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What makes food Halal?

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    Amra94
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    I like you already! welcome handshake
    Far be it for me, and forgive me for asking, and I don't mean to pry, but is that an American Wirehair in your profile pic?
    Maybe it's an American Shorthair. hmm

    Haha. Salam handshake and thanks )
    I think it is an American Wirehair. Not sure since it's not mine, just a friendly stray cat I came across!

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      virginia
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      Yes, no )

      These hundred studies are done while already eating carbohydrates.

      Carbohydrates+fat=increased LDL
      Saturated fat as main energy source instead of carbohydrates=Increased HDL levels, decreased LDL levels.

      Even unsaturated fat lowers cholesterol overall when minimizing carbohydrate intake

      We are meant to live off fat, which saturated fat makes out the most.

      Any study will tell you that you need a balanced diet to be healthy, and that includes the intake of carbs in as per minimum the 55% of daily macronutrient intake. I will never understand this holy war against carbs... fruits are mostly carbs and no one will tell you to keep them away from your diet. Keep a balanced healthy diet and that's all. Years ago the holy war was against all fats, now it is against all carbs tempt From where are we supposed to take the elements provided by fiber and complex carbs?
      It sounds like the beauty - loss weight industry, once in a while they change the research so they come up with a brand new product or ingredient to promote so the industry goes on green tea, collagen, keratin, gluten free, eat more this and blabla... what is the next that will overfill the supermarket shelfs for the eager positivist and well informed consumers? What is the next superfood we desperately need?

      In the end even monosaccharides carbs (sugars) are necessary, everything is necessary, in its meassure. Listen to your body. Balance is the key, imo.

      btw I just cooked pastitsio, anyone in? eat

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        Any study will tell you that you need a balanced diet to be healthy, and that includes the intake of carbs in as per minimum the 55% of daily macronutrient intake. I will never understand this holy war against carbs... fruits are mostly carbs and no one will tell you to keep them away from your diet. Keep a balanced healthy diet and that's all. Years ago the holy war was against all fats, now it is against all carbs tempt From where are we supposed to take the elements provided by fiber and complex carbs?
        It sounds like the beauty - loss weight industry, once in a while they change the research so they come up with a brand new product or ingredient to promote so the industry goes on green tea, collagen, keratin, gluten free, eat more this and blabla... what is the next that will overfill the supermarket shelfs for the eager positivist and well informed consumers? What is the next superfood we desperately need?

        In the end even monosaccharides carbs (sugars) are necessary, everything is necessary, in its meassure. Listen to your body. Balance is the key, imo.

        btw I just cooked pastitsio, anyone in? eat

        These are lies. Making carbs enemies is the first step to reverse what happened in the 70s.

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          virginia
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          These are lies. Making carbs enemies is the first step to reverse what happened in the 70s.

          Sorry can't get what you mean... what happened in the 70?s?

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            Sorry can't get what you mean... what happened in the 70?s?

            Before 70s, majority of people consumed mainly fatty foods, meaning the main source of energy was fat.
            During late 70s, a scientist conducted a research, globally. He studied the connection between foods and health.
            Some time during his research, he supposedly came across a people eating large quantities of carbohydrates and fats and found that they have much more cardiovascular related disorders, and from this he concluded that fat is dangerous.
            His research was incorrect, because he had also reported in his study that the Inuit people were among the healthiest because they lived mainly on fat (from fish).

            So, everyone listened to this scientist, and then began the campaign against fat. It began in USA, and then spread to the world.
            At the same time, obesity began increasing (today it's an epidemic), and more type-2 diabetes cases. This happens during the switching from fat rich lifestyle to a carbohydrate rich lifestyle.

            It's no coincidence.

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              Man_of_Faith
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              And then primarily sugars.

              Carbohydrates are good for an active lifestyle, if in the appropriate proportions.

              (Normal) Fat is not as bad as its reputation.

              Be well
              Qarael Amenuel

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                Refined carbohydrates are the problem, not carbohydrates in general.

                For example, the carbohydrates in wholefoods such as fruit/veg/beans/etc are fine in appropriate portions.

                The healthiest diets according to the research are primarily wholefood plant based diets. Note, "primarily" does not mean "entirely".

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  No, all carbohydrates are bad in large quantities. Refined or not, it triggers the same reactions that lead to obesity and other problems such as type-2 diabetes in the long run (can be reversed).

                  We do need carbohydrates, but these are in very small quantities, and this requirement is met when eating vegetables growing above ground, which is not starchy.

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                    No, all carbohydrates are bad in large quantities. Refined or not, it triggers the same reactions that lead to obesity and other problems such as type-2 diabetes in the long run (can be reversed).

                    You are simply perpetuating a myth. Although perhaps you are referring to a small number of people who seem to do best on a low carb diet.

                    Evidence
                    https//authoritynutrition.com/good-carbs-bad-carbs/

                    All the longest living communities in the world have plenty of wholefood carbohydrates. Here is some interesting research
                    https//www.bluezones.com/2016/11/power-9/

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      You are simply perpetuating a myth. Although perhaps you are referring to a small number of people who seem to do best on a low carb diet.

                      Evidence
                      https//authoritynutrition.com/good-carbs-bad-carbs/

                      All the longest living communities in the world have plenty of wholefood carbohydrates. Here is some interesting research
                      https//www.bluezones.com/2016/11/power-9/

                      It's not a myth. There's no such thing as good carbs and bad carbs. That's a myth and big lie.

                      Low carb lifestyle is for everyone

                      Do you know how the body functions regarding food and so on? I mean the reactions and why obesity happens?

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                        Amra94
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                        It's not a myth. There's no such thing as good carbs and bad carbs. That's a myth and big lie.

                        Low carb lifestyle is for everyone

                        Do you know how the body functions regarding food and so on? I mean the reactions and why obesity happens?

                        Those Chinese rice eaters are hella obese.

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                          virginia
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                          Wakas is right and carbs are as needed as everything else. We are omnivore species so we need it all, we are not designed to eat a kind of macronutrientd only, you just need a equilibrated diet! maaaaany brain functions work by the energy and elements provided by carbs...

                          Even taking it quranically, first in number come foods with carbs as main macronutrient, protein and fat are referred less times.

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                            Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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                            I'm not sure that I understand all what you're talking here, but maybe ayets 257 and 261 are about what you're talking and maybe they can help you.

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                              Amra94
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                              OMG that's you! You're so cute! like a baby sloth. group (three toed or two toed sloth,your choice. Can't decide which one is more adorable than the other.)

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                                Those Chinese rice eaters are hella obese.

                                There's a difference. Their bodies are used to rice. It's been around them longer than when bread was discovered millennia ago.
                                Europeans, Middle Easterners, Africans, and east Asians; their bodies are more used to fat than carbs.

                                It's really easy. Check where obesity happens, and you realize these people's bodies are meant to consume fats instead of carbs.

                                Since most are unaware of the reactions, I will explain.

                                We eat carbs. Normally, the pancreas would excrete insulin to cause reactions to break down the carbs. While insulin is known for that, it also has another function; to store fat. So the more carbs one eats, the more insulin=storing more fat.
                                The simplest solution would be to minimize carbs and increase fat (our natural source of energy).
                                Many people will still not gain weight, and there are many reasons. Perhaps an extremely active person, or hyperthyroidism etc., eventually it catches up.

                                Even if it won't cause obesity, eating too much carbs will lead to diabetes. And it's understandable considering our pancreas isn't meant to excrete so much insulin...the body mistakes the pancreas as malfunction for excreting sooooooooo much insulin, thus the immune system attacks the pancreas, specifically the cells excreting insulin, causing diabetes type-2 (I don't know about type-1).

                                This is just an indicator that out bodies are meant to consume fat in larger quantities and carbs in much smaller.

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                                  I'm not sure that I understand all what you're talking here, but maybe ayets 257 and 261 are about what you're talking and maybe they can help you.

                                  I agree, this is helpful.

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                                    There's a difference. Their bodies are used to rice. It's been around them longer than when bread was discovered millennia ago.
                                    Europeans, Middle Easterners, Africans, and east Asians; their bodies are more used to fat than carbs.

                                    It's really easy. Check where obesity happens, and you realize these people's bodies are meant to consume fats instead of carbs.

                                    Since most are unaware of the reactions, I will explain.

                                    We eat carbs. Normally, the pancreas would excrete insulin to cause reactions to break down the carbs. While insulin is known for that, it also has another function; to store fat. So the more carbs one eats, the more insulin=storing more fat.
                                    The simplest solution would be to minimize carbs and increase fat (our natural source of energy).
                                    Many people will still not gain weight, and there are many reasons. Perhaps an extremely active person, or hyperthyroidism etc., eventually it catches up.

                                    Even if it won't cause obesity, eating too much carbs will lead to diabetes. And it's understandable considering our pancreas isn't meant to excrete so much insulin...the body mistakes the pancreas as malfunction for excreting sooooooooo much insulin, thus the immune system attacks the pancreas, specifically the cells excreting insulin, causing diabetes type-2 (I don't know about type-1).

                                    This is just an indicator that out bodies are meant to consume fat in larger quantities and carbs in much smaller.

                                    I'm not Chinese and have been eating high carb low fat for 3 years now. My blood sugar levels are fine and i'm nowhere near overweight.
                                    It's a fact those who eat a whole foods, plant based diet are slimmer, have lower rates of diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

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                                      I'm not Chinese and have been eating high carb low fat for 3 years now. My blood sugar levels are fine and i'm nowhere near overweight.
                                      It's a fact those who eat a whole foods, plant based diet are slimmer, have lower rates of diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

                                      Nope it's not a fact, it's the opposite

                                      I think we'll have to agree to disagree

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                                        Amra94
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                                        Nope it's not a fact, it's the opposite

                                        I think we'll have to agree to disagree

                                        Lol show me one study that says those following plant based diet have a higher risk of any one of those diseases.

                                        https//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/

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                                          virginia
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                                          Nope it's not a fact, it's the opposite

                                          I think we'll have to agree to disagree

                                          Dunno where you took your statistics but amra94 is right, i follow the same diet resulting even underweight, low sugar and cholesterol rate and low blood preassure

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