Create a seperate board for idmkhizar and evolution
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Khi- Salam. Thanx 4 the invitation ut no i cant participate in so many forums. However i request the evolutionists 2 come out in public n have debates with creationists so tht everyone can see n decide for themselves which side they wanna take. Also both creation n evolution shld be taught in school or both be left out. Evolutionists shldnt be biased. Tht wld be fair. GOD Bless!
Heh, too bad.
About public debates There had been lots of them. It's going on in books, journals, articles, the Internet, and of course in public. Evcforum.net, for example, is practically a massive debate forum.
But in science, the matter has been considered settled for a long time. Creationism (separate creation theory, stasis of life, design) had their day before the 17th century. By then more facts accumulate that cannot be accommodated by separate creation, stasis, and design.
I have a suggestion Read Darwin's Origin of Species. See for yourself if his arguments are worthwhile.
http//www.talkorigins.org/faqs/origin.html
Then again, I doubt you will. You have already decided that you are right so you won't bother to study.
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Then again, I doubt you will. You have already decided that you are right so you won't bother to study.
Khi- Salam. Lemme tell u tht if i see public debates with evolutionists vs creationists n find some only some valid pts which evolutionists bring up besides the gobbledygook ive heard in the debates ive already heard then ill consider tht. Until then y shld i? There views dont make any sense 2 me coz through my life experience i find they r wrong. GOD Bless!
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Peace Natu, my coolest bro,
I agree. During my time here so far, I don't think anyone here has problems with evolution like Khizar. I don't see anyone 'preaching' evolution either. Personally I am baffled as to why Khizar did this. But after so much debate, I don't know if Khizar has any intentions to learn, as he repeatedly refused when offered evidence.
I agree that there are more important things than this for others.
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Khi- Salam. Lemme tell u tht if i see public debates with evolutionists vs creationists n find some only some valid pts which evolutionists bring up besides the gobbledygook ive heard in the debates ive already heard then ill consider tht. Until then y shld i? There views dont make any sense 2 me coz through my life experience i find they r wrong. GOD Bless!
'Your life experience' of twenty-odd years has not included looking at the evidence. Evolution is not established over debates, it is established through observation, data collecting, and reasoning--through science. I know that you do not grasp how science works. Read Darwin's book and see how he come up with his theories of evolution in the first place. At least you should be knowledgeable about the thing you so despised.
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Peace Natu, my coolest bro,
I agree. During my time here so far, I don't think anyone here has problems with evolution like Khizar. I don't see anyone 'preaching' evolution either. Personally I am baffled as to why Khizar did this. But after so much debate, I don't know if Khizar has any intentions to learn, as he repeatedly refused when offered evidence.
I agree that there are more important things than this for others.
Peace.
Thanks for your kind words. You do make sense. Its good to see that our man IDM has such a flair for the topic of evolution, and we shouldn't put him down, in fact its somewhat inspirational, but right now I think we're suffering another period of 'too many threads for a topic' - in my view, its best to keep one thread to discuss a single topic, so that readers don't get baffled with fresh threads on the topic, and so that one conclusion is reached in one thread instead of loads of different conclusions/arguments in loads of different threads - thats what will bring unity on any topic.
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'Your life experience' of twenty-odd years has not included looking at the evidence. Evolution is not established over debates, it is established through observation, data collecting, and reasoning--through science. I know that you do not grasp how science works. Read Darwin's book and see how he come up with his theories of evolution in the first place. At least you should be knowledgeable about the thing you so despised.
Khi- Again u try 2 assume tht ur smart while im dumb. This is typical of evolutionists. As i said all i really want is tht either creation be taught alongside evolution in the schools universities or both be taken out. Tht wld be fair. GOD Bless!
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Khi- Again u try 2 assume tht ur smart while im dumb. This is typical of evolutionists. As i said all i really want is tht either creation be taught alongside evolution in the schools universities or both be taken out. Tht wld be fair. GOD Bless!
If you don't want to be called ignorant, then don't act ignorant. It is your refusal to study that led me to that conclusion.
If you want creationism (separate creation, stasis, design--notice that I specify these things to distinguish them from the general notion of 'creation') to be taught in schools, you come to the wrong place. Since when does the Free-minds forum becomes the Department of Education? Go to your local Department fur Edukation (or whatever they call it in Deutsch) and state your case.
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If you don't want to be called ignorant, then don't act ignorant. It is your refusal to study that led me to that conclusion.
Khi- Yeah, whtever.
If you want creationism (separate creation, stasis, design--notice that I specify these things to distinguish them from the general notion of 'creation') to be taught in schools, you come to the wrong place. Since when does the Free-minds forum becomes the Department of Education? Go to your local Department fur Edukation (or whatever they call it in Deutsch) and state your case.
Khi- Yes maybe i shld do tht. GOD Bless!
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Hello All,
I think we should stop this debate. It is getting personal and this not what we want. We are here to engage in constructive argument so that we may get some understanding from each other...
Khizar, you have made your point on evolution. Thank you for your contribution. I have learnt something from you too. You have made me go back and recheck my understanding of science and evolution and thats a good thing, though I still believe "Evolution" is more credible. But you don't have to believe it and thats fine too and I have no problem with that...
Regards,