Where does semen come from according to the Quran?
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Salamun Alaykum, peace be upon you brothers and sisters
I am new to this forum and i have a question on Surah 86 Verse 7 of the Quran
Appearantly , this verse talks about semen , and the classical translations look like thisPickthall
That issued from between the loins and ribs.
Sahih International
Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.
Muhsin Khan
Proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs,
Shakir
Coming from between the back and the ribs.
Dr. Ghali
Going out between the loins (Or backbone) and the breastbones.
Yusuf Ali
Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribsNow I`m reading the "Message" translation from the Monotheist Group and the Reformist Translation from Edip Yuksel and they don't translate it as ribs, but as testicles, can anyone provide a source to support this translation? Maybe an arab-english dictionary and the page where i can find it?
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Salam,
it's really simple. Do you think semen is produced somewhere near the ribs or between ribs and loins?
If a man is castrated, can he still create seeds? Nope. So it must be below the loin, and not between rib and loin.
When semen is produced, it's not in the testicles. Testicles only produce sperm. But when sperm is transported in a tube, it is joined with a Fluid. Fluid+sperm=semen. These two are joined between spine and testicles.
If you want to see a picture of the anatomy, google search "seminal vesicle position" (for educational purposes). In the picture you will see seminal vesicle. It's around there that semen is created, and as you can see, the fluid and semen are between testicles and spine.Though you're looking for translation, I simply wanted to point out that " semen created between ribs and loin" is impossible if anatomy studies are correct.
Salam
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There has been a tendency to translate any drop that appear in the Qur'an and even any liquid as sperm. May be, may beone or some of thos instances might be sperm, but I would risk that many of those times thinking that it might be sperm is wishful thinking.
Just ignore the sperm translation and go from the original text without adscribing preconceived values or meanings.
The liquid mentionned in the 86.7 some forumer here hinted at it being the mothers blod that contributes to the formation of the embryo and fetus.
Salaam
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There has been a tendency to translate any drop that appear in the Qur'an and even any liquid as sperm. May be, may beone or some of thos instances might be sperm, but I would risk that many of those times thinking that it might be sperm is wishful thinking.
Just ignore the sperm translation and go from the original text without adscribing preconceived values or meanings.
The liquid mentionned in the 86.7 some forumer here hinted at it being the mothers blod that contributes to the formation of the embryo and fetus.
Salaam
salam,
It could be, but previous verse says that the "water spurts forth", spurts being a keyword.
Salam
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salam,
It could be, but previous verse says that the "water spurts forth", spurts being a keyword.
Salam
No, I do not know which translationyou have used, but the original Arabic says liquid ejected that from between the column and the ribs. Firs it is ejected (from the heart I take it) and then it goes out from in between the column and the ribs and goes to the womb.
Salaam
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No, I do not know which translationyou have used, but the original Arabic says liquid ejected that from between the column and the ribs. Firs it is ejected (from the heart I take it) and then it goes out from in between the column and the ribs and goes to the womb.
Salaam
Free Minds Quran.
It cant be blood, as the verse is about "create" while the blood thing is for development. A "human" is created when egg and sperm join, after that the egg travels to uterus where it attaches. From there it begins development, with blood needed.
Salam
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Free Minds Quran.
It cant be blood, as the verse is about "create" while the blood thing is for development. A "human" is created when egg and sperm join, after that the egg travels to uterus where it attaches. From there it begins development, with blood needed.
Salam
Not so, not so fast, not so simple
39.6
?l os ha creado de una sola alma, luego ha hecho de ella a su pareja. E hizo descender para vosotros ocho pares de reses. ?l os crea en el seno de vuestras madres, creaci?n tras creaci?n, en una triple oscuridad. Ese es Dios vuestro Se?or. A ?l pertenece el reino. No hay m?s dioses que ?l ?C?mo entonces cambi?is? (6)
Salaam
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Not so, not so fast, not so simple
39.6
?l os ha creado de una sola alma, luego ha hecho de ella a su pareja. E hizo descender para vosotros ocho pares de reses. ?l os crea en el seno de vuestras madres, creaci?n tras creaci?n, en una triple oscuridad. Ese es Dios vuestro Se?or. A ?l pertenece el reino. No hay m?s dioses que ?l ?C?mo entonces cambi?is? (6)
Salaam
I don't understand Spanish D, but google translated. You might be right, but I really think 867 is about semen.
Salam
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Quran is not Anatomy textbook. We are proud when its content does not contradict science. Moreover, in early fetal life the place is correct.
Salam,
I know it's not an anatomy textbook. But the verse is about a water that comes from between spine and testes. Anatomically, it's impossible if it's from between ribs and loin...But between spine and testes, it's correct. Read my previous post on difference on where sperm (not liquid) and semen (liquid) are formed and their location.
Then it says the water "spurts forth".Salam
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The previous verse says ''the fluid ejected'' (implying - from male penis) the following (867) is ''emerging from'' (implying from - seminal vesicle (between backbone ). Whatever comes from the seminal vesicle + the testcicle make up a sperm. The seminal vesicle makes up the 70% of semenal fluid (sperm). Note that in the translation, it is not between backbone and ribs but between backbone and testicles.
The verse could also talk about the initial stage of embryo. Because, the Quran always talks about different processes. For example, creation of man from water, dust, mud is not contradictory information, It jus talks about different stages of human development. Thus, even time is not taken into account. When the moon is split - talks as if it already happened but in reality it is the future.
Nevertheless, the testicles are located exactly in the abdomen (along with other organs), literally between the backbone and ribs of an embryo at initial stages of development. Only after few months the testicles ''come down'' to cool off forming male organ. It is because of testeserone.
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The second peculiarity of this water is that it secrets-discharges from the location situated at the middle of the Loin , a location which is the central point of the Ribs .
The act/process of the creation of the Man
