Is the Quran the word of God, or Muhammad, or Gibriel?
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I always hear how the Quran is the words of Allah, and that Muhammad received it from the angel Gibriel.
Even Ahmad Deedad and all the Muslim propagandists play the violin of "The Quran contains only the words of God." "One will only find the words of God in the Quran, the words of the prophet we find in the Hadith, and the words of historians in Historical books. (Is the Bible the word of God)
Well, as I read the Quran, I saw that I was terribly lied to, because look what I found!Look at one example of hundreds where Allah does not speak, but either Muhammad or Gibriel spoke in the Quran. Surra 91(As Shams)
By the sun and its brightness (1) here Allah swears by the stars?
And the moon when it follows it (2) And he swears by the Moon!
And the day when it displays it (3) And Allah swears by the Day and Night?
And the night when it covers it (4)
And the sky and He who constructed it (5) And the sky!
And the earth and He who spread it (6) And the Earth?
And the soul and He who proportioned it (7) And by people!!!
And inspired it its wickedness and its righteousness, (
He has succeeded who purifies it, (9) And so on....
And he has failed who instills it . (10) And so on....
Thamud denied by reason of their transgression, (11)
When the most wretched of them was sent forth. (12)
And the messenger of Allah said to them, "the she-camel of Allah or her drink." (13)
But they denied him and hamstrung her. So their Lord brought down upon them destruction for their sin and made it equal . (14)
And He does not fear the consequence thereof. (15) And so on....Guys, just check this...
And the sky and He who constructed it (5) here we have whoever speaks here swearing by the God who constructed the sky
And the earth and He who spread it (6) Here we have whoever speaks here swearing by the God who spread the earth
And the soul and He who proportioned it (7)here we have whoever speaks here swearing by the God who made manthis is now clear!
Allah does not speak here!!!
If it is allah speaking, he is swearing to a higher God!!! And If Allah swears to a higher God, who is He?
if it was not Allah speaking here, then it can only be Muhammad or the angel Gabriel!!!
if it is Gabriel or Muhammad, then you all were deceiving me in saying that the Quran contains only the words of Allah!Check Mate!
The Quran is the words of Muhammad!
You should also tell me why, for instance in Surra's 98 to 107 Allah is adressed in the 3rd person "HE"!
Did you not say that Allah in the Quran is never found to speak in the 3rd person, but first person "We" and "I"?
please explain to this simple Christian what is going on here! ) D ;DWow!
And to think that YHWH NEVER SWORE AT ANYTHING CREATED, EXCEPT BY HIMSELF! -
I always hear how the Quran is the words of Allah, and that Muhammad received it from the angel Gibriel.
Even Ahmad Deedad and all the Muslim propagandists play the violin of "The Quran contains only the words of God." "One will only find the words of God in the Quran, the words of the prophet we find in the Hadith, and the words of historians in Historical books. (Is the Bible the word of God)
Well, as I read the Quran, I saw that I was terribly lied to, because look what I found!Look at one example of hundreds where Allah does not speak, but either Muhammad or Gibriel spoke in the Quran. Surra 91(As Shams)
By the sun and its brightness (1) here Allah swears by the stars?
And the moon when it follows it (2) And he swears by the Moon!
And the day when it displays it (3) And Allah swears by the Day and Night?
And the night when it covers it (4)
And the sky and He who constructed it (5) And the sky!
And the earth and He who spread it (6) And the Earth?
And the soul and He who proportioned it (7) And by people!!!
And inspired it its wickedness and its righteousness, (
He has succeeded who purifies it, (9) And so on....
And he has failed who instills it . (10) And so on....
Thamud denied by reason of their transgression, (11)
When the most wretched of them was sent forth. (12)
And the messenger of Allah said to them, "the she-camel of Allah or her drink." (13)
But they denied him and hamstrung her. So their Lord brought down upon them destruction for their sin and made it equal . (14)
And He does not fear the consequence thereof. (15) And so on....Guys, just check this...
And the sky and He who constructed it (5) here we have whoever speaks here swearing by the God who constructed the sky
And the earth and He who spread it (6) Here we have whoever speaks here swearing by the God who spread the earth
And the soul and He who proportioned it (7)here we have whoever speaks here swearing by the God who made manthis is now clear!
Allah does not speak here!!!
If it is allah speaking, he is swearing to a higher God!!! And If Allah swears to a higher God, who is He?
if it was not Allah speaking here, then it can only be Muhammad or the angel Gabriel!!!
if it is Gabriel or Muhammad, then you all were deceiving me in saying that the Quran contains only the words of Allah!Check Mate!
The Quran is the words of Muhammad!
You should also tell me why, for instance in Surra's 98 to 107 Allah is adressed in the 3rd person "HE"!
Did you not say that Allah in the Quran is never found to speak in the 3rd person, but first person "We" and "I"?
please explain to this simple Christian what is going on here! ;DWow!
And to think that YHWH NEVER SWORE AT ANYTHING CREATED, EXCEPT BY HIMSELF!Who is this "you" that purportedly told you things? Name a name, else admit a strawman argument.
Does the Bible ever refer to the Almighty as "He?"
The Qur'an is a message. The message is intended for people. It was crafted for people, to be understood by them. The One God is the same God of all of Creation, including the things mentioned. Do you claim otherwise--is there actually some dispute here?
Unless you have been a constant partner to the Almighty, how can you say with certainty what the Almighty has sworn by? Who told you that it was okay to make such a claim? Why should anyone take what you say at face value?
In any case, your post has been addressed in good faith.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Greetings and Peace, all group
I also like the self reference in AQ.
http//www.e-bacaan.com/artikeli_godel.htm
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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using ( .. ) are not good approach..
this word usually translated as "and"
in some cases it used "by"but you used both in one sentence , i did not see two in the sentence..
i wonder why you did not give this refference for making your case
8115 So, I swear by the collapsing/elusive stars.
the alternate meanings are consider,reflect, and witness.. for
also look this
7040 So I do swear by the Lord of the east and the west, that We are able.God is lawmaker of everything including swear, oaths and witness..
we cant say that God cant swear things , he can do whatever he wishmy advise is you need more time for learning quran its not a cup of tea that get finish in two minutes..
