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Salvation for Alien?

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    Jafar
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    In the case of human encountering sentient Alien in another planet, yet the alien are somewhat more primitive than human.

    If the alien are far more advanced than human I think all of the option above are irrelevant..

    The poll was 'inspired' by this article
    Could Catholicism handle the discovery of extraterrestrial life?
    https//cruxnow.com/global-church/2017/02/23/catholicism-handle-discovery-extraterrestrial-life/

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    Catholicism is an evangelizing faith, so it?s not so difficult to believe that Catholics would be ready to set sail to where ?no man has been before? to spread the Gospel.

    Thus it seems that they're ready to sent out space missionaries to convert any alien that they can find...

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      imrankhawaja
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      it depends what type of aliens you ll find...

      let say earth without (human being)... so what theory you ll provide for all the animals who are not responsible for what they are doing..?

      if lion will not kill/eat deer he get died, if lion kill deer he can get hanged? (the mission must start from home why not convert all life to God first)

      and 2+2 =5 incase the value of 2 is 2.5

      lot of things..

      yeh but if a human being find another human being somewhere in galaxies.. then i myself will get amazed and find myself in a situation disturbing...

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        Jafar
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        it depends what type of aliens you ll find...

        Bipedal, capable to communicate / exchanging thought and ideas with each others through exchange of audio signal.
        Starting to develop agriculture and some of them still living on hunter & gatherer mode..
        And start to wonder why are they there, what's the shape of their world, what's the origin of their world, what happened after they die etc..

        let say earth without (human being)... so what theory you ll provide for all the animals who are not responsible for what they are doing..?

        if lion will not kill/eat deer he get died, if lion kill deer he can get hanged? (the mission must start from home why not convert all life to God first)

        Early humanoid only eats fruit and vegetables just like other primates, with exception of Chimpanzees..
        If early humanoid didn't start to consume meat (thus killing another animals for their food consumption) then modern human as we know now will not exist.
        Are we then not as 'guilty' as lion? (Or other omnivore)

        then i myself will get amazed and find myself in a situation disturbing...

        Better hurry to make your decisions, the catholic church has made their decision..
        They will start preaching the "Word of God" to them in order for them to earn their salvation through Jesus Christ...
        Too late.. then you will find their planet covered entirely with crosses and churches (just like medieval Europe)..

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          imrankhawaja
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          Are we then not as 'guilty' as lion? (Or other omnivore)

          thats what i try to tell you, its depend on the kind of alien are they intelligent being with responsibilty of life..? or they are just animals of whatever form.. (possibly energy beings, hydrogen beings, helium beings etc)

          Better hurry to make your decisions, the catholic church has made their decision..
          They will start preaching the "Word of God" to them in order for them to earn their salvation through Jesus Christ...
          Too late.. then you will find their planet covered entirely with crosses and churches (just like medieval Europe)..

          hahahahaha

          ok i dnt need to hurry.. i m sure it is not really possible to make something with the speed of light even if you make it you ll not be able to operate it.. even if you operate it , you still need million light years for your searching...

          even the nearest star from sun is approx 4 light years.. and do you have ANY idea how long does it takes to reach there with todays fastest technology... ?

          brother jaffar i thought you had nice grip of science but i think i have to change my understanding...

          what i try to tell you in my previous post it seems u did not understand it before replying me... i ll tell it again with easy mode..

          what i try to say , your question only apply when you see a similar human being living else where in universe ..
          then i will get amaze/disturb/confuse

          becoz as per my knowledge earth is the homing place of every human being ,
          human being is the product of earth.. so you are mixing two things ... you ll possibly not find any human being outside the earth .. (religion and science is agree on it i think)

          if you find any other thing(being/life) apart from human being ,then the same law what you apply to lion ,you will apply to that alien..

          hope you got it now..

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            good_logic
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            Imran,Jafar,what is the issue?
            If aliens come here and they find Qoran,they will be the gentlest of creatures. Unlike your fellow humans ,they will not discard it behind their backs.
            Oh and another thing,they will not believe the "hear say" translations about it. They will study it in detail to find out what it is really saying.
            .
            Jafar,your alien brothers and sisters are fair.
            Imran, have "faith" in aliens
            GOD bless.
            Peace

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              Jafar
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              what i try to say , your question only apply when you see a similar human being living else where in universe ..
              then i will get amaze/disturb/confuse

              becoz as per my knowledge earth is the homing place of every human being ,
              human being is the product of earth.. so you are mixing two things ... you ll possibly not find any human being outside the earth .. (religion and science is agree on it i think)

              if you find any other thing(being/life) apart from human being ,then the same law what you apply to lion ,you will apply to that alien..

              hope you got it now..

              What is your definition of 'human'?

              The alien here are defined as sentient, bipedal, capable of exchanging each other thought through audio signal, just starting to adopt agriculture although some of them are still living in hunting and gathering mode. With the advent of agriculture some of them have ample time to start pondering through the question of why are they there, what's the shape of their world, what's the origin of their world, what happened after they die.

              Their probability of existence is VERY PROBABLE, even in Milky Way galaxy alone given the Zillion number of planets.

              And FTL technology is coming soon, just around the corner..
              Personally I hope human has already ditched their insane and primitive religion once they discovered FTL..
              If they haven't it's much better to keep the FTL 'hidden' from them.. for the sake of the alien...
              Inter stellar crusade anyone?

              A piece of scene from human history

              Cortez "Hear ye o great leader Montezuma, within this book are the words of God!!!"
              Montezuma Took the book, hold it by his hear, hear nothing and dump it to the ground...
              Cortez "Blasphemy!!"

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                imrankhawaja
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                Imran,Jafar,what is the issue?

                i dnt have any issue lol

                Imran, have "faith" in aliens
                GOD bless.
                Peace

                yeh for me alien(extraterrestrial) being of fiction did not exist possibly..

                what exist as creature(outside earth) i have no idea.. niether i can figure it out.. example is gabi our friend .. and lot more creatures and they know their duties/functions...

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  What is your definition of 'human'?

                  my defination huh?

                  ok human being =( intellect +emotion+senses ) controlled by a character/spirit/ego/innerself

                  history = started from water and clay first generation from the womb of earth second generation from the womb of mother..

                  required atmosphere = planet earth ...

                  The alien here are defined as sentient, bipedal, capable of exchanging each other thought through audio signal,

                  alien is not a good choice of word use for human(insan) in here at earth..
                  even if you use it literally.. what do you mean by here? do you find these similar human(alien) elsewhere ?

                  Their probability of existence is VERY PROBABLE, even in Milky Way galaxy alone given the Zillion number of planets.

                  ok thats fine , how many of these have a flowing water and atmosphere similar to earth?

                  look this link , scientists are not still sure about anything apart from guesswork
                  http//www.space.com/30172-six-most-earth-like-alien-planets.html

                  And FTL technology is coming soon, just around the corner..

                  yes that will be nice technology i guess..
                  when it will come we will talk at that time...(right now we are in present point of life) what future behold nobody really knows..

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                    Jafar
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                    alien is not a good choice of word use for human(insan) in here at earth..
                    even if you use it literally.. what do you mean by here? do you find these similar human(alien) elsewhere ?

                    The most appropriate term is "Extra Terrestrial" life form. a carbon based life being not in planet earth..

                    yes that will be nice technology i guess..
                    when it will come we will talk at that time...(right now we are in present point of life) what future behold nobody really knows..

                    The timing will be perfect..
                    FTL will be revealed when human has grown wiser...
                    Among the criteria is the demise of their current archaic, insane and primitive religions...
                    Which is happening as we speak.. status in progress

                    Human spreading their religions across stars is a disaster for the entire galaxy...

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