Flood in time of Nooh a.s.

hansolo

The whole world is trying to hide the Truth. The existence of A Creator

hansolo

The Holy Quran in Sura Al Mulk ( Chapter 67 Verse#3) says

"Who has created the seven heavens one above another, you can see no fault in the creations of the Most Beneficent. Then look again ?Can you see any cracks ??

hansolo

This is definition of the word Crack

To break something so that it does not separate, but very thin lines appear on its surface, or to become broken in this way

A stone hit the window and cracked the glass.
I cracked my tooth as I fell.
The walls cracked and the roof collapsed in the earthquake.

For Oder for something to crack it needs to be solid, period.

Now does it fit with What we've been told? Hmm...

Aladin_from_Azra_tribe

And yes as my differential equations professor once said
"if you never ask stupid questions you'll never get over being stupid!"

Is he referring to some ayat, do you?
Avoiding to answer questions won't make them stupid. But, I don't need your answers, I asked because of you, but if you don't care I won't care either. I'm just a warner.
I can't make a tunnel into to Earth, I can't go upto stairs into to Sky to find some ayat besides Allah's to prove you obvious (haqq) from Him.
If you're rejecting to think, sorry.

Allah's bless and selam.

Cerberus

brother develop what? cant you see quran is saying earth is flat hadith is saying earth is flat, christian bible is also saying same thing...

before that guy galileo introduces it was a theory but after moon landing and space missions the scientist and all other people prove it round infront of you.. becoz nasa is illuminati hence its proved earth is flat and its big lie

so all the things that are orbiting the earth are lies becoz its impossible for anything to orbit earth... tempt

cant you see quran is saying
No I can't see it. That is your interpretation of it. As I have mine. Your interpretation is based on your pseudo-scientifical ideas. How do you expect someone to read the Quranic verses related to earth the right way if his ideas about it are all pseudo-scientifical ? (this is not a question) The final interpretation of those specific verses will be pseudo-scientifical, obviously.

becoz nasa is illuminati
Oh and what is illuminati ? Such statement isn't from the Quran (obviously), this is the pseudo-scientifical ideas that reflect on your judgement and interpretations.
Also, you obviously ignore that Nasa is not the only agency that has a space program...Europe, China, Russia....

becoz its impossible for anything to orbit earth

Assuming that you won't believe what you don't see, It can still be demonstrated using physics and mathematics. Show me the anti-physics and anti-mathematics theories that you used to get to that conclusion.

hahahahaha interesting , really show us some more pictures its quite interesting

Enjoying the picture huh?.. Yeah show him some more pictures that feed his views. Because I'm sure the pictures are very truthful and one can easily extract so many factual information from them....

thats why difficult things called rocket science hmm

Difficult things ? You mean things you completely ignore and you decided to ignore and rather chose to read on some conspiracy theory blog....Yeah they might seem difficult to YOU.

Here you go, study in this website, start from the basics

http//speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/earth.htm

Do not attempt to skip to intermediate/advanced/physics/cosmology sections. They study the Quran in a very scientific way using actual science (things you might consider "difficult&quot, in topics such as "speed of light", dark matter, wormholes, Relativity of time, pulsars and black holes etc.

(Just to give you a different perspective, I do not expect to shift your view or guide you to the straight path...)

Aladin_from_Azra_tribe

Cerberus, when Moosa a.s. was asked if he's making fun on people he prayed to Allah swt not to make him amongs jahiloon. This guy is joking on people and that's why I recognized him as amongs jahiloon.
What you marked as red and not bold is the truth.

Allah's bless and selam.

Wakas

I asked one of main proponents of flat earth on this forum some simple questions, he fell silent
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607515.msg368023#msg368023

In any case, why dont all the flat earth people get together and come up with the strongest possible Quran article that they can showing it says the earth is flat. I will be happy to review it if you do.

imrankhawaja

brother you open my eyes thanx for it...

by the way i was just telling you the claims of jahiloon = flat earth beleivers .. those posts are mine but its the claims of jahiloon...

Cerberus,

This guy is joking on people and that's why I recognized him as amongs jahiloon.

@ cerberus

now look at this person who is not among jahiloon but his words making him the highest level of jahiloon...

while i ask him questions instead of giving the answers he start doing personal attacks,,

and he forget the forum rules
and he forget the manners
and he forget the verses of quran(even i make him remeber too)

so his words showing him jahiloon= mannerless= narrow minded+ conspricy therorist..(i dont wish anytime to personaly attack somebody but sometimes its difficult to ignore jahiloon specially when they invite somebody to show them mirror)

i still feel sympathy for him... i would like him to answer the questions of wakas if he really beleive in himself not among of those above .. see how generous i am .. -\

even i asked the same questions from experts times to time and everytime they run away like zebras rotfl rotfl

imrankhawaja

I asked one of main proponents of flat earth on this forum some simple questions, he fell silent
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607515.msg368023#msg368023

In any case, why dont all the flat earth people get together and come up with the strongest possible Quran article that they can showing it says the earth is flat. I will be happy to review it if you do.

RED

its not really possible becoz , i think they need to learn lot of things and on the basis of proven facts its impossible for them to do it.. so thats why pazazu also fell silent ..

even quran never claimed it .. it show how much attention they are paying while understanding the verses..

example is like this

2+ 2= 4
2+2 = char

quran is saying 2+2= 4 is a lie becoz its char

now when they will discover char = 4 also , then may be they understand how things work...

let see how much more time they need to understand this logic.. hmm

imrankhawaja

i remember an interesting post of jaffar regarding all this...

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607515.msg368116#msg368116

it was funny though yay

Aladin_from_Azra_tribe

I asked one of main proponents of flat earth on this forum some simple questions, he fell silent
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607515.msg368023#msg368023

In any case, why dont all the flat earth people get together and come up with the strongest possible Quran article that they can showing it says the earth is flat. I will be happy to review it if you do.

Wakas, I know that the Earth is flat, so I'm probably amongs the people you mentioned. I can't and nobody of them can and nobody of all other people and jinn can explain one single harf from the Qur'an to you and to nobody else. If knowledge you're getting is constant and is truth then stick to it and leave others to believe what they won't, but if this is not the case then you should think why you're getting the false knowledge and why you're not getting the knowledge. This should be for all of us.

In any case, I'll answer to 4 questions you left on that post, but I can't read it, because I don't see anything useful in discussing about false informations.

What is shape of anything?
What is straight line? What is travelling?
Is motion of the Sun "trail" of its fulk?
The Sun is too far away to be visible or the Sun is near so it's visible constantly during some periods of year in some parts of the Earth. The Sun light is finite as most of the light we can see, but not all.

Allah's bless and selam.

imrankhawaja

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Wakas

What is shape of anything?
What is straight line? What is travelling?
Is motion of the Sun "trail" of its fulk?
The Sun is too far away to be visible or the Sun is near so it's visible constantly during some periods of year in some parts of the Earth. The Sun light is finite as most of the light we can see, but not all.

The above is possibly the poorest answer I've ever read on the forum. In any case, you disproved yourself by attempting to answer (4) because when the sun is not visible at the pole it is present elsewhere on earth meaning it cannot be too far away. I'm not interested in reading any more of your nonsense regarding this issue.

Aladin_from_Azra_tribe

What you assumed is that the sunlight has no reach, it can travel forever. And, indeed, there's some light which is present everywhere. The light is not travelling and the light has its reach, except noor Which is (from) Allah.
Even many of flatearthers have belief same as this (about unlimited sunlight travel), which is a proof against them.

Anyways, if you try to calculate the distance to the Sun you can be surprised with the result you can get. Since, I can't accept data from bogus sciences I can't use them as any proof, but I recently calculated the distance between capital of my country Belgrade (which is on near 45 degrees north) and the Sun during equinoxes. I got around 13.000 km as a result, for the Sun at 69 degrees on the noon and 4988 km distance from Belgrade to Equator. But, you can use any data you like for any place on the Earth and do calculations then we can discuss about the distance between the Sun and the Earth, no matter what we claim about its shape. Otherwise, our discussion wouldn't be with ma'roof.

I wasn't joking for the answers for your questions 1-3, I just wanted you to be sure that you understand your questions. When I discarded all but the knowledge I understood from Allah's Qawl, I discarded defitions I used before, so I won't comment definitions as "shape", "straight line", and so on, unless I'm sure that I'm talking with the person with same or similar understanding of these. Otherwise, if we're talking what we don't know and if we're using names which can't be attached to anything real we'll be amongs jahiloon.

What I've found interesting for your 4th question is the story about "full night". There's no "full night" anywhere on the Earth and this creates confusion to most of the people when they read about it. The confusion is due to our understanding the terms "day" and "night". Most of us think that "day" and "night" are products of the sunlight, but that's not the case. If we "read" the Qur'an (or People of Kitab their books) we can most certainly recognize that the night, the day, the Sun and the Moon has their own "fulk", and we'll see that the Sun is ayat of the day, and the Moon is the ayat of the night, and that Allah swt created

night
day
the Sun
the Moon.
So, we're forgetting that the day exists independant of the Sun, and the night also. When the people in northern Norway, for example, see some light during the winter, during "full night" time, it's not the sunlight, it's daylight. This is happening every day, because every day is daytime + nighttime.
Forgetting about the day and the night are Allah's swt creations leads many of us to be jahiloon for our fasting, people don't know time for their fast. It's interesting also that the words for "day" and "river" are very similar.

I'm really sorry, my intention was not to offend you nor to make fun on you. This is a very serious topic and we should talk only what we're sure in. Allah swt asked from us many times to think about what we see in the Sky and on the Earth.

Allah's bless and selam.

good_logic

Peace Aladin.

Are you going against Qoran here, quote

So, we're forgetting that the day exists independant of the Sun, and the night also

The sun has everything to do with night and day
911
By the sun and its brightness.

912
The moon that follows it.

913
The day that reveals it.

914
The night that covers it.

Qoran is clearly saying the sun defines/makes... day and night!

GOD bless you.
Peace.

imrankhawaja

peace GL,

let assume for a second earth is flat ,

ok i have another question the distance between north america(alaska) and russia is about 53 miles and there are some small islands between them which make the distance between these two nations approx 4 km .. is it possible on flat earth ?

flat earther can only fit one theory .. russia is a country that flow to europe from west and europe flows to america to west... and america flows to russia to west ... west =west=west you are on the same point ... its mean it cannot possibly flat ..

aww i forget may b there is a icewall in these 4 km which make it impossible for us to travel through that zone hmm

Aladin_from_Azra_tribe

Peace Aladin.

Are you going against Qoran here, quote

So, we're forgetting that the day exists independant of the Sun, and the night also

The sun has everything to do with night and day
911
By the sun and its brightness.

912
The moon that follows it.

913
The day that reveals it.

914
The night that covers it.

Qoran is clearly saying the sun defines/makes... day and night!

GOD bless you.
Peace.

My dear brother, as you know for sure, the word used is "jellaha" and, as you know, it doesn't mean "defines" nor "makes". It can mean "reveals", as in translation you used.
So, no, I'm not going against the Qur'an when I say that the day doesn't depend of the Sun. Daylight is not from the sunlight. I told about a few ayats you can think, if you want...

Allah's bless and selam.

Aladin_from_Azra_tribe

Btw, good logic, it is said that the day "jellaha" the Sun, not opposite, if you misunderstood it.
So, the Sun is "jellaha" during the day(time), which can also be the proof that the Sun's fulk is within day's fulk (which is), as the Moon's fulk is within night's fulk. This is why they're (the Sun and the Moon) ayats of the day and the night. So, when we see the Sun we know for sure that it's daytime, and when we see the Moon is the night for sure.

This is good information to know, because, as I said, many people don't know how much they should fast, even Allah swt told us. We should fast till the night... and we don't know how to recognize it, because we're confused with the Sun (which is not mentioned in ayat about the fasting time). Anyways, maybe this can help.

Allah's bless and selam.

imrankhawaja

Good logic ,

look what i found for you,

daytime moon, morning time moon , and so on...

http//earthsky.org/space/when-can-you-see-a-daytime-moon

good_logic

Peace Aladin.

Brother, the sun and its "Brightness". The sun s brightness reveals the day!!!!

Yu are complicating things. It is so simple

1- When the sun is above the horizon ,it is day.
2- When the sun is below the horizon( covered) it is night.

A clear definition from Qoran.

Other than that, I do not understand what you mean by "opposite"?If you mean the day exist without the sun ,then you must be living in a different universe/system than us!
GOD bless you.
Peace.