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58:21 Include 'Conquer' ;Prevail', 'Victors', etc. ?

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    Nonetheless
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    I was going through Chapter 58 and noted the following;

    5821

    Kataba Allahu laaghlibanna ana warusulee inna Allaha qawiyyun AAazeezun
    Allah has decreed, "Surely, I and My Messengers." Indeed, Allah (is) All-Strong, All-Mighty.

    Most of the English Translations has the additional 'Conquer' ;Prevail', 'Victors', etc. ?

    • Muhammad Asad God has thus ordained ?I shall most certainly prevail, I and My apostles!? Verily, God is powerful, almighty!

    M. M. Pickthall Allah hath decreed Lo! I verily shall conquer, I and My messengers. Lo! Allah is Strong, Almighty.

    Shakir Allah has written down I will most certainly prevail, I and My messengers; surely Allah is Strong, Mighty.

    Yusuf Ali (Saudi Rev. 1985) Allah has decreed "It is I and My messengers who must prevail" For Allah is One full of strength, able to enforce His Will.

    Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar God prescribed I will prevail, truly, I and My Messengers. Truly, God is Strong, Almighty.

    Wahiduddin Khan God has decreed, I and My messengers shall most certainly prevail. Truly God is Powerful and Almighty.

    T.B.Irving God has written "I shall prevail, both I Myself and My messengers!" God is Strong, Powerful.

    Safi Kaskas God has written, "I will surely prevail, I and My Messengers." God is All- Powerful, Almighty.

    An ordinance set by Allah and a dictum He pronounced authoritatively " I- Allah-along with My Messengers shall be emblematic of the final victory of all truth". Great is truth and it shall prevail; Allah is Qawiyun (Omnipotent) and Azizun .

    (2011 Edition) God has decreed "I and My messengers will be the victors." God is Powerful, Noble.

    Abdel Haleem God has written, ?I shall most certainly win, I and My messengers.? God is powerful and almighty.

    Abdul Majid Daryabadi Allah hath prescribed surely shall overcome, and My apostles. Verily Allah is strong, Mighty.

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    The word by word translation do not have those bolded above.

    I have read the other English translations [another 20+) and they all have something like the bolded terms above.

    I wonder did I miss something very obvious?

    What is your view, should those terms bolded be added to the verse?

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      Bender
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      try this

      the bold in your post should be ""

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        imrankhawaja
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        yes , the bold part is there.. none of them added anything ..

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          Timotheus
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          None of them added anything?

          Then what's this

          An ordinance set by Allah and a dictum He pronounced authoritatively " I- Allah-along with My Messengers shall be emblematic of the final victory of all truth". Great is truth and it shall prevail; Allah is Qawiyun (Omnipotent) and Azizun .

          Better translate the words that are there not the words that aren't /

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            imrankhawaja
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            actually we are talking about bold part ,

            thats what he was looking for.. possible meanings like prevail/overcome/takeover/winners/victors etc

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              Indeed, I was pointing out that your statement that none of them added anything is not entirely correct

              Peace

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                imrankhawaja
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                my whole sentence was addressed to bold part any way.. peace

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                  Nonetheless
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                  try this

                  the bold in your post should be ""

                  yes , the bold part is there.. none of them added anything ..

                  Thanks.

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