interesting question if somebody can understand ...
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i have a question although i know my answer .. its an interesting discussion what i m bringing up here for you guys...
i think i discover something new in my understanding...
if i ask you is there is anything that is not the property of God? what probably your answer would be...
as we know and beleive everything in this universe and beyond this universe belong to God... 2 /255
like property, money, anything including ourselves like our body /spirit /rooh everything he owns it he generated it . so by default he is the owner of mankind... and everything that we see...
1141 Say, "I seek refuge with the Lord of Mankind
1142 The King/soverign/owner of mankind.
1143 The God of mankind.so is there is anything that did not belong to God?
looking forward to see your answers brothers and sisters...
peace
and God bless you all -
i have a question although i know my answer .. its an interesting discussion what i m bringing up here for you guys...
i think i discover something new in my understanding...
if i ask you is there is anything that is not the property of God? what probably your answer would be...
as we know and beleive everything in this universe and beyond this universe belong to God... 2 /255
like property, money, anything including ourselves like our body /spirit /rooh everything he owns it he generated it . so by default he is the owner of mankind... and everything that we see...
1141 Say, "I seek refuge with the Lord of Mankind
1142 The King/soverign/owner of mankind.
1143 The God of mankind.so is there is anything that did not belong to God?
looking forward to see your answers brothers and sisters...
peace
and God bless you allAn English translation of the Quran - 383 Is it other than the system of God that they desire, when those in the heavens and the earth have submitted to Him voluntarily or by force? And to Him they will be returned.
Everything submits to Him, be it voluntarily or by force.
Perfect example
An English translation of Job - 18 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
For those that are going to ask "why do you quote from the Bible" An English translation of the Quran - 4163 We have inspired you as We had inspired Noah and the prophets after him. And We had inspired Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and Jesus, and Job, and Jonah, and Aaron, and Solomon; and We gave David the Psalms.
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brother adam
peaceits offtopic
you can please see the question again.. what actually i ask...
thanx
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i will continue my thread after getting some replies from members ,
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Peace all,
It's an intriguing question. I also think it's a complicated question.
Everything ultimately does belong to Him. But then we have to think about human accomplishments and inventions that we have brought about ourselves. Such as money, coins, dollars, currency, etc., as you mentioned. Humankind created this. God did not. Money is not a natural creation. So then is money ours, a human invention, and something that we earn individually through jobs and careers, or is money His? I think this is where we have to classify the invention itself. Is the invention in question an extension of ourselves? Does it help us progress in a worldly way, a mental/personality way, or in a spiritual way? Does it not?
If it doesn't help us progress, I would say God is "neutral." The way we are using it is not His way. This is not the same as saying the particular use of the invention is bad, no. But we're not using it for Him, or to promote or bring about the good of what he has intended for the people and creatures of the world. So the invention is ours - something we invented or earned - and therefore we are free to do with it as we please. It is not His as He has no part in the way we're using it.
We all have our own gifts, talents, aspirations, hobbies, etc. We are all ourselves and we also all His, or at least we should be both of these things. Can we use money and other inventions to further ourselves? Can we use money to get closer to God? To strive in His cause? To continue this example of money, I would say money is ours - completely, at all times - but it is also His in the good ways that we use it. Something belonging to Him doesn't mean, in this case, that something is being taken away from us. No; in this scenario, the fact is simply that our cause is His cause, and His cause is our cause. One and the same. So when using money to better oneself or one's community, it is both ours and His.
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But then we have to think about human accomplishments and inventions that we have brought about ourselves. Such as money, coins, dollars, currency, etc., as you mentioned. Humankind created this. God did not. Money is not a natural creation. So then is money ours, a human invention, and something that we earn individually through jobs and careers, or is money His? I think this is where we have to classify the invention itself. Is the invention in question an extension of ourselves? Does it help us progress in a worldly way, a mental/personality way, or in a spiritual way? Does it not?
Even inventions have been inspired by Him, so in last instance they belong to Him...
Also He has created even "the bad among His creation". He gave us free will so it is His in last instance... Talents and everything we are the same... That is why I am so curious to see what people will say, and now after that "is totally yours" of Imran, I am even more curious! confused
about deeds it is the same, it is all the time a tautology, a circular reasoning, God gives characters, talents, good/bad heart, so it is from God, and so He knows what we will do with it so ultimately it is His! Actually He will ask us the Last Day what we did with everything He gave us....
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Peace all,
Everything ultimately does belong to Him. But then we have to think about human accomplishments and inventions that we have brought about ourselves. Such as money, coins, dollars, currency, etc., as you mentioned. Humankind created this. God did not. Money is not a natural creation. So then is money ours, a human invention, and something that we earn individually through jobs and careers, or is money His? I think this is where we have to classify the invention itself. Is the invention in question an extension of ourselves? Does it help us progress in a worldly way, a mental/personality way, or in a spiritual way? Does it not?
Allah takes credit for all inventions as it is He who teaches us
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Read! Your Lord is the Most Bountiful One, who taught by the pen, taught man what he did not know. -
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welcome back brothers and sisters...
your love for God is your property and thats an incredible property...
when u experience this u feel unlimited relaxation/peace of heart..2165 And from among the people are some who take other than God as equals to Him, they love them as they love God; but those who believe love God more strongly; and when those who were wicked see the retribution, they will see that all power belongs to God, and that God is severe in retribution.
but for getting the love of God too some key people are mention here by their actions...
And Allah loves the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
and Allah loves the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
Indeed, Allah loves the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
and Allah loves those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly (60 / muqsiteensolomon the lover of God once immersed in entertainment suddenly he realise he even forget the zikar(remembring) of God... and we in our daily life are engagged in different type of entertainment like mobile ,matches, hanging out, partying, and sometimes totally lost the remembrance of God.. while we are busy.. and if something bad happen to our mobile or any stuff of entertainment we get worried ... (
3832 He said, "I love the good of materials more than I enjoyed remembering my Lord"
the real love achieved by real emotions specially when the love belong to the being who is fully aware of whatever is in our chests...
claiming that loving God and doing things which is not recommended by God is a fake love .. which will not give us anything ... specially the peace of heart..
the example of God love is like a sweetdish/dessert after a meal...
let say i eat and i get full after my meal and someone ask me for sweetdish and i say yeh definately .. that portion of sweetdish is always empty in our stomach even if we are full...
the love of God is also that important ..like a sweetdish... a satisfaction.. peace and combination of relaxation that no money or material things can ever give you...
i always want to love my God untill the end of my life .. as i know when i will die my body my name my properties will no more mine ... even my soul/charatcer/spirit will lock in the gravity of a barrier disconnect from world.. the thing that is mine and will be mine is my love of God... i didnt want to lose that property of mine at any cost... even if i have millions life to sacrifice ..
i love you my lord.. from the core of my heart ...
God bless you all
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Salam Imran, referring to your answer, why is 'love for God' not the property of God?
you are the owner of that love(feeling).. so its belong to you
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you are the owner of that love(feeling).. so its belong to you
Even though we understand what you are trying to say, you should be more elaborate in your explanation
because I am the owner of my deeds, I commit them.
And I am owner of my burdens.
Allah may choose to pardon some or blot out all, but they are still my deeds...