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Why All of the monoteistic faiths are concentrated in middle east?

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    imrankhawaja
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    what is the evidence of noah location?

    whats about the messengers from time to time which are not mention by name?

    hmm hmm hmm once more hmm before showing your personal opinions & self claimed fatwas

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      imrankhawaja
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      This is because paganism always started for that land, which is still existed there and spreading throughout the world

      whats about india , it seems to me the history of india is more than 5000 years old and before abraham they were involved in paganism, some still doing it... what about buddism, started way before the traditional islam,,, still doing it..

      are you giving him false information?

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        huruf
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        I think the politeistic versus moneteistic "dilema" is a grecoroman culture invention, derived I guess of their conception of gods as compeltely antropomorphic creatures such as the gods that we are taught to know, like Mars, Jupiter...

        However, I even doubt that those were really a religion but rather folklore.

        Real religions, like Egyptian, maya or aztec or african religions which have given rise to santer?a, are not politeistic. They do not have a single doubt of the unity of Being. The source bieng always divine and One, but the manifesttions being uncountable and on uncountable levels. That also was the view of greek philosophers, beyond folklore.

        On the other hand while there are no politeistic religions there are politeistic persons. Like those who worship power or money as something different from the Unity of being.

        So that middle Eastern monoteistic simplism is just that, one of so many clish?s which hide truth rather than reveal it.

        Salaam

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          Man_of_Faith
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          Never mind, I did not read enough to form a valid viewpoint.

          Be well
          Qarael Amenuel

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            virginia
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            Peace all,

            The homo species are supposed to be originated in Africa and from there to have emigrated to the rest of the world. However, modern human being, that is homo sapiens sapiens, share a 2% of his DNA with another species, Neanderthal. Since Neanderhal became extinct and homo sapiens sapiens includes 2% of his DNA, most of anthropoligists have for granted that at some point archaeic homo sapiens and neanderthal interbreeded, although proofs for this were never found nowhere in the world.

            Since Neanderthal and homo sapiens lived together but there were no proofs of their encounter, neither of their interbreeding, many anthropoligists defended and defend the theory that both could not have hybrid offspring... How to explain then that modern homo sapiens sapiens presents a 2% of neanderthal DNA?

            Given the inexistence of archaeological evidence, both theories (interbreeding or just co existance until Neanderthals' extinction) seemed possible.

            However recently a kind of homo sapiens-neanderthal hybrid skull was discovered, turning upside down many theories . This skull seems to be the very first proof of the very first interbreeding between Neanderthal and homo sapiens, that is, the first homo sapiens sapiens because it shares homo sapiens characteristics along with neanderthal's. It was found in the Manot cave, in Israel, and it is dated from 45,000 years ago. Therefore, the only evidence/ proof for Neanderthal and archaeic homo sapiens interbreeding (modern human being) in the entire world has been found only in the Middle East.

            Somewhere after that is where I imagine Ibrahim in the Middle East region. Call me a dreamer but I always had the idea that Ibrahim, first jew patriarch, founder somehow of the monotheistic tradition, whose name in hebrew seems to mean "father of many people / nations" is strongly related to the storyline of human development. He represents, imo, the awakening of human intelect and the very first human act of reflection about the divinity.

            Ibrahim is the allegory for the first homo species able to reflect on the idea of god in a separated way from the primitivity of religions to find out the idea of the Only God beyond the deifying of natural forces or objects. His method was just observation, reflection and thinking through logical syllogism, and his conclusion was abstract, and exactly this represents a brand new stage in the development of human thinking.
            Ibrahim or whatever he represents, imo, is the first homo sapiens sapiens, and science seems to be able to claim that the very first appearance of the current homo species ( homo sapiens sapiens) are the offspring of both archaeic homo sapiens and the now extinct Neanderthal whose interbreeding could have started exactly in the Middle East region from where they spreaded through the rest of the world.

            So imo Ibrahim is the allegory for a stage of human development, not a chosen by God nation. Otherwise, there are huge questions arising was Ibrahim in fact in the Middle East or we suppose, influenced by tradition , that he was? Did God inspire only a chosen specific nation no matter where it inhabited? Of course not, as of course Qur'an is not the only "revelation" from the Lord of the worlds.

            But it all is, in the last analysis, just theories, and at any point a new discovery could debunk my insights which are based just on a very superficial knowledge of anthropology.

            Have a great day! sun

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              Rana_Hafiz
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              I think the politeistic versus moneteistic "dilema" is a grecoroman culture invention, derived I guess of their conception of gods as compeltely antropomorphic creatures such as the gods that we are taught to know, like Mars, Jupiter...

              However, I even doubt that those were really a religion but rather folklore.

              Real religions, like Egyptian, maya or aztec or african religions which have given rise to santer?a, are not politeistic. They do not have a single doubt of the unity of Being. The source bieng always divine and One, but the manifesttions being uncountable and on uncountable levels. That also was the view of greek philosophers, beyond folklore.

              On the other hand while there are no politeistic religions there are politeistic persons. Like those who worship power or money as something different from the Unity of being.

              So that middle Eastern monoteistic simplism is just that, one of so many clish?s which hide truth rather than reveal it.

              Salaam

              In fact monotheism is a modified shape of paganism in which only one deity is accepted and worshiped out of lot but the concept of God is totally different to a deity, Who is a living entity whereas deities are nonliving idols.

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                https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2014/09/15/the-first-commandment-of-islam-has-no-name-in-it-except-gods/

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                  Rana_Hafiz
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                  https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2014/09/15/the-first-commandment-of-islam-has-no-name-in-it-except-gods/

                  very true

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                    Salam

                    Because all the sacred places are in Middle East. It's only normal that the system be close to the sacred places.
                    It began with Abraham.

                    Salam

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                      Jafar
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                      Because all the sacred places are in Middle East. It's only normal that the system be close to the sacred places.
                      It began with Abraham.

                      Right... all other places are not sacred, only those in middle east are sacred..
                      Wait.. not in all middle east.. only in Arabia it's sacred..
                      Wait... not in all Arabia.. only in Mecca it's sacred..
                      All other sacred places are fake sacred places worshiped by pagan / false religion...

                      That's why we need to spread the truth (read our religion) to the pagans and believer of false religion.. through any means... including war and invasion..

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                        huruf
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                        Salam

                        Because all the sacred places are in Middle East. It's only normal that the system be close to the sacred places.
                        It began with Abraham.

                        Salam

                        Everything is sacred.Everything is God's creation.

                        Some people and regligions have insisted very much upon that and I think the Qur'an does.

                        There is no place that is more sacred than other, only places used for different purposes or with different benefits or teachings. Sacred are all, if we want to honour God's creation.

                        Salaam

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                          A_Submitter
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                          The sacred places are in Middle East.
                          Arabia and Egypt are part of Middle East.
                          Please back your claims with verses from Quran.

                          Salam

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                            huruf
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                            What is the Arabic word you take to mean "sacred"?

                            Salaam

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                              r94
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                              And this talk a slave nation from Egypt being chosen by God to teach and expand Gods word among all the other Goyim nations. What is this? Is this fair and merciful ? Isn't it Racists?

                              And than in the Bible it says Jesus saying "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel"

                              What? What about people in Far East? The mogloids, the Africans? The people on other continents across the sea?

                              Ahh, I forgot, they are not the chosen people, ah makes sense, God created them but, did not choose them. I guess they are not worthy of guidance.

                              Than we have The Quran, written in Arabic somewhere 1-1,5 thousand years ago. For the whole of mankind. Which part of the world spoke in Arabic a thousand years ago? The whole world? Most probably no. Was Arabic even the lingual Franca of The world, a thousand years ago? Does it make sense to sent a book as guidance for the whole mankind, in Arabic?

                              I mean, wouldn't it be so much more amazing to send a book of guidance to the all of mankind, in this day and age of High speed connection between people of the world all across the world? In addition, having it to be sent in english, the lingua franca of this day?

                              Wouldn't it be amazing for a Prophet to create let's say a YouTube channel where he could share the guidance with whole the world in one instant? A miracle in this day and age? Why making things harder.

                              If I can think about these things and possibility, can't God think about this? I'm I smarter than God himself? Of course not!

                              Than why ?

                              Allah states on 4078 that there were other messengers sent that aren't mentioned in the quran. As the levant (palestine, iraq, lebanon, syria) crosses three major continents, it makes sense for global calls to monotheism to begin there. Traders from arabia, central asia, north africa and Mediterranean europe regularly frequent the levant for trade which provides the perfect breeding ground for a prophet. These traders can then take what they've learnt and spread to other parts of europe, africa and asia.

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                                mmkhan
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                                Salaamun,

                                Middle east? Who said that?
                                Did Allah mentioned that Middle East or any other place on earth is sacred?
                                Or Did He mentioned that all Prophets and Messengers are sent in Middle Eastern Area only?
                                Or any other place is mentioned?

                                How many lies people created on Allah.
                                May Allah protect us all pr

                                If You are connecting with Allah properly in any part of India. Then that part of India is a sacred place.
                                If you are connected with shaitaan in any part of the word even Middle East, then that place is worst place in the world.

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                                  A_Submitter
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                                  Don't misunderstand me.

                                  I wrote "it began with Abraham", right?

                                  OP asked why the Monotheistic faiths are concentrated in ME. My answer Because all the sacred places are in Middle East. It's only normal that the system be close to the sacred places.
                                  It began with Abraham.

                                  In my answer, I didn't say the Middle East is sacred, rather the sacred places are located there.
                                  Perhaps I should expand and explain what the sacred places are
                                  -The direction of your Salat. Where? A sacred place in MIDDLE EAST.
                                  -Pilgrimage. Where? A sacred place in MIDDLE EAST.
                                  Then logically speaking, the Monotheist faith should be near these areas, and not in Siberia. As I said, it began with Abraham.

                                  For some, these sacred places are in Jerusalem/Bakka, for others in Mekka, and for minority in Yemen or Sinai desert...But all these areas are in Middle East.

                                  Salam

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                                    Perhaps I should expand and explain what the sacred places are
                                    -The direction of your Salat. Where? A sacred place in MIDDLE EAST.
                                    -Pilgrimage. Where? A sacred place in MIDDLE EAST.
                                    Then logically speaking, the Monotheist faith should be near these areas, and not in Siberia. As I said, it began with Abraham.

                                    For some, these sacred places are in Jerusalem/Bakka, for others in Mekka, and for minority in Yemen or Sinai desert...But all these areas are in Middle East.

                                    Salam

                                    You mean of course the polytheists faiths are concentrated in the middle east.
                                    Places are not sacred, especially not those places (Mekka, Jerusalem, etc) they are the center of blood, corruption, black magic, oppression, and almost everything God has forbidden.

                                    And from where did you get Ibraham came from the middle east?

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                                      A_Submitter
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                                      You mean of course the polytheists faiths are concentrated in the middle east.
                                      Places are not sacred, especially not those places (Mekka, Jerusalem, etc) they are the center of blood, corruption, black magic, oppression, and almost everything God has forbidden.

                                      And from where did you get Ibraham came from the middle east?

                                      I never said Abraham came from Middle East. Where did I say this?

                                      I said "It began with Abraham".

                                      2125
                                      And it was so, that We have made the Sanctum to be a model for
                                      the people and a sanctuary. And you shall take, from the station of
                                      Abraham, a place of communion. And We entrusted to Abraham
                                      and Ishmael ?You shall purify My Sanctum for those who visit,
                                      and those who are devoted, and the kneeling, the prostrating.?
                                      2127
                                      And it was so, that Abraham was raising the foundations for the
                                      sanctum, and Ishmael ?Our Lord accept this from us, You are
                                      the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.?
                                      2158
                                      The stone and the rock outcropping are amongst the symbols of
                                      God. So whoever makes Pilgrimage to the Sanctum, or is merely
                                      visiting, commits no error should he traverse them. And whoever
                                      donates in goodness, then God is Thankful, Knowledgeable.
                                      395
                                      Say ?God bears truth. Follow the creed of Abraham, monotheism,
                                      and he was not of the polytheists.?
                                      396
                                      The first Sanctum established for the people is the one in Bakk?a,
                                      blessed, and a guidance for the worlds.
                                      397
                                      In it are clear signs the station of Abraham. And whoever enters
                                      it will have sanctuary. And God is owed from the people to make
                                      Pilgrimage to the Sanctum, whoever can make a path to it. And
                                      whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.

                                      We have different understanding of where these sacred places are; Jerusalem, Mekka, Yemen, Sinai, etc., but all these places are located in Middle East.

                                      Salam

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                                        huruf
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                                        I doubt that beit in the sense used here is ahouse or building. Rather a spiritual or moral construct.

                                        Anybody morl in the worldwould not need,could not need to be materially in such a building in order to be in that moral standing.

                                        Salaam

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                                          Bender
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                                          I never said Abraham came from Middle East. Where did I say this?

                                          I said "It began with Abraham".

                                          You are right, I assumed it.
                                          I thought you mentioned him in combination with the "monotheist" faiths in the middle east for some reason, but it was just a statement.

                                          We have different understanding of where these sacred places are; Jerusalem, Mekka, Yemen, Sinai, etc., but all these places are located in Middle East.

                                          Salam

                                          There are no holy/sacred/important/etc places. Only polytheist believe in such things.
                                          A life, the truth, justice, etc are holy/sacred/important/etc

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