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Is The Qur'an Created Or Not?

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    VicKus
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    What's your thought on one of the most debated issue in classical period of Islam?

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      unknownuser
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      What do you mean?

      Do you mean if it was written by the receiver or others?

      Or if it was a wahi or something else?

      Or when/how it was compiled, what century?

      For the last point whats the opinion btw? Ive read posts here saying its from 200's to 500's AD possibly?? confused confused

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        reel
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        I thought sufi school of thought was right.
        The question by the two groups is framed incorrectly.

        In my view, as long as the earth is alive, the Quran is alive for us because its job is to tell us how we can use natural law for our own benefit.

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          huruf
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          I thought sufi school of thought was right.
          The question by the two groups is framed incorrectly.

          In my view, as long as the earth is alive, the Quran is alive for us because its job is to tell us how we can use natural law for our own benefit.

          Good appreciation.

          On the other hand, this reminds me of the question of predestination.

          We unify two completely different things

          1.Our perception and capacity.

          1. God's being.

          We live in a time frame and cannot escape it, so we set everything in that frame which is the frame where the question can arise, without answer, because it involves God, who is not subject to any time frame.

          God's being is not subject to time, everything, we might put it, for Him is timeless, happens all the time, is always present. The question of being created or uncreated springs from setting a time frame.

          For us the Qur'an the text, the recitation is created for God, everything is in Him, timeless, even the bugs... and what we see as ages...

          Salaam

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            good_logic
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            Peace All.
            Hi brothers and sisters.
            A good planner has all the details mopped out before even the first stone is laid. A perfect design/planning leads to the perfect build/creation.
            GOD in His wisdom,knowledge and perfection had all His creations planned to a "tee". Qoran was part of that plan.
            Now, you may walk past a half built complex of houses/shops and you see chaos and mess,but if you look at the plan you will have an idea of the finished product. A good planner of a complex of houses /shops will see to it that the end product matches the planned picture.

            GOD is the perfect planner and His creations matches that plan to every detail.

            I will say that Qoran ,the same as all GOD s creations was planned way before any humans walked this earth. The same way everything GOD created was planned and in a" book" at GOD s.

            How far are we in that plan is only known to GOD and whoever GOD involves . For us we can only see part of the picture for now.
            Qoran explains that the whole picture will be known to us eventually. The creation is in motion as we speak and continues exactly to that plan.
            Watch this space . The future belongs to GOD.
            By the way, my trip to Africa was interesting and enjoyable. Another lesson for me towards the task of submitting to the Creator.
            GOD bless you all.
            Peace.

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              EdQ
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              What's your thought on one of the most debated issue in classical period of Islam?

              My thought is that The Quran was revealed by God to mankind through Gabriel. A reading of the Quran would be recommended to those who still doubt.

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                unknownuser
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                What's your thought on one of the most debated issue in classical period of Islam?

                I am open to hear all sides. It is important to be sincere in ones words. I will never let my conscious bend though, not to anything. Lately, Im really trusting how I feel. Trying to establish my relationship with God, not based on any book and religion or previous conceptions, but just me and him.

                ) ) ) ) ) ) ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
                It does take a while to remove indoctrination. But nothing should bar to anyone his love or mercy. ❤

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                  Noon_waalqalami
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                  What's your thought on one of the most debated issue in classical period of Islam?

                  Thought hot debate if haram to urinate standing up?

                  https//islamqa.info/en/9790

                  Alexander the great we'll kill who answers wrong!
                  Alexander the great which is older day or night?

                  Naked gymnosophist (philosopher) ?day by one day!? Alexander confused
                  Naked gymnosophist ?weird questions have weird answers!"

                  Peace!

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                    savage_carrot
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                    Thought hot debate if haram to urinate standing up?

                    You win the internet today. Thank you, I never knew.

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                      Camel Piss Hadith is still my fave eat eat

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                        EdQ
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                        Camel Piss Hadith is still my fave eat eat

                        Now I know children read this website.

                        We should try and be discreet nevertheless with our choice of words.

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          Is The Qur'an Created Or Not?

                          yes every creation is created by creator...

                          3681 Is not He Who created the heavens and earth Able to create the like of them? Yes indeed! For, He is the Creator, Knower of all acts of creation
                          peace

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