Did you guys feel this too?
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I've been subscribed to the r/Islam subreddit for a long time. I browse posts a lot, and I also post there pretty regularly. As far as I know, no one hates me. They don't even seem to care that I have different beliefs. Everyone knows it. I still post there and contribute my voice where I feel it's appropriate, and avoid the threads that I cannot contribute to in the way that's expected on their sub. It's their sub and not my own, so I can respect that and move on to other threads.
My point in saying this is that I don't think you should hate people who don't hate you. I don't think you should care about other peoples' beliefs and opinions (that don't affect you) when they don't care that much about what you think. Let them live their lives same as you live yours. We all disagree. But no one cares. (Once, some users actually started a debate about my beliefs in the comments section of one thread. All I did was post something unrelated. They never involved me in their discussion.)
I think the best way to combat hate is to actually spend time with the people whom you hate. On r/Islam, whenever there's a AMA thread from someone of a different religion (or lack thereof), they always get asked questions that are completely unrelated to religion. Start talking to people with the opinions you disagree with, and you might learn that we're actually pretty similar as humans after all.
You put it better than me!
Salam
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i dont know comrox sis i got the exact opposite impression from them. even if i just saw something posted from a quran only wesbite they'll immediately start spitting at it saying why are you bothering going there. then there's the amount of blind faith. i posted a thread here a while back so see for yourself. im just going to avoid it, avoid them, avoid ummah.comakathebiggesthellholeontheinternet and all others.
ofcourse im not saying i like having this hate! i hate this feeling...i want it to vanish. but i cont control it if thats what im feeling. same EdQ i dont WANT to agree with the islamophobes but it just happens. ive just been so horifeid by how cold the 'muslim brotherhoods' attitudes are towards us. smh my own siblings have turned on me and i didnt even tell them yet. i cant control how i feel but i do really want these feelings to go. i want to feel peace and love for all.. i'll get over it soon i think.
A submitter posted a really relevant surah, helped me understand. thanks for that bro. hopefully allah will clear my head soon.
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Yep, in the beginning, that's normal, but most of us calm down after a while. It is best to focus on the positive, aka knowing Quran. So far those who held too much resentment here for sectarians took the path of atheism after some months. Strangely, it has been one consistent thing.
hopefuly i wont be one of them. i trust where allah guides me though tempt hail
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i dont know comrox sis i got the exact opposite impression from them. even if i just saw something posted from a quran only wesbite they'll immediately start spitting at it saying why are you bothering going there. then there's the amount of blind faith. i posted a thread here a while back so see for yourself. im just going to avoid it, avoid them, avoid ummah.comakathebiggesthellholeontheinternet and all others.
They can dislike the ideology while still liking (or having neutral feelings for) the person themselves. Of course they're going to "spit" at it because it's not what they believe. They disagree with it. We all do the same thing with their sites that we disagree with, don't we? Putting aside all the connotations that come with these phrases "Qur'an only" "r/Islam" "Ummah Forum"... What makes your statement against Ummah Forum any different from what they say about Qur'an only websites? You can disagree with their ideology and blind faith, or whatever you want to call it, without taking it to a personal level and disliking them as a whole. Neither side has to take it to the extreme level of "us vs. them."
smh my own siblings have turned on me and i didnt even tell them yet.
Tell them what? Why do you have to tell them anything?
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Yeah I know what I'm feeling isn't right and I don't like having this feeling...so I'm trying to stop it.
giveup
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YES!
I feel EXACTLY the same!
I frigging HATE them and their stupid arrogance. "If you're not Muslim you're going to Hell, blah blah blah" Who the Hell are you to make such an obnoxious condescending judgement, when the Quran clearly states that's NOT true?
I HATE how they sexualise EVERYTHING! Even a stupid handshake. My own male family members don't hug me, let alone shake my hand, just imagine. Everything is so UNNATURAL, ROBOTIC, THOUGHT OUT, there is no spontaneity at all, not even in interpersonal relationships, not even in family!
I FRIGGING hate how they always try to objectify you but flatter you at the same time, like I'm too dumb to get that you're trying some reverse psychology trick on me! "The woman is a DIAMOND, cover yourself!" Hell no! I'm no diamond and I have NO desire to be one!
The craziest part is girls themselves who are so brainwashed that they call themselves diamonds. And I HAAAATE how they feel superior to Western women just because of some additional piece of cloth when they are the most maddeningly judgemental people I've EVER witnessed in my life!
I HATE those people who go around claiming to be FEMINISTS and following Hadith at the same time. What kind of ignorant/hypocritical idiot you have to be?!
I HATE people who defend and justify beating women. "You can beat them but NOT in the face and you CAN'T bruise them" Then what is the FREAKING purpose of beating them for God's sake!
I HATE when they say the husband can hit the wife but the wife can't beat the husband because the husband is the head of the family and he is responsible for her discipline. I mean...DISCIPLINE?! Seriously?! Like a fffffffffffffffffffreaking CHILD?! Basically the girl grows up in her family's house where she had to obey her parents, then she gets married and moves in with her husband and now she has to obey her husband. Like, can a woman ever become a real ADULT? Apparently not.
Look, I'm getting too heated so I'll stop here. But yes, I know how you feel. -
And I HAAAATE how they feel superior to Western women just because of some additional piece of cloth when they are the most maddeningly judgemental people I've EVER witnessed in my life!
Women generally tend to see themselves as morally superior to another woman, out of unconscious frustration or envy about something she may have, or she dares to do something what they also would like to do, but have not the courage to do. This ugly trait is a general female problem, not only of a special kind of muslim-women.
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YES!
I feel EXACTLY the same!
I frigging HATE them and their stupid arrogance. "If you're not Muslim you're going to Hell, blah blah blah" Who the Hell are you to make such an obnoxious condescending judgement, when the Quran clearly states that's NOT true?
I HATE how they sexualise EVERYTHING! Even a stupid handshake. My own male family members don't hug me, let alone shake my hand, just imagine. Everything is so UNNATURAL, ROBOTIC, THOUGHT OUT, there is no spontaneity at all, not even in interpersonal relationships, not even in family!
I FRIGGING hate how they always try to objectify you but flatter you at the same time, like I'm too dumb to get that you're trying some reverse psychology trick on me! "The woman is a DIAMOND, cover yourself!" Hell no! I'm no diamond and I have NO desire to be one!
The craziest part is girls themselves who are so brainwashed that they call themselves diamonds. And I HAAAATE how they feel superior to Western women just because of some additional piece of cloth when they are the most maddeningly judgemental people I've EVER witnessed in my life!
I HATE those people who go around claiming to be FEMINISTS and following Hadith at the same time. What kind of ignorant/hypocritical idiot you have to be?!
I HATE people who defend and justify beating women. "You can beat them but NOT in the face and you CAN'T bruise them" Then what is the FREAKING purpose of beating them for God's sake!
I HATE when they say the husband can hit the wife but the wife can't beat the husband because the husband is the head of the family and he is responsible for her discipline. I mean...DISCIPLINE?! Seriously?! Like a fffffffffffffffffffreaking CHILD?! Basically the girl grows up in her family's house where she had to obey her parents, then she gets married and moves in with her husband and now she has to obey her husband. Like, can a woman ever become a real ADULT? Apparently not.
Look, I'm getting too heated so I'll stop here. But yes, I know how you feel.HELL YEAH TELL EM
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Jokes aside, you should probably feel sorry for them for the way they view themselves and the way they live their life instead of feeding your ego with such negativity.
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haha zigazigha your comment made me wanna virtually high five you handshake
i have two words "internalized oppression". how any muslim woman can still follow hadith after being told she's a dweller of hell, 'deficient in intelligence', cursed by angels gosh i dont fucking know. these women love crying islamophobia but will fucking do nothing to help women suffering in muslim countries.
totally agree with the hijab thing. i stopped wearing recently, so when anyone bugs me about it i offer to show them all the articles explaining how the quran doesnt command it, infact i offer to explain them the verse itself. but NOPE, not one even wants to listen or hear. i wear a scarf around my neck and chest now. my mum bugs me to wear it but i like it too. i no longer see the hijab as a symbol of anything good honestly. i just think of all those poor women in afghanistan and saudi arabia who have no choice but to wear those thick drapes around them in the scorching heat. almost like they live in some dictatorship nest like north korea, although i think NK would force clothes on both men and women rather than just the latter.
AND I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE LOLIPOP EXAMPLE. yeah dont FRIGGIN COMPARE ME TO A STICKY CANDY.
dont men get offended by hijab too? i mean its basically telling them 'hey you're a hypersexual animal who cant control yourself'.
i actually find christian women headscarves pretty, and if i could i would have worn one of those instead. they look nice and they dont suffocate your neck, earns, chin and head unlike the so called islamic "hijab" does.
GOSH THE HANDSHAKE. IM SO GLAD I DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THAT NONSENSE ANYMORE. i absolutely hate how these muslims used mehram as an excuse not to adopt kids!!
mehram basically means dress decently (covering arms and legs at home which every muslim girl does anyway) and dont marry. they've changed this into dont touch, dont look, dont talk to each other.gahhh what century do these people live in. note how slaves allah made mehram to a woman. why, so that a woman can dress freely at home and wouldnt need to burden herself by covering it up. he wants us to be comfortable, thse people made up all this bs to make life hell and distract from peacemaking.
exactly i used to like nouman ali khan but when i saw his wife beating video and saw how he apologetically took the 'toothbrush' thing i absolutely hate him since then. yeah he can take a tooth brush and stab it in your eye and throat but thats totally halal right?
anyway sis hugsies
handshake group
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I wouldn't call it hate. "Bitter" would be the right word. You know how it feels when everyone rejects your words and accuse you of lying. How it feels when you try to alert people of impending doom but they all shrug it off and say you are going insane, they say they are worried about you and you need help.
When I first turned to Quran alone, I approached my family on sensitive areas such as death for apostasy, amputation for theft, stoning for adultery I thought they"ll at least admit the barbarity of these practices but they didn't, they tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug, urging me to ignore such sensitive matters. To my parents, I was too young and inexperienced to appreciate sharia capital punishments. Then, they'll not allow me to pray without invoking Muhammad, nor perform ablution without rinsing my mouth and nostrils. When I tried explaining this to them, they mention bringing a local Imam to explain things to me.
I had no hate for anyone but I was always in grief that despite discovering the truth, I still never my freedom.