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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    I made a thread about this - why was it deleted? Do people think carrying pork and delivering it to non-Muslims such as family is prohibited? Do people think touching pork, things that touched pork or pork packaging in prohibited, etc?

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      I made a thread about this - why was it deleted? Do people think carrying pork and delivering it to non-Muslims such as family is prohibited? Do people think touching pork, things that touched pork or pork packaging in prohibited, etc?

      this pork prohibition is the silliest invention of the religionist.

      If at all there is a prohibition in the quran it merely limits to eating pig's meat.

      There are more people eating pig's meat then ppl who don't and still there is no mighty smite from god on those who eat pork.

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        I think this site is experiencing technical difficulties

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          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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          this pork prohibition is the silliest invention of the religionist.

          If at all there is a prohibition in the quran it merely limits to eating pig's meat.

          There are more people eating pig's meat then ppl who don't and still there is no mighty smite from god on those who eat pork.

          Your logic

          • People eat pork
          • God doesn't punish people for eating pork at the moment
          • Therefore pork is allowed

          Do you realize how faulty that is? People dont get punished in this life necessarily.

          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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            Some Muslims think they'll get afflicted by nasty physical and spiritual diseases if they get within 3 feet from pork. It's basically in the head, in the mind. If you're brought up fearing pork, you'll see the world's all evil in it. It's all in the mind.

            I'm personally not eating pork, but I see large portions of the worlds population eating it, and they aren't more sick than those who don't eat it. And in any case, we stuff ourselves with so much toxins and contamination that the badness of pork probably shrink in comparison.

            What I'm saying is, that it is good to see things for what they are. If we are to avoid eating it, then carrying it or touching it isn't an actual issue. Anyone is of course free to do as they wish, but it is better not to put it on religion or on God.

            "Carrying" it is an issue because it's helping others eat it.
            You compare contamination and toxins with pig meat, but it isn't just about if it's healthy or not; those who ate contamination and toxins by accident or intentionally will not be judged on the Day of Judgement for eating it, but they will be judged for eating pig meat. So pig meat is by far more dangerous than toxins and contamination.

            In other words, when you say "If we are to avoid eating it, then carrying it or touching it isn't an actual issue"
            you also say "I will avoid what's forbidden, but I will help others commit what's forbidden". tempt

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              Ive met a sunni who said he doesnt drink but sells alcohol in his own store nope

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                Your logic

                • People eat pork
                • God doesn't punish people for eating pork at the moment
                • Therefore pork is allowed

                Do you realize how faulty that is? People dont get punished in this life necessarily.

                Welcome to the religion of Islam.

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                  those who ate contamination and toxins by accident or intentionally will not be judged on the Day of Judgement for eating it,

                  Sure? Aren't we being judged for everything we do?

                  but they will be judged for eating pig meat. So pig meat is by far more dangerous than toxins and contamination.

                  I wonder how it is dangerous... more than other meats.
                  Seems like blind faith to me, even in my case.
                  Is it about just testing your blind faith.. or is there something more to it, physical?

                  peace

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                    Sure? Aren't we being judged for everything we do?
                    I wonder how it is dangerous... more than other meats.
                    Seems like blind faith to me, even in my case.
                    Is it about just testing your blind faith.. or is there something more to it, physical?

                    peace

                    It's dangerous because pig meat-eaters are eating what God has forbidden and those who transgress while knowing, it may be their punishment in the Hereafter; Hell, extremely dangerous. We can't disregard the Hereafter.

                    Other meat is not dangerous. It's not transgression to eat cattle meat, but it's transgression when eating pig meat.

                    Everyone eats toxins and contamination everyday. It's put on every label of products that we buy. It's dangerous, but it's not transgression as pig meat is. Do you know why some products are labelled "Ecological"? They're free from toxins and contamination.

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                      Greetings and Peace, all group

                      2267 For every nation We have established rites which they are to fulfill. So do not let the matter fall into dispute. And call upon your Lord, for you are on a guidance which is straight.

                      Is eating/abstaining from eating pork a rite or not? How is it any different from carrying/delivering any other food that will be dedicated to other than the Almighty? My personal take is that it is a non-issue. We haven't been ordered to interfere with others.

                      ALLAH knows best.

                      peace

                      ~Abdul-Hadi

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                        What do people think about eating non-pork food prepared by someone who handled porky before or eating non-pork that is stored right next to pork?

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                          This is like the 5th time youre asking the same question, stop trolling

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                            This is like the 5th time youre asking the same question, stop trolling

                            Go back to the rat hole that you came from and let the long-term users discuss. The only frivolous troll I see here is you. You should be banned.

                            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                              Go back to the rat hole that you came from and let the long-term users discuss. The only frivolous troll I see here is you. You should be banned.

                              Your question is retarded, try using some common sense dipshit

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                                Your question is retarded, try using some common sense dipshit

                                You are the most disrespectful and ignorant user I have seen on this forum in over 8.5 years. You don't belong here, immature little girl.

                                To me are my deeds and to you yours. Peace be upon you, I do not seek to join the ignorant.

                                I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                  You are the most disrespectful and ignorant user I have seen on this forum in over 8.5 years. You don't belong here, immature little girl.

                                  To me are my deeds and to you yours. Peace be upon you, I do not seek to join the ignorant.

                                  peace out Mr porky

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                                    This is like the 5th time youre asking the same question, stop trolling

                                    Ignore it. That is clearly a troll question, seeking vanity at best.

                                    Go back to the rat hole that you came from and let the long-term users discuss. The only frivolous troll I see here is you. You should be banned.

                                    What a sad sight to behold with your demeaning comments towards another believer. You aren't impressing anyone, believe that.
                                    "long-term users" God can erase all your good works just like that, humble yourself.

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                                      Ignore it. That is clearly a troll question, seeking vanity at best.

                                      What a sad sight to behold with your demeaning comments towards another believer. You aren't impressing anyone, believe that.
                                      "long-term users" God can erase all your good works just like that, humble yourself.

                                      I see the white knight is here now. You blatantly ignored her insults and used my response out of context without criticizing her. I can ask as many questions as I want. She is the one who started accusing and insulting which is unacceptable. If she doesn't like my questions she can mind her own business. She doesn't belong to the forum.

                                      Seriously I haven't met a person more rude than her on this forum and I've been here since March 2009.

                                      And what have you brought to the table this far? 22 posts in and calling out members that were insulted by noobs. Humble yourself. Start respecting people on here.

                                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                        I see the white knight is here now. I can ask as many questions as I want. She is the one who started accusing and insulting which is unacceptable. If she doesn't like my questions she can mind her own business. She doesn't belong to the forum.

                                        Seriously I haven't met a person more rude than her on this forum and I've been here since March 2009.

                                        Your comments aren't getting to me, know that God is watching you.
                                        You started the insults in this thread. "stop trolling" is an insult to you? You're a joke. I don't care how long you've been here. Did I ask you?
                                        God will see to your actions, in this lifetime or the next.

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          Your comments aren't getting to me, know that God is watching you.
                                          You started the insults in this thread. "stop trolling" is an insult to you? You're a joke. I don't care how long you've been here. Did I ask you?
                                          God will see to your actions, in this lifetime or the next.

                                          Ah now you are judging without knowledge. Stop trying to act tough and to judge people. This forum is becoming a joke because of people like you and her.

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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