Homosexuality LGBTQI and the deen
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Bold @Bender
very pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaase, oh drunken master ;D
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No, they are absolutely in relation since they postulate which relationships are lawful.
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b)What here?
a) Is Quran addressed only to men here too?
b) Did God forget to give women the right to choose their partners and if they want to be believers or rejecters? Do women belong to their fathers until they belong to their husbands?
c) Did God made a mistake in the plural masculine on b)?
d) Is there not an Arabic plural feminine ending for verbs that God forgot to use on b)?
e) Is God allowing men to marry another man or is God just giving men the right to give their daughters to whom they want or they want not? I want that Quran for ladies! >( Where is it that Quran where women, along with obligations, have rights too? giveup
f) So there are 2 optinos here God is fine with the homo situation or He is a sexists? giveup
g) Maybe we can think a bit more considering that the very same verse ends up with ?He clarifies His revelations for the people that they may remember?... or are "people" again only men?2432
And marry the single (MASCULINE PLURAL) among you (MASCULINE PLURAL)
And the good from among your MALE servants and your FEMALE servants.
a) to whom is addressed this verse now? Men or women or everybody?
b) Why did God reveal the Quran in Arabic? He could have used Japanese which has a pronoun for every category and genre so we would always know who is being addressed giveup I am sure a nihonjin prophet-san would be much cooler brickwallI never said is stated clearly anything. As I don?t see clearly stated that homosexual marriage is allowed, I don?t see its prohibition. So when there is not a clear prohibition or permission, just use common sense and don?t condemn anyone without being sure 100%, that is all I know.
My point of view is veeeeeeeeeeery simple We are all more concerned about homosexuality than God is. If it were important we would have it written down this simple ?People, it is allowed? or ?people, it is not allowed?.
Let?s be concerned about evil, about oppression, about wars and the plutocratic word we live in and leave homosexual people to live their lives and believe in God and make good and develop themselves as human beings and God?s creatures. Because, really, a sincere, kind and discreet homo couple (as a hetero one) is not giving me the impression the world is all sin and sodomy.
Salam peace
Postscript If someone finds that Quran for ladies, please let me know yay
It is of no use to a looooooooot of people, because a lot of people al ready decided what they want to read.
I dunno why but I like this verse a lot 2052 -
- You (men and women -) don't marry FM polytheist ..... even if she - pleases you (men and women -*)
- You (men and women -) don't marry M polytheist.... even if he pleases you (men and women -)
I don't have any problem, I thought you had.
So homosexual marriage is perfectly allowed yaynice presentation )
but your logic is wrong because
A=B
B/D=Z
FD=DR
With other words homosexuals are forbidden by God.
Now I have a question for you, tell me how will you feel if you were a fish who had a son and that son was a lion and the lion raped a tree? -
if its based on jealousy then i have no cure for it... elektro
yes there is a name of women in quran (mary) probably the only women name in whole scripture why only one
God knows...best..another thing .. once there was a debate between sister huruf regarding giver and taker ... rotfl
man is giver women is taker... sister huruf was arguing with us why man is giver .. its woman who gives.. does it really make women giver , as we know the ignition call the starting point.. switching off the ignition is the ending point... ending and starting cannot be same likewise giver and taker cannot be same...
its better if u take this female stuff outside ... if somebody have problems with the injustice i mean the injustice according to secterian lens of women then they are wrong.. i did not see God is degerading any women in quran... but its a fact too that man lead the family its God who make man a leader of the family ... if somebody want to go againsst laws of God i have no comments for them instead of symppathy...
why God made man a leader of family its another question.. if i will go into details most of the women will not get it as its a natural attitutde of human they will not accpet the truth even they know it..
example
i say male and female are both humans so both deserve respect
make and female are humans they are same but not identical becoz the physical strenght of male is more than female
here some females start arguing on it.. as they will think we are considering them as weak...instead of thinking positively most of them think negetively... its a part of human nature so i most of the times avoid discussing these issues...
but again with the fact , i still feel a kid loves his mother more than his father...
why becoz naturally mother loves his kid more than father... ?
father must not have issue with this thing becoz its truth...
same womens must have not any issue with leadership or strenght if its truth...hope you got and sorry for offtopic
?Were you attempting to make the best collection ever of steretypes and common places?
There is one thing women are givers by nature, men are not givers by nature, men are givers when they do give and those who do give are not by far all men but might be even not many men.
And kid do not love more their mother than their father, love ore the one who makes him or herself most worthy of love to that kid. As simple as that.
But it is ever so comfortble to look for one's comfort and then believe "becuse it is a fact" that mothers love the children more than the fathers".
No, there are fathers who love their children more than their mothers, they may not be a an statistical majority, but they exist and saying that satistical lie is an excuse to be louse lovers of the own children because it is easier to love one's own comfort than the children and since thi?eir mother is there for that, let her suffer for it no I.
As simple as that. The goodness of women is used as an alibi of those men who do not want to take up their responsibilities nor run the risk of loving their children beyond their own comfort.
Real good men do try and believe that they should love their children to their utmost capacity without regard for their own comfort, n do not delegate love on the mothers. The mothers give their own and them their own.
Givers are those who give, not those who are supposed to give. Those who are supposed to give and don't give are hypocrites liars and exploiters.
Salaam
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When one reads some ideas and "facts" (facts being the word some people use to put forward their own conceptions and views), one does not wonder why thhere should be "homosexuals" and other things, because with the ideas and "facts" that are around concerning the sexes, their characteristics and their functions, any normal hinking person would go nuts if those ideas nd "facts" influenced him or her minimally. Lies cannot giver rise to any healthy world, because while even handing condemnation to "homosexual" the fact is that "heterosexuality" is teeming with vice and traumas and all imaginable filth.
Something stinks in the kingdom of Denmark and nobody wants to know what it is. Ir the elephant in the room.
The lack of honesty and excess of delusion in the whole sex question is stinking. If anybody still remains pure must be a miracle.
Salaam
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I do not know why anybody still bothers to indulge talking to those peoples. If once they do no take any notice of what is explained to them, it is a waste of time to even bother taking any further notice of such contrived stupidity. For them a condition for being muslim is to be thouroughly stupid and brainless. Ignore them is the most charitable attitude towards and specially towards oneself.
I agree except I would not say "contrived stupidity" but a "conclusion
based on non-evidence". However I do get your point! The truth must be found
in Quran Al Kareem and not from opinions, or we will be like those who perverted the
scripture through their interpretations. I am stillwaiting for someone to prove
via Quran that there are to be no homosexual relations!https//img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-08/3/8/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-3377-1438606615-1.jpg
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Only men because there is not a Ladies Quran, don't you get it, Huruf? >
- You (men and women) don't marry FM polytheist ..... even if she pleases you (men and women)
- You (men and women) don't marry M polytheist.... even if he pleases you (men and women)
Excuse my rudeness but ??? are you on drugs, ma'am ?!
coz..
I have a question for you, tell me how will you feel if you were a fish who had a son and that son was a lion and the lion raped a tree?
this bender dude sure is !
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?Were you attempting to make the best collection ever of steretypes and common places?
my only advise for you to understand the meanings of that post ...
otherwise you would not write the useless long post...
by the way there are also some women more in strength then man also like some mother dnt care about their kids and left them in the middle of nowwhere and they elope with somebody else... and father have to take responsibilty.... police
what i said in my post is what is apparent....
and yeh once a giver always a giver
and its better if we stick to topic instead of male female propoganda...
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i think its the skeleton of one of the victim of nation lut homosexual hmm
this poor boy was just looking to the ganbang of homos suddenly the fiery rain change the situation and make the town upside down...
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Excuse my rudeness but ??? are you on drugs, ma'am ?!Whatever she is using, you should try it too, it may help you too.
This is a little bit off-topic but I was a bit curious, that rudeness of yours, is it inborn or just an instinctive self-defense mechanism? -
my only advise for you to understand the meanings of that post ...
otherwise you would not write the useless long post...
by the way there are also some women more in strength then man also like some mother dnt care about their kids and left them in the middle of nowwhere and they elope with somebody else... and father have to take responsibilty.... police
what i said in my post is what is apparent....
and yeh once a giver always a giver
and its better if we stick to topic instead of male female propoganda...
It is people who hold to stereotypes and delusions as those you keep exposing in your posts the cause of "homosexualism". Obviously your idea of what sex is and what it means and your snatching for one sex the fancy rol and cornering (or "giving"?) generously to the other the most convenient role for the ruling sex is the cause that people are lost in this question and survive whatever way they can. And all your steretypes of course without a single quote from Qur'an, but on the other hand GIVING a good show of the Iblees type refusing to postrate to God if you do not in turn get someoene, to wit, the other sex, in exchange to postrate to you.
When you run out of your quotes of Lut about the debauchers you have nothing to say except cling to the male-perverted statu quo and the catechism of steretypes.
People are not stereotypes, people are persons and have hearts and sensibilities and suffer, suffer from other people that do not realise that other people have feelings and emotional needs and deep sense of right and wrong and equity.
But I know all this is lost on most of you. Still, do not expect that your "wit" will do the trick of making seem right what is, again, stereotypes and delusion.
It is so pitiful, the image of give of human kind and the insult it entails to real good men, those yes, who are real givers and not idiots full of hot air. You adjudicate to them roles they never wanted and which they reject, since they already have taken the real role that good men since ever have taken, without arrogance and without delusions and earning respect and love.
Keep wasting attempts trying to turn this into a bettle of sexes for your enjoyment while you say someone else does that. Real good men do not do that.
And then you are shocked that there is "homosexualism". Stereotypes, lies and delusions like the ones you propagate are the cause of it and of many other things. People who need truth and deep satisfaction cannot but turn away from that cheap and empty imposture.
?Do you expect that you will get a greater share of the women's market by creating and then pushing "homos" out of the board?
(Note I remind that I do not believe in the homo, hetero, bi or whatever silly categories have been set up so as to maintain the statu quo or even worsen it. Worth noting how much some people relish this kind of stuff, when it is just a smoke-screen).
Salaam
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It may be his faith in God what brings such excellent manners in him
Last time I checked, my manners are better than yours.
Like seriously, all you ever do is cry ad hominem attacks yuck
at any rate I have reported it to moderators.
Reported me for what, huruf ?! Presenting quranic evidence against homosexuality ?
What a loser ! laugh
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Whatever she is using, you should try it too, it may help you too.
This is a little bit off-topic but I was a bit curious, that rudeness of yours, is it inborn or just an instinctive self-defense mechanism?His opinion is that he is not rude, but any observer can clearly see rudeness in his behavior. There is something called being deluded.
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His opinion is that he is not rude, but any observer can clearly see rudeness in his behavior. There is something called being deluded.
You think I'm deluded (ad hom) ?
Must be why you've provided not a single quranic word in support of homosexuality !
The actual delusion in question, remember ? )
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Salam,
Everyone calm down, we are not enemies to one another...we're discussing homosexual laws in Quran. It's very clear God is against homosexual acts including relationships.
Those who are anti-LGBT have provided good proof from Quran alone, that God is against homosexual acts,
while the pro-LGBT members haven't provided with one single solid proof from Quran alone, have distorted the verses to fit their desires (whether it be to fit their worldview or to please the rejecters to give Islam a "good image".), and have thousands of their own interpretations while they can't come to one conclusion.
Consider this verse and what's happening now between members
488 What is the matter with you that you are divided into two groups
over the hypocrites, while God has regressed them for what they
have earned? Do you want to guide those whom God misguides?
Whoever God causes to be misguided, you will never find for him
a path.Salam
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Merci bien, mais
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I see, it seems you already have your own kind of drugs, those drugs that brings you in a state to insult a innocent women only because you have nothing to bring in to her arguments.
That's very muscle of you, much respect man!But the fact remains that you have nothing to bring in to her argument.
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Last time I checked, my manners are better than yours.
Like seriously, all you ever do is cry ad hominem attacks yuck
Reported me for what, huruf ?! Presenting quranic evidence against homosexuality ?
What a loser ! laugh
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