Gabriel's self map
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There seems to be a latency of 1000 years for things to reach God sitting on a throne in Heaven.. according to the so called "Holy Books"...
So what's this need for travel and latency communication?
It's not about latency or ping time e.g. London to Tokyo 220 ms or 40 min for signal to reach Mars rover and back to earth; rather verses are about the perception/relativity of time...
701 asked questioner in punishment and real 702 for the skeptics not is for it any preventer 703 from the god owner the stairways 704 ascends the angels and the spirit toward him in day/epoch be measure its fifty thousand sanatin 705 so be patient patience of beautiful of 706 surely they see it far 707 and we see it near of
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Is not the sectarian interpretation of Quran wonderful? The god seems to have a location somewhere. Well, the same god is emotional and has typical worldly human characteristics.
your interpretation is more wonderful than secterians...
haram = blessed
hereafter = incranation = second third fourth birth...
God = vibrating strings = portion / share of creation
jinn and devils = human...and lot more wonders of your interpretation... bravo
RED exactly its only you who see in that way... everybody very well aware that God do not have any human characteristics
its only you who want to see God in human way.... aww i forget you see God already it must b a convo between you and God to tell people that quran is false now new prophet ammanuel is on earth ... hmm
NOTE do you have anything in all your posting that will help community to learn something productive apart from attacking quran all the times... you almost ruined all the threads... by you faulty interpretation...
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There seems to be a latency of 1000 years for things to reach God sitting on a throne in Heaven.. according to the so called "Holy Books"...
where its written in any holy book that God is sitting in throne... ? do you really grasp what is the throne ..?
apart from this we may have debate on the verses that you just posted... everybody understandings are different ..
the throne is a supreme control of affairs of human kind what you can say an office of human files which is metaphorically calculated as the time which is out of our perception... if somebody really ponder about these verses then it give them more accurate understanding that time is relative ...
why you guys think that there is any mistake in the verses which you guys dnt have knowledge off...?
can you calculate the speed of angels ? do you know what is throne(supreme authority of God controlling) ? when you able to understand it literally then point out the mistakes literally... i think so ... but every body have their own way ... of getting things ...
and yeh according to holy book God is everywhere .. i see you forget to mention those verses...
and again everywhere mean , control everywhere, see everywhere, hear everywhere... -
as far some nice debate here is the verse in which we need to ponder very carefully what does it mean... @ brother jaffar..
6917 And the angels will be on its borders; and the Throne of your Lord will be carried, above them on that Day, by eight
when somebody read this ,the first impression comes in the mind that God will be there on this throne which is carried by eight angels...
but that understanding is making God limited in space...
so we have to look it again... then we may understand verse is not saying eight angels are holding God.... its infact a throne that they are holding...
and throne may be an office or a supreme authroity of controlling affairs which will be carried by angels .. that will bring out everthing .. or may b a court system like cabins who really know ...
so if we go to second option that sounds better.. i was also confused about couple of years ago when somebody told me that on the day of jdgement eight angels will carry the God ... but when i carefully look it i find it many ways to understand it...
hope anybody else got some more understanding regarding this...
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Peace Imran.
I favour this translation of 6917
And the angels will be all around,and the dominion of your Lord will be/become eight(Universes)As you know GOD has created 7 universes 7143,on the day of judgement an eight universe will be created, it will be called hell 8923. A universe even further away than our earth is from the seventh universe, for those who do not wish to be closer to the Lord.
GOD bless you.
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peace GL
yes you can say that ,
its also interesting understanding...
God bless you
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where its written in any holy book that God is sitting in throne... ? do you really grasp what is the throne ..?
apart from this we may have debate on the verses that you just posted... everybody understandings are different ..
the throne is a supreme control of affairs of human kind what you can say an office of human files which is metaphorically calculated as the time which is out of our perception... if somebody really ponder about these verses then it give them more accurate understanding that time is relative ...
why you guys think that there is any mistake in the verses which you guys dnt have knowledge off...?
can you calculate the speed of angels ? do you know what is throne(supreme authority of God controlling) ? when you able to understand it literally then point out the mistakes literally... i think so ... but every body have their own way ... of getting things ...
and yeh according to holy book God is everywhere .. i see you forget to mention those verses...
and again everywhere mean , control everywhere, see everywhere, hear everywhere...Quran, as it is interpreted by sectarians.
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Quran, as it is interpreted by sectarians.
help me find it , i did not find something like that in last 18 years of reading , may b i miss something so give the reference...
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Hi all,
Because I am the topic starter , I'll try to elaborate what I meant by Gabriel's self-map (and how it works). I was wrong to think that someone would recognize it right away just by the words "Gabriel's self- map".The baby (or human-like form) on the map represents Gabriel's or Shiva's body. Now when he (Gabriel/Shiva) touches a certain part of his body (say his knees), something happens in the location where his knees are located on the map. This could be anything , from earthquakes to wars or something else (Being the creator/destroyer that he is , it would make sense). Remember what he did to Lots people. If I'm not mistaken , that's in the Quran as well.
That's why it's called the self-map, because if other people would touch him , other rules apply. I hope I clarified myself a bit.
Anyway, thanks for reading this,
Henri -
Remember what he did to Lots people. If I'm not mistaken , that's in the Quran as well.
GABI did not do anything with them.. its was God ..
whenever any leaf fall on ground God is aware about it ... God is fully aware fully knowledgeable ...
everything whatever happen on anywhere in this space and time is in the controlling/malkiat of God..
peace
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There seems to be a latency of 1000 years for things to reach God sitting on a throne in Heaven.. according to the so called "Holy Books"...
There seems also to be a necessity to pick cherry and use 1000 years old understandings to show to the world how ridiculous "holy books" are.
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There seems also to be a necessity to pick cherry and use 1000 years old understandings to show to the world how ridiculous "holy books" are.
some people pick cheeries which are already corrupted by farmers i mean useless cherries ...
some of them pick cheeries but they dnt know the difference between cheery and apple...
some of them pick cheeries but they think they pick grapes becoz they are color blind 2 7
some people pick cheery and eat it and enjoyed it but still unappreciative becoz they are hypocrate farmers/kaffirs lol...
there are different flavors of farmers in the start of second chapter...
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There seems also to be a necessity to pick cherry and use 1000 years old understandings to show to the world how ridiculous "holy books" are.
Yet you people tend to defend such understandings.
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Yet you people tend to defend such understandings.
To what kind of people do I belong? And what understanding do I have regarding these verses?
I have on this forum already more than 2000 posts, if you have any feedback, comments, objections, whatever for me then please quote it maybe I will learn something better or new from you.
If you don't have any except comments like this then I suggest you to go back to your ancient lexicons, baseless hadiths and your "is who is" stuff. -
i am who i am , o
i m not who i am confused
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I'll try to elaborate what I meant by Gabriel's self-map (and how it works).
Well, if you find it, let us know here. I'm curious.
"is who is" stuff.
Is you is?
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God said i am who i am
moses also said i am who i amautomatically mean human being is a seed of God and a portion/share/piece of God...
becoz both said i am who i am
this is very deep saying only insightful person can understand this thing...
the type/kind of insightful person must be one in trillions who can understand this very simple logic... otherwise all life is like a farm or pet like slaves ... there is no meanings of life if you are not what you are
awake up guys...
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And I also say I am, and so did Jesus. It is not so hard to understand the expression if one cares to apply the mental power. We are Who Are. And to be is to be being.
Be well
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Peace SC.
i have not heard of Gabriel s self map either??Who Do You Say I Am??
Karl Barth, Paul Tillich, Reinhold Niebuhr, and James Cone find themselves all at the same time at Caesarea Philippi. Who should come along but Jesus, and he asks the four famous theologians the same Christological question, ?Who do you say that I am??Karl Barth stands up and says ?You are the totaliter aliter, the vestigious trinitatum who speaks to us in the modality of Christo-monism.?
Not prepared for Barth's brevity, Paul Tillich stumbles out ?You are he who heals our ambiguities and overcomes the split of angst and existential estrangement; you are he who speaks of the theonomous viewpoint of the analogia entis, the analogy of our being and the ground of all possibilities.?
Reinhold Niebuhr gives a cough for effect and says, in one breath ?You are the impossible possibility who brings to us, your children of light and children of darkness, the overwhelming oughtness in the midst of our fraught condition of estrangement and brokenness in the contiguity and existential anxieties of our ontological relationships.?
Finally James Cone gets up, and raises his voice ?You are my Oppressed One, my soul's shalom, the One who was, who is, and who shall be, who has never left us alone in the struggle, the event of liberation in the lives of the oppressed struggling for freedom, and whose blackness is both literal and symbolic.?
And Jesus writes in the sand, ?Huh??
GOD bless you.
Peace.