MAN, DID U KNOW THIS!!! A 2000 YEAR OLD BATTERY WAS FOUND!
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Salam,
A 2000 year old BATTERY WAS FOUND IN IRAQ
http//www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html
Man this proves all my ideas n thghts i had the week i got off a week ago. I was thinking tht earlier generations many who GOD destroyed were much mpre powerful n tht they may have been much more civilized n now i find this. Incredible isnt it. GOD Bless! -
Peace
That was something talked about in a history program shown recently in the UK about the Babylonians I think, its thought that it was possibly used to give people very small electric shocks, for religious purposes, in the bid that it might get rid of evil spirits ?
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Whoever discovered it does not bother to pass it to their descendants. We had to re-invent the battery hundreds of years later.
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Whoever discovered it does not bother to pass it to their descendants. We had to re-invent the battery hundreds of years later.
PEace,
Andya you're not being scientifically fair.
Conquests did, in some cases, mean loss of knowledge.
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Whoever discovered it does not bother to pass it to their descendants. We had to re-invent the battery hundreds of years later.
PEace,
Andya you're not being scientifically fair.
Conquests did, in some cases, mean loss of knowledge.
I concede that. Maybe the knowledge got lost when the Babylonians were overran by Romans/Greeks/Persians/Assyrians or whoever that conquered them later.
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It doesn't look right to me. It shows a picture of a clay pot, with machined or perfectlty formed metal rod and copper cylinder
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Brother Khizar
You are too young and a bit naive. Even if it was a battery, it was a primitive battery and discovering a battery does not really require much complex engineering. Battery does not have complex moving parts and it has a few components that were widely available for humans for milleniums. Humans had the same brains for thousands of years, so they could have, by mere chance, noticed an electrical shock when someone tried to pick the utencils after two different metal utencils fell in a jar of vinegar.
Peace,
Edip -
Peace,
Yes Khizar instantly thinks of supercomputers built by Babylonians being powered by these batteries!
In fact this discovery is nothing to really be impressed with - schoolchildren interested in science know of the following simpler battery
http//www.hilaroad.com/camp/projects/lemon/lemon_nail_penny.jpg
http//www.hilaroad.com/camp/projects/lemon/2lemons_meter.jpg
See for the full article
http//www.hilaroad.com/camp/projects/lemon/lemon_battery.html
WOW! Advanced society! Incredible! Whole ancient cities powered by lemons!
Please Khizar, learn to be more critical!
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Salam,
Wht i wanted 2 say tht ppl had a lot of intelligence cack then too. Out brain aint evolving but devolving n therefore we cant get along without machines anymore. Those machines were the result not of a single but 1000s of collective very knowledgable ppl. If we loose them now we might never be able 2 progress again. Inspite of all this equipment we have we r still unable 2 build a pyramid with the same material those ppl did 1000s of yrs ago. So whos more smart? There cld have been many more things previous generations made which we dont know abt too. GOD Bless! -
Salam,
Wht i wanted 2 say tht ppl had a lot of intelligence cack then too. Out brain aint evolving but devolving n therefore we cant get along without machines anymore. Those machines were the result not of a single but 1000s of collective very knowledgable ppl. If we loose them now we might never be able 2 progress again. Inspite of all this equipment we have we r still unable 2 build a pyramid with the same material those ppl did 1000s of yrs ago. So whos more smart? There cld have been many more things previous generations made which we dont know abt too. GOD Bless!Now, the issue is little different, dear Khizar. There is no evidence indicating that in the last several thousand years, human intelligence have increased. So, it is safe to say that the average cavemen lived in Catalhoyuk or Babillonia several thousand years ago, were as smart or intelligent as the average modern men.
But, you are going further, in reverse direction, and claim that the cavemen or the pyramidmen were even smarter than us. Well, I fear that, for all of us, you are going to prove that point. D
Enough of losing intelligence over an old battery-pottery and several piles of pyramid schemes. wink
Peace,
Edip -
It is kind of counter-intuitive when you expect ancient Egyptians, Babylonians etc. to have discovered the computer, electricity, whatever...
This is what you get when you start not with the facts but a presumption. Reverse your way of thinking and start with the facts. A visit to the local archaeological museum would be useful.
Oh, and about pyramids I assume we don't build pyramids now because...
- we don't mummify dead people
- we don't do slavery anymore
- we don't worship pharaohs.
That said, modern people did built some pyramids, not for burying pharaohs but for gambling...
http//nichirenscoffeehouse.net/Vegas/Luxor_01.html
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Salam,
I guess u did not understand this verse
Many a generation have we annihilated before them; they were more powerful, and more prosperous.
It is absolutely incompatible with the greatness of GOD tht He create us from the apes. GOD the almighty does it perfect the 1st time n it then depends on us on wht we do. GOD Bless! -
Salam bro Edip,
Do u believe tht we humans evolved from the apes? If u do then u shld know tht RK although he believed in micro "evolution", better termed as variation, absolutely refuted this by giving a mathematical example in terms of probability(see his appendix 31). GOD Bless! -
Salam,
I guess u did not understand this verse
Many a generation have we annihilated before them; they were more powerful, and more prosperous.
It is absolutely incompatible with the greatness of GOD tht He create us from the apes. GOD the almighty does it perfect the 1st time n it then depends on us on wht we do. GOD Bless!WHile I do not claim to know for whom 1974 is directed to, I speculate that various peoples in the past do have their highs and lows. The Ancient Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, Persians all have their glorious days. Peoples annihilated by God in the past may include prosperous societies--more prosperous than whomever it was that was addressed by 1974.
Then again, the archaeological evidence we have do not point to the existence of highly sophisticated societies in the past. No cars, computers, machines. The earliest tools were made of stone, not metal. Ancient Egyptians built their pyramids not by using mechanical cranes and concrete, but using slaves. Do you think that if they were more sophisticated than us, they would have developed a better technology than what we found in the archaeological sites?
You dismiss the bulk of the evidence in favour of one seemingly modern item.
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Then again, the archaeological evidence we have do not point to the existence of highly sophisticated societies in the past. No cars, computers, machines. The earliest tools were made of stone, not metal. Ancient Egyptians built their pyramids not by using mechanical cranes and concrete, but using slaves. Do you think that if they were more sophisticated than us, they would have developed a better technology than what we found in the archaeological sites?
Khi- Thts coz GOD utterly destroyed those generatiions n we were unable UPTIL NOW 2 find any such technology. N the pyramids as i said we cannot make them out of the same material even 2day. It is impossible even with all the machines we have. Some ppl therefore even claimed tht they were probably created by aliens. So this shows tht those ppl must have been very skillful. N thts y they did not need any cranes, comps, etc. Dont u get it? These devices we have 2day r needed by us coz WEVE BECOME WEAK N WE CANT LIVE PROPERLY WITHOUT THEM ANYMORE. Those ppl were strong n intelligent enough 2 solve their probs without a computer n cranes. This again shows they were much smarter. In fact i believe after humans realized their helplessness they started 2 build these devices. After all these devices cld have been made long be4? Y did the technology appear only a 100 yrs ago? Coincidence? I dont think so. Ppl wanted them coz they realized how weak they became. Originally they were powerful n wld have therefore never thgt of wasting their time making such devices. They cld live much more healthier without them. N we know the bad effects of each of these devices only too well. Polllution, too little social contact, dangerous radittation weakening the eyesight, etc.
You dismiss the bulk of the evidence in favour of one seemingly modern item.
Khi- Duh! GOD Bless!
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Khi- Thts coz GOD utterly destroyed those generatiions n we were unable UPTIL NOW 2 find any such technology.
So you're saying that God destroyed every single trace of Ancient Egyptian supercomputers, Babylonian electric devices, etc. along with every documentation of their existence (Ancient Egyptians and Babylonians write about themselves, you know) and spare their least sophisticated technology for archaeologists to find, so that they are deceived into thinking that the ancient peoples were less technologically advanced than us?
Along this line of face-saving argument, you have just called God a deceiver. Congrats. Then again, you do believe that God is an illusionist that plays tricks with our mind.
N the pyramids as i said we cannot make them out of the same material even 2day.
But we can make pyramids! Even with better material than those built by the fir'auns. I've shown you that casino owners in Las Vegas built pyramids.
It is impossible even with all the machines we have.
And the evidence for this is what?
So this shows tht those ppl must have been very skillful. N thts y they did not need any cranes, comps, etc. Dont u get it?
But they need slaves sweating under the sun pulling rocks while someone flogs them. Very sophisticated indeed.
Those ppl were strong n intelligent enough 2 solve their probs without a computer n cranes. This again shows they were much smarter.
Strong enough? Skeletons of ancient Egyptians showed that malnutrition is common.
Smart enough? What is the evidence?
In fact i believe after humans realized their helplessness they started 2 build these devices. After all these devices cld have been made long be4? Y did the technology appear only a 100 yrs ago? Coincidence? I dont think so. Ppl wanted them coz they realized how weak they became. Originally they were powerful n wld have therefore never thgt of wasting their time making such devices. They cld live much more healthier without them. N we know the bad effects of each of these devices only too well. Polllution, too little social contact, dangerous radittation weakening the eyesight, etc.
You can believe anything you want, but do understand that the evidence for the history of technology says otherwise.
You dismiss the bulk of the evidence in favour of one seemingly modern item.
Khi- Duh! GOD Bless!
Ignore the evidence at your own peril.