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    Rekkd
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    That's why I always say live life and enjoy it while it lasts and Do good just incase the afterlife is real lol

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      Noon_waalqalami
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      What if all of you are wrong and when we die we just perish with our brains? Aren't you, You, because of your memories?

      Lets tell the truth, it is an understandable wishful thinking for humans to believe that after you die somehow in some shape of form life continues and your experience doesn't end at the moment of your death.

      Peace ? we all receive signs and for me personally it was the numerous deja vu dreams i.e. often dream future which the events appear exactly as dreamed a few days later; this is a common phenomenon.

      The same was asked before (see 1749) which most of Ch 17 deals with this question; here is translation one of the oldest manuscripts MA VI 165 with 95.4% statistical probability dated between 649-675 CE.

      http//idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/diglit/MaVI165

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        A_Submitter
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        Salam,

        there's logic and then there is faith.

        Salam

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          Bender
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          Just because Logic Tells someone created and creating this world, how can you be sure that your life will not end at the moment of your death?

          it's not only logic, it is for me also inspiration.

          What if you are no better than a robot, who dies when he dies and rots on the ground. Having no other life.

          The problem with "What IF" questions containing a false statement, is that every answer is correct.
          The fact is that we are better than robots.

          What if all of you are wrong and when we die we just perish with our brains?

          Time will tell

          Aren't you, You, because of your memories?

          no

          Lets tell the truth, it is an understandable wishful thinking for humans to believe that after you die somehow in some shape of form life continues and your experience doesn't end at the moment of your death.

          A lot of people (evil people) who believe in an afterlife are very afraid of it.
          And a lot of people (good people) don't even care because they have nothing to fear either way.

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            Man_of_Faith
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            That's why I always say live life and enjoy it while it lasts ) and Do good just incase the afterlife is real lol

            And you think that will save you?

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              Rekkd
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              And you think that will save you?

              I was joking, ofcourse I believe in an afterlife. I sometimes wish life would end as it would be so much easier but I know I'm not perfect so I'm not yet ready. Untill I figure out what this whole thing is about.

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                imrankhawaja
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                for me question is clear than logic faith and scriptures...

                why i m here?
                why other livingthings(plants & animals) are not like me? i did not see monkeys are creating spaceships and donkeys are making bank balance...

                i know i have been created...

                from a code what scientist called DNA..

                science is also telling me the one who commands on DNA coding can make my copies as much as he wish...

                and final and logical answer...

                as the matter of fact someone created me .. for first time (what i beleive) after my birth...
                there is not a diffcult thing for him to make me again , whenever creator wishes...

                the first part of self truth is already in hand..
                the second part is future (which is prettty possible with respect ot the first part of my existence)...

                this wishful thinking may also apply if there is not a creator who creates us and everything is happeing due to coincidence or accident what most of the athiest beleive...

                but i can still go with the flow of these last expressions like accidents/co incidence but who make that accident happen...?
                why with accident apple fell on floor instead of going towards sky...
                its not accident anymore since newton start figuring out the force that pulls things to the centre of earth...
                and this force what we know as gravity is become a proven fact ... after understanding the nature of force...

                the problem with the nature of creator is this.. we cannot actually grasp/understand it.. so we can only use words like co incidence/accidents/natural selection...

                wishful thinkers when they finally proved there is noGod then this theory of afterlife probablly become law that there is no life for sure... but right now i find their claims are very helpless when they use words like natural selection/co-incidence and accidents... thats the height of defeat when u failed to understand the 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 % of real nature of the master force that create every force of universe..

                u may understand gravity,dark energy, kinetic energy,potential energy, but understanding the master source is not really an easy task...

                i still dnt know what level we will achieve in afterlife to understand the real nature of our creator or there will b still more mysteries episodes

                but what i beleive is i m here with sense of understanding tht why i m here ? becoz its truth.. instead of figuring this out i need to carry on my travel and when i figuure out why i m here then i willl b waiting for hereafter... then a continous loop after all to him we will return...

                if i think wishfully that let steal the money the police will not gona catch me and even if they catch me they cannnot prove in the court that i m guilty...even if i found guilty i will come out after 6 months of punishment... so lets do it...

                and suddenly his wishful thinking turn into night mare ... while stealling he shoot somebody and a hidden camera recorded all of it and then he have to spend his whole life in prison... ?

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                  reel
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                  Stories of near death experience seem to hint there is!
                  You may check https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608434.0

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                    Your 'life' surely ends at the time of your death.. as it surely begins at the time of your birth.
                    The above is undeniable fact... and the truth..

                    Then you need to ponder on what is "YOU"?
                    Is your identity really defined on who (or what) you are?
                    And your religion? tradition? belief? nationality? time of born and death? location of born and death? ethnicity? skin color? language? cultural background? favorite football club? gender? sperm origin? egg? womb? does that really "You"?

                    Can "You" still exist when "you" have another identity? religion? tradition? belief? time? location? language? and other sorts of attributes which you, now recognized as your identity?

                    If the answer to the above is NO, then yes.. "you" do not exist after your death..

                    "I see God in every human being. When I wash the leper?s wounds, I feel I am nursing the Lord himself. Is it not a beautiful experience?"
                    -- Anjeze Bojaxhiu a.k.a Saint Teresa Of Calcutta

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                      hawk99
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                      Just because Logic Tells someone created and creating this world, how can you be sure that your life will not end at the moment of your death?
                      What if you are no better than a robot, who dies when he dies and rots on the ground. Having no other life.

                      What if all of you are wrong and when we die we just perish with our brains? Aren't you, You, because of your memories?

                      Lets tell the truth, it is an understandable wishful thinking for humans to believe that after you die somehow in some shape of form life continues and your experience doesn't end at the moment of your death.

                      I do prefer logic (Logic Tells someone created and creating this world)
                      to illogic (no creator, thing just popped up in existence).
                      The "what ifs" in you post have no support and are unverifiable
                      conclusions on your part. They can be challenged thusly

                      1. what if we are better than robots.
                      2. What if we are correct.
                        Also your determination of "wishful thinking"
                        is unverifiable conclusion from a logical standpoint. no offense intended

                      handshake

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                        hansolo
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                        Hawk handshake

                        Who would want to believe that their existence will end at the moment of death ?

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                          hawk99
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                          Hawk handshake

                          Who would want to believe that their existence will end at the moment of death ?

                          Peace hansolo, there are many who believe "that their existence will
                          end at the moment of death"

                          peace

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                            hansolo
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                            Thats true, but the ones that believe otherwise, wouldn't they find religions attractive?

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                              hawk99
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                              Thats true, but the ones that believe otherwise, wouldn't they find religions attractive?

                              Yes, we tend to look for a spiritual home to give our lives meaning
                              one which we can understand the world we live in.

                              peace

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