4min YouTube video: The So Called 'Moderate Muslims'
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Just found this video through some long muslim-bashing and hating community, and honestly, after watching the video, I can't think of any reason how any sane person couldn't agree withthem. In fact, I'm wondering how we could call ourselves Muslims when you have such idiot "brothers"... brickwall brickwall brickwall
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKGv99Fkq88
What do you think guy?
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It is funny how the majority are "walking dead". Not using any of their GOD given faculties to investigate/analyse/ponder their existance and beliefs!!!!!
Despite reading clearly verses likeGod brought you out of your mothers' bellies knowing nothing, and He gave you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brains, that you may be appreciative.
You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.
Many a generation before them, who were more powerful, we annihilated. They searched the land; did they find an escape?
This should be a lesson for everyone who possesses a mind, or is able to hear and witness.GOD also says
Those are the ones whom God has sealed their hearts/thinking..., and their hearing, and their eyesight. Consequently, they remain unaware.Qoran says once we become like deaf, dumb, and blind to the Truth. In that sense, we become like the "walking dead".
How true the words of GOD
Did they not roam the earth, then use their minds to understand, and use their ears to hear? Indeed, the real blindness is not the blindness of the eyes, but the blindness of the hearts inside the chests.
When you invite them to the guidance, they do not hear. And you see them looking at you, but they do not see.May the Lord save us from ignorance and following like sheep or worse!!!
GOD bless.
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I read a few comments and i found few of those comments was Kill all those motherf@/&ing sand &/(!#&rs and Islam has no place on the West. Even though Western goverments propped up dictator states in Middle East, Africa, Eastern Europe and South America https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States
Even Eastern goverments did same
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_Soviet_Union_or_RussiaI would like give a advice Dont put trust on any goverment, Only place guided trust on Allah/God (SWT).
Salamun Alaykum group group
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Look man, I am happy you brought up this issue. I have been saying it for long that the term 'moderate Muslim' is a polluted term. It was coined to differentiate terrorist Muslims from non-terrorist Muslims. The original meaning of moderate Muslim is one that does not approve terrorist activities like Boko Haram, ISIS or other factions that employ violence to establish sharia.
By virtue of this definition, one can be a moderate Muslim whilst still holding radical views like amputation for theft, killing apostates, holding female testimonies to be worth half of males, stoning adulterers e.t.c. As long as such a Muslim deny terrorism.Unfortunately, ignorant leftists who can't differentiate violent extremism from non violent extremism interchange the term with liberal/reformist Muslims who seek an alternative and more realistic interpretation of Qur'an from what is dictated by the clergy.
I don't consider myself a moderate Muslim like most of those in the video, I consider myself a reformist Muslim.
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Unfortunately, ignorant leftists who can't differentiate violent extremism from non violent extremism interchange the term with liberal/reformist Muslims who seek an alternative and more realistic interpretation of Qur'an from what is dictated by the clergy.
Dont forget right wingers, they dont like muslims aswell. Most of them call us vile words towel head, pedo lovers and rape advocates. P.S I dont trust left wing & right wing, both of them are biased.
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Dont forget right wingers, they dont like muslims aswell. Most of them call us vile words towel head, pedo lovers and rape advocates. P.S I dont trust left wing & right wing, both of them are biased.
Of course the rightists disapprove Muslims but they don't have the problem we are discussing. They know that the term moderate Muslim is an oxymoron and the so called moderate Muslims hold non-violent extremist views that contradict western ideals. For this reasons, the rightists unlike the leftists don't believe that the moderate Muslims can assimilate and integrate in western culture.
As much as I hate the rightist, I disapprove their methodology but respect their motive; mainly protection of their culture and values. Is that any different from moderate Muslims' protection and propagation of Sharia?
The leftists on the other hand, I just can't stand. I mean, yeah, they may appear more liberal and open minded than their cunterparts but they fail to understand that moderate Muslims while nice and peaceful individuals hold views that threaten the very liberal and secular democracies under which they operate. And thus, they support and ally with these moderate Muslims in their effort to institute sharia, which not only threaten western culture but threaten our purpose as reformist Muslims.
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As much as I hate the rightist, I disapprove their methodology but respect their motive; mainly protection of their culture and values. Is that any different from moderate Muslims' protection and propagation of Sharia?
Really? By throwing acid at muslims? http//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/east-london-acid-attacks-muslim-resham-khan-jameel-muhktar-south-asian-residents-race-hate-crimes-a7821701.html
http//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-man-acid-attack-victim-why-not-terror-attack-east-london-jameel-muhktar-resham-khan-21st-a7816331.html
That is not protection, that is terrorism and the biased media in the West are not calling it terrorism.
There is even right terror attacks in USA aswell http//www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/analysis-deadly-threat-far-right-extremists-overshadowed-fear-islamic-terrorism/
And the left-wing are not better
Left-Wing terror groups
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front
Revolutionary Organization 17 November (also known as 17N or N17)
Red Brigades
Red Army Faction (RAF)
Popular Forces 25 April (FP-25)
First of October Anti-Fascist Resistance Groups (GRAPO)
Communist Combatant Cells (CCC)
Action Directe (AD)
Japanese Red Army (JRA)
United People's Front of Nepal (UPF)
Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
Communist Party of India (Maoist) and Naxalites
Communist Party of Peru (Shining Path)
May 19th Communist Organization
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
Weather Underground
Students for a Democratic Society
Symbionese Liberation Army
United Freedom Front
And the Right-Wing terrorist group
Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (Neo-Nazi)
Contras (Backed by the United States)
The Order (A "white" nationalist also known as the Br?der Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood)
Animal Liberation Front
Alpha 66 (still existent)
Omega 7 (now defunct)
Army of God (AOG) (They are hypocrites for causing harm towards innocents)
Aryan Nations
Black Liberation Army
The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (Another hypocrite group)
Earth Liberation Front
Jewish Defense League (I call them Zionist Defense League because not all Jewish people are zionist)
Ku Klux Klan
Phineas Priesthood (Hypocrites again)
French and European Nationalist Party (Involved in the anti-Muslim terror bombings in 198
German National Socialist Underground (Responsible for the Bosphorus serial murders (2000?2006), the 2004 Cologne bombing and the murder of policewoman Mich?le Kiesewetter in 2007. In November 2011, two members of the National Socialist Underground committed suicide after a bank robbery and a third member was arrested some days later.)
Ordine Nuovo (one of groups involved in the Years of Lead perpetrated both by left-wing & right wing)
CasaPound
Blood & Honour (Far Right-Wing extremist group)
National Action (Far Right-Wing Neo Nazi)
Combat 18 (Australian Neo Nazi Far Right Group)
United Patriots Front (Australian Neo Nazi Far Right Group)
Sorry for the long post Brother of Mankind Neptin but i dont see any respect on their motive. Yes there are "moderate muslims" who propagate Sharia based off the Hadiths (even though word Sharia means law) but not all them want enforce on innocent people and most dont know about Hadith origin of Fake Sharia.
It does not give them excuse to attack muslims or anyone who is innocent who happens to from foreign countries.Look you & me Neptin we dont like right-wing & left-wing and political conflict is just opinion war on who is the best to lead country and im just that conflict.
Again apoligises for long post. I just dont like cruel wicked people.
Salamun Alaykum & Allah/God (SWT) bless you & your family everyone. group group
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Look man, I am happy you brought up this issue. I have been saying it for long that the term 'moderate Muslim' is a polluted term. It was coined to differentiate terrorist Muslims from non-terrorist Muslims. The original meaning of moderate Muslim is one that does not approve terrorist activities like Boko Haram, ISIS or other factions that employ violence to establish sharia.
By virtue of this definition, one can be a moderate Muslim whilst still holding radical views like amputation for theft, killing apostates, holding female testimonies to be worth half of males, stoning adulterers e.t.c. As long as such a Muslim deny terrorism.Unfortunately, ignorant leftists who can't differentiate violent extremism from non violent extremism interchange the term with liberal/reformist Muslims who seek an alternative and more realistic interpretation of Qur'an from what is dictated by the clergy.
No I don't think so. If anything the West has been actively supporting terrorist groups itself and is still doing it today.
To me I've seen the term 'moderate' Muslim being thrown at Muslims who have to agree with the West on everything in politics (if not most), basically becoming similar to Western apologists. Let's say you're a Muslim and you disapprove of the US invasion of Iraq or you oppose Israel then you're considered a 'extremist' Muslim regardless of how non-religious or secular you are. You basically can't disagree with others in the West on anything without being refered to as an 'extremist' by the media or others.
Of course the rightists disapprove Muslims but they don't have the problem we are discussing. They know that the term moderate Muslim is an oxymoron and the so called moderate Muslims hold non-violent extremist views that contradict western ideals. For this reasons, the rightists unlike the leftists don't believe that the moderate Muslims can assimilate and integrate in western culture.
As much as I hate the rightist, I disapprove their methodology but respect their motive; mainly protection of their culture and values. Is that any different from moderate Muslims' protection and propagation of Sharia?
What is this 'Western ideals' you're talking about? Are you aware that right-wingers in Europe don't attack Islam because they consider it inferior in terms of ethics and morals but rather because Islam is a foreign religion that originated from Arabia? It's not really about 'protecting' their culture as they say, it's because they can't stand the fact that a foreign religion that is growing exists in the West. Islam has the right to exist in the West just like any other religion does.
If anything Islam is actually superior to their 'values' because Islam teaches peace and tolerance.
Really? By throwing acid at muslims? http//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/east-london-acid-attacks-muslim-resham-khan-jameel-muhktar-south-asian-residents-race-hate-crimes-a7821701.html
http//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-man-acid-attack-victim-why-not-terror-attack-east-london-jameel-muhktar-resham-khan-21st-a7816331.html
Sick. brickwall I read about this some time ago. I hope the victims are okay and I hope that criminal behind the acid attack gets to rot in jail.
The Twitter account of one of the victims is here incase anyone wants to follow and support
https//twitter.com/ReshKay_
God bless Resham Khan and Jameel Muhktar.
That is not protection, that is terrorism and the biased media in the West are not calling it terrorism.
Totally agree with you.
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I didn't get to watch the video. But I do understand why people have problem with those who use religions to wage war. Religions are supposed to teach how to live in peace, but they are going away from that.
I have never bought into the idea of "moderate Muslim" because as I said earlier the traditional Islam is like atheism. You can believe in it whatever you want. There is no guarantee that a person will remain "moderate" because he has to believe in anything written in hadiths. It does not matter if it is immoral or moral. I am seeing some Muslims supporting the so called Muslim ban. That says a lot about their moral. Not once they thought of how people were fleeing the countries were devastated and no terrorist from those ever attacked us. The Iraqi and Syrian Christians here learned their lesson well when Trump, their idol ended up deporting their friends and families also despite the fact they were not Muslim.
Then again, there is something seriously wrong with Christianity today. I kind of understand now why so many Christians in the US are preferring to become atheist or breaking away from churches. It has less to do with rationality and more to do with embarrassment and danger. The case is much worse than what we see in traditional Islam. Its like the hardcore Christians here are now spreading the myth that education and professors are dangerous to society. They also want Trump to go after vegans and vegetarians. I am getting to see them now because of Trump's trend of how being politically incorrect is right.
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In essence, the human being is frightened, scared. When you have no peace of mind, or peace from an erratic and autonomous mind, and hence no connection to the all-connectedness of Creation, then you necessarily become fearful and see threats everywhere.
If I may generalize a bit, right-wingers are seeing a threat in all that they are not grown up with. When Islam comes, they suddenly turn Christian. They hate gays and anything that is not the majority norm. It is plain old fear. Then of course, all sorts of reasons are used as excuses for their points of view Culture, religion, freedom, welfare of the elderly, preservation of race and language, and what-not. The common denominator is however always fear, and the defense against a threat. Basically, such people's minds view the world as a place full of threats... regardless of context.
Left-wingers, in my opinion, are living in denial, which is another defence strategy of the mind. They want to believe that there are no differences among people. Forget judging.. they deny the existence of differences altogether.
An example of these groupings is Sweden, where people seem to be either left, or right, and not many in the public eye at least, are sensibly neutral and down to earth. Either you hate/dislike everything about immigrants (except the food, which is not something particularly threatening), or you insist that all immigrants are just like swedes (apart from skin color and language). Things like cultural pros and cons and habits and temperament are ignored and denied.
Either standpoint is extreme and not realistic. Right-wingers go full out on fearful defence thinking, while left-wingers go full out on willful and ignorant gullibility and naivety.
All in all it is all about FEAR. Lack of peace of mind, maturity, experience and wisdom brings fear to the mind. Then there are different ways to deal with fear, as I mentioned above... right or left, anger or denial.
Cheers )
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Really? By throwing acid at muslims? http//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/east-london-acid-attacks-muslim-resham-khan-jameel-muhktar-south-asian-residents-race-hate-crimes-a7821701.html
http//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-man-acid-attack-victim-why-not-terror-attack-east-london-jameel-muhktar-resham-khan-21st-a7816331.html
That is not protection, that is terrorism and the biased media in the West are not calling it terrorism.
By leftists or rightists, I am referring to western politicians and law or policy makers, not just random town folks. Please, read and digest my post.
There is even right terror attacks in USA aswell http//www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/analysis-deadly-threat-far-right-extremists-overshadowed-fear-islamic-terrorism/
And the left-wing are not better
Left-Wing terror groups
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front
Revolutionary Organization 17 November (also known as 17N or N17)
Red Brigades
Red Army Faction (RAF)
Popular Forces 25 April (FP-25)
First of October Anti-Fascist Resistance Groups (GRAPO)
Communist Combatant Cells (CCC)
Action Directe (AD)
Japanese Red Army (JRA)
United People's Front of Nepal (UPF)
Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
Communist Party of India (Maoist) and Naxalites
Communist Party of Peru (Shining Path)
May 19th Communist Organization
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
Weather Underground
Students for a Democratic Society
Symbionese Liberation Army
United Freedom Front
And the Right-Wing terrorist group
Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (Neo-Nazi)
Contras (Backed by the United States)
The Order (A "white" nationalist also known as the Br?der Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood)
Animal Liberation Front
Alpha 66 (still existent)
Omega 7 (now defunct)
Army of God (AOG) (They are hypocrites for causing harm towards innocents)
Aryan Nations
Black Liberation Army
The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (Another hypocrite group)
Earth Liberation Front
Jewish Defense League (I call them Zionist Defense League because not all Jewish people are zionist)
Ku Klux Klan
Phineas Priesthood (Hypocrites again)
French and European Nationalist Party (Involved in the anti-Muslim terror bombings in 198
German National Socialist Underground (Responsible for the Bosphorus serial murders (2000?2006), the 2004 Cologne bombing and the murder of policewoman Mich?le Kiesewetter in 2007. In November 2011, two members of the National Socialist Underground committed suicide after a bank robbery and a third member was arrested some days later.)
Ordine Nuovo (one of groups involved in the Years of Lead perpetrated both by left-wing & right wing)
CasaPound
Blood & Honour (Far Right-Wing extremist group)
National Action (Far Right-Wing Neo Nazi)
Combat 18 (Australian Neo Nazi Far Right Group)
United Patriots Front (Australian Neo Nazi Far Right Group)
Sorry for the long post Brother of Mankind Neptin but i dont see any respect on their motive. Yes there are "moderate muslims" who propagate Sharia based off the Hadiths (even though word Sharia means law) but not all them want enforce on innocent people and most dont know about Hadith origin of Fake Sharia.
It does not give them excuse to attack muslims or anyone who is innocent who happens to from foreign countries.Look you & me Neptin we dont like right-wing & left-wing and political conflict is just opinion war on who is the best to lead country and im just that conflict.
Again apoligises for long post. I just dont like cruel wicked people.
Salamun Alaykum & Allah/God (SWT) bless you & your family everyone. group group
I know.
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In essence, the human being is frightened, scared. When you have no peace of mind, or peace from an erratic and autonomous mind, and hence no connection to the all-connectedness of Creation, then you necessarily become fearful and see threats everywhere.
If I may generalize a bit, right-wingers are seeing a threat in all that they are not grown up with. When Islam comes, they suddenly turn Christian. They hate gays and anything that is not the majority norm. It is plain old fear. Then of course, all sorts of reasons are used as excuses for their points of view Culture, religion, freedom, welfare of the elderly, preservation of race and language, and what-not. The common denominator is however always fear, and the defense against a threat. Basically, such people's minds view the world as a place full of threats... regardless of context.
Left-wingers, in my opinion, are living in denial, which is another defence strategy of the mind. They want to believe that there are no differences among people. Forget judging.. they deny the existence of differences altogether.
An example of these groupings is Sweden, where people seem to be either left, or right, and not many in the public eye at least, are sensibly neutral and down to earth. Either you hate/dislike everything about immigrants (except the food, which is not something particularly threatening), or you insist that all immigrants are just like swedes (apart from skin color and language). Things like cultural pros and cons and habits and temperament are ignored and denied.
Either standpoint is extreme and not realistic. Right-wingers go full out on fearful defence thinking, while left-wingers go full out on willful and ignorant gullibility and naivety.
All in all it is all about FEAR. Lack of peace of mind, maturity, experience and wisdom brings fear to the mind. Then there are different ways to deal with fear, as I mentioned above... right or left, anger or denial.
Cheers
Thanks so much, Mister. You understood and supplemented by posts.
