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Why should you let the people of the Gospel judge with the Gospel?

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    Furqan
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    Salam brother Adam

    Where do I find this word "GOSPEL" in the Quran?

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      Adam_The_Warner
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      Salam brother Adam

      Where do I find this word "GOSPEL" in the Quran?

      Gospel is an English translation of the Arabic word "Injeel".

      So you find it in at least these verses 33, 348, 365, 546, 547, 566, 568, 5110, 7157, 9111, 4829, 5727,

      Amazing, there were 12 Apostles of Jesus, son of Mary, the Messiah. And if the search was done correct, there are 12 verses in the Quran which mention the Gospel by name.

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        Peace Adam
        The Torah and Gospel that GOD is implying in your verses are GOD s words only!!! i.e What GOD has revealed.

        GOD was asking the Jews and Christians to judge by " MA ANZALA ALLAH" -Only what GOD has revealed!!-.GOD chooses His words carefully.

        If they had writings containing men s words,then GOD was not asking them to judge by what they corrupted!!!

        GOD also sent Qoran at that time to be used as a reference

        549
        You shall rule among them in accordance with God's revelations to you. Do not follow their wishes, and beware lest they divert you from some of God's revelations to you. If they turn away, then know that God wills to punish them for some of their sins. Indeed, many people are wicked.

        GOD was simply saying to them follow GOD s words only, do not follow men s words.

        GOD was warning them about making up their own words/laws to follow/ judge by!

        550
        Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than God's for those who have attained certainty?

        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

        There is no verse in the Quran that said the Gospel contains something that isn't from God?

        But we read
        566

        An English translation of the Quran - 566 And if they had upheld the Torah and the Gospel, and what was sent down to them from their Lord, they would have been rewarded from above them and from beneath their feet. From among them is a pious nation, but most of them only do evil.

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          Yeah divide and conquer my friends

          I realized recently That Torah, Injeel and Quran are just like a Trilogy.

          All from the same source

          And interestingly enough all of the people who got a book from God, started to add humanly additions and thats when everything starts to go "DOWNHILL", so to speak.

          People had Torah, made Talmud. People had Injeel, added their own editions. People had Quran, made Hadith books.

          Yeah...

          And

          God knows the Best

          Yeah, you have seen that good.

          "added their own editions", you mean doctrines. Not editions, the Gospel is one of the most translated Books in the history of humanity.

          An translation is not a new edition.., it's a translation.

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            I apologize Adam for my lack of knowledge regarding the gospels. handshake

            May God forgive me.

            Is all of the new testament are the gospels or a part of it ?

            Peace

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              I apologize Adam for my lack of knowledge regarding the gospels. handshake

              May God forgive me.

              Is all of the new testament are the gospels or a part of it ?

              Peace

              An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 614 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

              Read further in an English translation https//www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NIV

              For the one in the original Greek language http//greekbible.com/index.php

              An English translation of the Gospel - James 519 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

              An English translation of the Gospel - Revelation 227 ?Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.?

              group

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                An English translation of the Quran - 547 And let the people of the Gospel judge with what God has sent down in it. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.

                "But how can I let the people of the Gospel judge with the Gospel? Because I do not believe there is a Gospel present with us on earth! So actually that does mean that God did send me a verse and asked me something that can't even be done."

                or

                "How can I let the people of the Gospel judge with the Gospel? Because the Gospel is corrupt! So actually that does mean that God tells us that we should let people judge with corruption!"

                Because human by default are

                1. Cultural / traditional narcissist...
                  My traditions / culture / idols / deities / heroes / holy book are superior than others.

                2. Cultural / traditional psychopath..
                  They lack the empathy and sympathy towards culture / traditions / religion different than they are..

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                  Because human by default are

                  1. Cultural / traditional narcissist...
                    My traditions / culture / idols / deities / heroes / holy book are superior than others.

                  2. Cultural / traditional psychopath..
                    They lack the empathy and sympathy towards culture / traditions / religion different than they are..

                  Your opinion about human beings doesn't change the letters in the Gospel right?

                  Especially when we read this

                  An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 518 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

                  And the Law was granted to Moses, and you probably don't want to guess how much centuries there were between the Gospel and the Law.

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                    Your opinion about human beings doesn't change the letters in the Gospel right?

                    It's a statement of fact and explain on why idolator idolize their respective idols..

                    An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 518 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

                    And the Law was granted to Moses, and you probably don't want to guess how much centuries there were between the Gospel and the Law.

                    Verliy I tell you, the letters on the books inside the Tanakh, Gospel and Quran has changed many times...

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                      How do we know that By Toarat and Injeel Allah means the Torah and Gospel/Bible?

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                        It's a statement of fact and explain on why idolator idolize their respective idols..

                        Verliy I tell you, the letters on the books inside the Tanakh, Gospel and Quran has changed many times...

                        An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 518 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

                        An English translation of the Quran - 159 Indeed it is We who have sent down the Reminder, and indeed it is We who will preserve it.

                        An English translation of the Quran - 4142 No falsehood could enter it, presently or afterwards; a revelation from One Most Wise, Praiseworthy.

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                          How do we know that By Toarat and Injeel Allah means the Torah and Gospel/Bible?

                          An English translation of the Quran - 7157 "Those who follow the Gentile messenger prophet whom they find written for them in the Torah and the Gospel; he orders them to kindness, and prohibits them from vice, and he makes lawful for them the good things, and he makes unlawful for them the evil things, and he removes their burden and the shackles that are upon them. So those who believe in him, and support him, and help him persevere, and follow the light that was sent down with him; these are the successful ones."

                          An English translation of the Quran - 9111 God has purchased from the believers their very lives and their wealth, that they will have the Paradise; they fight in the cause of God so they kill and are killed; a promise that is true upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And whoever fulfills this pledge with God, then have good news of the pledge which you are concluded with. Such is the great triumph.

                          An English translation of the Quran - 4829 Mohammed is the messenger of God, and those who are with him are severe against the rejecters, but merciful between themselves. You see them kneeling and prostrating, they seek the blessings and approval of God. Their distinction is in their faces, as a result of prostrating. Such is their example in the Torah. And their example in the Gospel is like a plant which shoots out and becomes strong and thick and it stands straight on its trunk, pleasing to the farmers. That He may enrage the rejecters with them. God promises those among them who believe and do good works a forgiveness and a great reward.

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                            Furqan
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                            You have no proof!

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                              Adam_The_Warner
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                              You have no proof!

                              You do a very good job in rejecting all those quranic and evangelical verses! I did not see one verse of the Quran or the Gospel in your posts in this thread.

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                                Furqan
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                                Salam Adam

                                Brother all I am pointing out is that traditions/hadeeth/hearsay tell us that Injeel=bible and Taurat=Torah

                                Q625 The example of those who are/were entrusted with the TAURAT and then did not carry/take it on is like that of a donkey who carries Load journeying/traveling . Wretched is the example of the people who deny the signs of Allah. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

                                Quotes from Quran in partIn Taurat is Hukm/government of Allah....
                                We did not give them books which they study......
                                638 We have not neglected anything in al-Kitab
                                1712 We have DETAILED the DETAIL!!!

                                If you one is honestly search of the truth and calls out to his/her lord sincerely
                                Q2186 And when My servants ask you, concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me that they may be guided.

                                ONLY Al-Hakeem/The Wise can provide HUDAN

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                                  An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 518 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

                                  Jesus refers to the 'Ten Commandments'. He means that it is still the same kind of things to refrain from until the end of time.

                                  Jesus clarified that nothing will be removed, but he elaborated on the very same law, gave valuable insight. It is the underlying drive to trespass on the commandments which is the interesting part rather than the law being a sterile law. Jesus said for example that "... I tell you that if you even look upon a woman with desire you have committed adultery in your mind". Each time you get aroused by the looks of a woman or man it is adultery. It is the instinctive call that been triggered.

                                  Such was his purpose, even the word Enjeel could be interpreted as elaboration.

                                  At his time it was wise to figure out what he was getting at. Now you get it explained thoroughly.

                                  Be well
                                  Amenuel

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