Kaba Corruption

Natu

Woz jus woinderin - are there any articles/books which expose the kaba of arabia being the this Godess? I have read something like this somewhere before but I cant remember exactly where. Any help is much appreciated, becuase I've got somebody who is thinking of accepting God alone, who wants to know more about the truth of this kaba.

Thanks in advance.

truth

Peace,

Perhaps Ayman may have some more information on his sources of information.

regards.

Natu

Peace all

From Ayman's 'Language Barrier' article we have sufficient evidence that the kaba of arabia has some connection with Dusari, and in Aidid Safar's book we also find convincing evidence of a hindu origin, e.g. panch-maha-yagna = five daily worship. What do you guys think, is either one right, or have the arab's made a mish mash remix?

jonny_k

Peace all

From Ayman's 'Language Barrier' article we have sufficient evidence that the kaba of arabia has some connection with Dusari, and in Aidid Safar's book we also find convincing evidence of a hindu origin, e.g. panch-maha-yagna = five daily worship. What do you guys think, is either one right, or have the arab's made a mish mash remix?

Khi- Salam. Even if this true n the Kaaba belonged 2 Hindus n they prayed five times a day then this doesnt make it wrong 4 the physical practices themselves r not wrong but the intentions with which n the dedication 2 whom they r performed is whts most important. Maybe the Hindus also originated from Abraham or they adapted these practices from him while later generations entered into idolatry. GOD Bless!

Natu

Peace.

I respect your views IDM.
By the way, what does 'khi' mean, I see it on almost all of your posts lol.

Take care.

TAJ

Maybe the Hindus also originated from Abraham or they adapted these practices from him while later generations entered into idolatry.

Salaams All,

Well, there is the Brahma A Hindu god.

jonny_k

Well, there is the Brahma A Hindu god.

Khi- Salam. As far as i know in the Hindu scriptures Brahma is/was originally an attribute of GOD meaning 'Lord/Cherisher/Sustainer' similar 2 Arabic 'rabb'. Hinduism is in its origin a MONOTHEISTIC religion but became corrupted later on. One famous quote from the Veda is 'ikam braham doostia naasti nia naasti naasti kinchan' meaning 'there is only one God n no other, no one, not in the least'. GOD Bless!

unknownuser

http//www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/mecca3.gif

http//www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/mecca4.gif

http//www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/kabba3.jpg

http//www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/kabba4.jpg

and then

http//www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/mecca2.gif

All coincidence ofcourse

Peace
Noah

TAJ

Well, there is the Brahma A Hindu god.

Khi- Salam. As far as i know in the Hindu scriptures Brahma is/was originally an attribute of GOD meaning 'Lord/Cherisher/Sustainer' similar 2 Arabic 'rabb'. Hinduism is in its origin a MONOTHEISTIC religion but became corrupted later on. One famous quote from the Veda is 'ikam braham doostia naasti nia naasti naasti kinchan' meaning 'there is only one God n no other, no one, not in the least'. GOD Bless!
Very interesting, Khi. Thanks!

jonny_k

Very interesting, Khi. Thanks!

Khi- Ur welcome. GOD Bless!

Natu

All coincidence ofcourse

wink

Natu

People, I've just come across some fresh proof - loading it in the next post in a few minutes.

Natu

From

http//media.isnet.org/antar/etc/DeedatBalance.html

"The text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found
inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in
Mecca, is found recorded on page 315 of a volume known as
"Sayar-ul-Okul" treasured in the Makhtab-e-sultania
(library) in Istanbul, Turkey."

HINDU SCRIPTS HANGING INSIDE THE KABA OF ARABIA!

twisted We're in!

TAJ

Salaams All,

And the holy cow in India is probably from a Judaic influence or vise versa!
But the Kaaba was full of idols before Prophet MUhammad cleared it from them.

Peace

Peace Taj,
What would you call the actual Kaaba then though? How does it differ from an idol, if people bow down towards it?

Natu

Peace, 'Taj' and 'Peace'

Other threads are open in the salat section to debate physical ritual prayer, lets leave this thread to present the facts.

Natu

Peace.

Brother Noah put up the following in the thread http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3404 many thnks to him for doing so. . I hope he doesn't mind it being put here as well.

http//www.imagerely.com/imagehost/uimages/11848idol.jpg

In front of the temple stood two huge decorated pillars (1 Kings 715-22; 2 Chron. 37,16-17), which had no specific architectural purpose.23 They did, however, have symbolic meaning, for they were called 'Jachin', ('God founds') and 'Boas' ('He comes in power.'), expressing God' nature artistically and symbolically.24 Symbols play an important role in Biblical revelation25 and, as a result, have continually served as inspiration for art. The language of art is the language of symbols.

This might be shaping it a but, but i got it off a christian site. Researchers such as Jordan Maxwell claims that the original meaning was, jachin "God makes him firm" and boas "eagerness, strenght". And in that perspective, the pillars does remind of an old representation of the male fallic. That in cultures through out the world has been represented with 2 pillars. The egyptians at one point believed the sky rested on two such fallic pillars. The symbol is often used at doors, pointed doors. Now that we may have an idea of what they in reality represent to those that knows, what do you think the door in the middle. The pointy door in the middle of the two male fallics may represent?

http//www.wissenschaftliches-bildarchiv.de/Graphik/D006/001/Miniaturen/D006-001-G001.jpg

http//www.arch.montana.edu/classes/arch322/Images/Islamic/[email protected]

THANKS NOAH! YOU ROCK!

Natu

The following are extracts from http//www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0001/ET25-5336.html (A Hindu Website - now they want to claim owner ship of the cube idol!)

The ancient Vedic scripture Harihareswar Mahatmya mentions that Lord Vishnu's footprints are consecrated in Mecca.

The allusion is to the Vamana incarnation of Lord Vishnu whose blessed feet were consecrated at three holy sites, namely Gaya, Mecca and Shukla Teertha. Worshipping such carved, holy foot impressions is a holy Vedic custom which convert Muslims are inadvertently perpetuating. But in doing this they delude themselves and mislead others that these foot-impressions which are on reverential display in several mosques and tombs around the world are in fact Muhammad's own. There are several snags in this argument. Firstly worshipping a foot -impression amounts to idolatry and should therefore be taboo for a true Muslim.

The famous Black Stone is none other than the ShivLing of Makkeshwar alias Mecca. Lord Shiva is always shown with a crescent Moon on his head and every Shiva temple is supposed to have a sacred water spring representing the Ganges. The Crescent Moon pinnacle of the Kaba and the Zamzam spring (actually Zamza from Ganga) are irrefutable testaments to the Vedic origins of the Kaba.

V interesting, no?

Natu

Saw these, thought they're good pics to share. They don't mean anything really...

http//homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/zamzam-cola-01.jpg

Maybe carbonation and artificial sweeteners make the water holier...

http//usspogy647.com/albums/Pogy-92-to-96/zamzam.jpg

And muslim food is... chicken... hmm...

Idris

peace be upon you natu,

I d/led a file from aidid safar's site that has a lot of interesting information about the origins of the kaaba, i'm not sure if you already put any of it in this thread or not but d/l it here, I like all the new stuff he has added to his site

http//www.aididsafar.com/cube.zip