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    Buzzzor
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    Peace brothers and sisters,

    For those of you in the UK there's a series currently running on Channel 4 'Sharia TV', supposedly a debate show or something similar, some may find interesting. I can't seem to find the site at the moment. I couldnt even bare watching the show for a mere few seconds before finding something wrong with it shock

    If this post doesn't belong here I apologize for the inconvenience!

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      Natu
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      Well now that they're only running the old series of friends on CH4, they do need some other kind of comedy entrtainment. They've got the stuff now haven't they! Don't think we'll be missing Joey and friends much now will we?...

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        Peace,

        There is a serious problem in the shariah TV programme because there is nobody representing Quran! Even if one of us went on it would do show a lot more insight on Quranic thought than when the big beards who boast decades of study go on.

        I watched the last few episodes and there seemed to be a man who was reasonable but the bearded man always dominated and the other man always nodded and agreed uncomfortably, but didn't stand up for what the Quran says.

        The way of life presented in the Quran must be cleansed and shown to the people and this is a perfect oppurtunity also a debate will get a lot of media attention and therefore a lot of people will hear what we have to say.

        If the show was about Islam then it would be our place to go but it's about Shariah Law, this law is really very foreign to the Quran and revolves around the Hadith and Sunnah. But I still think that it needs to be clarified and made certain that there are believers in Quran that disown this false associations made to God.

        Nural

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          peace be upon you all,

          I watched the 1st series and I am currently watching this series.

          The website of the programme can be found here
          http//www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/S/shariahtv2/index.html

          I actually contacted one of the producers of the show to address my concerns after having watched the 1st series. My main complaint was lack of specific references when they stated a view. The responder said he would try his best (I assume, to correct the situation).

          You can read my comments of the 1st series, written on the following channel4 forum.

          if u cant access it

          peace all,

          Rating Shariah TV

          To those who watched the series, I'd like to ask them to score it out of 10, giving a rating showing how much they liked it. 10 being the best mark, zero being the worst.

          • a reason for the rating (just for interest)

          3/10

          In my personal opinion, overall, it was disappointing. In fact, on occasion, I thought it was a disgrace. The primary reason for this was that sometimes the so-called experts completely distorted what the Quran teaches. A few examples I will BRIEFLY highlight

          1st show (I think) the regular Imam from Leicster mentioned "hijab" is in Quran and strongly implied from this that this proves the "hijab"=headscarf law is undisputeable. Any student of the Quran knows, that whilst the word is mentioned, it is NEVER referenced as a headscarf, not even as an item of clothing! That was pure distortion. He carefully never quoted any specific verse to prove his point. I knew why. This may have fooled some, but not me.

          Stoning to death for adultery is NOWHERE to be found in Quran, yet they discussed it as if it was clear-cut. They could have at least said, this is a law taken from traditional accounts, not from Quran.

          The homosexual debate they should have clarified Quran prohibits the practice of homosexuality, but a person can still theoretically be homosexual. They could have also mentioned that Quran contains no punishment for just being homosexual. If they participate in evident/public lewdness (homosexual acts) however, then thats a different story.

          That Leicster Imam said "Christians will go to Hell" however was right in saying that God knows who is and who isn't, thus its impossible for a human to state such a thing conclusively. But he never mentioned that Quran says some Jews/Christians will go to heaven, because it recognises that within those faiths, there are monotheists. See 262 for example. Also, he messed up the meaning of the word "muslim" although I would have let him off with that one, if he didn't say the definition he gave was in Quran. Quoted no verse, as usual.

          On the last show, the Leicster Imam stated apostates must be killed according to Quran! This one particularly infuriated me. No-one even challenged it. Once again, he never quoted any verse to prove his point. This was a clever tactic used by several of the Imams at one point or another. To prove he is wrong, I will quote one verse

          Those who believe, then reject, then believe, then reject, then they increase in rejection; God was neither to forgive them nor to guide them to the path.

          According to the Imam, the person would be killed after the first rejection. Forget about doing it twice! In any case, Quran contains no such punishment for apostasy.

          Now that I think about it, the Leicster Imam was the poorest, but he was the most regular of the guests. I dont know why.

          Dont get me wrong, there was some good in the series. Aimed for a novice audience, which is fair enough. For someone relatively knowledgable of the Quran it was frustrating watching them quote laws/interpretations with no basis.

          If you think I'm the one with poor Quranic knowledge, not them, then either just watch the shows again, and see when they quote specific verses. It is very rare. OR take note of the points I made above and ask your local Imam, and do me a favour, ask for a specific verse or verses!

          Sorry for the long post, but thanks for reading.

          there are several threads on the show if one wishes to read more views.

          Wakas

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Man, cant people understand that muslims dont have the khalifite interpretation of islam? Just leave them alone!!

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              Natu
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              Man, cant people understand that muslims dont have the hanafite interpretation of islam? Just leave them alone!!

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                Wakas
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                Just watched episode 3
                www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/S/shariahtv2/points3.html

                references to traditional sources = 11
                references to al quran = 3

                I think the evidence speaks for itself.

                Wakas

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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