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    Cerberus
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    @Imran, what you say is inconsistent and incomplete. Perhaps the result of lack of understanding and wishful thinking.

    If you think sexual desires are okay, let me break it down for you even more
    When you, as a 'heterosexual' man see a woman, one that is beautiful in your perspective, and you are not awake and conscious, then satan will seize that moment and will reduce that woman into what you desire the most. So you will not see her as who she really is but you will see that illusion instead.

    Joseph sought refuge from satan, by turning to God, how ? Consciousness.
    Saying 'I seek refuge from satan' like some sort of spell doesn't work, or wishing for God's help.

    You have to actually seek refuge in God who is very close to you.

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      imrankhawaja
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      @Imran, what you say is inconsistent and incomplete. Perhaps the result of lack of understanding and wishful thinking.

      exactly you are right i am unable to make you understand what i am on about
      BTW just read the first line of my previous post you ll get what you actually asked

      If you think sexual desires are okay, let me break it down for you even more
      When you, as a 'heterosexual' man see a woman, one that is beautiful in your perspective, and you are not awake and conscious, then satan will cease that moment and will reduce that woman into what you desire the most. So you will not see her as who she really is but you will see that illusion instead.

      lets talk about this thing in which i am expert and my understanding are based on surveys of my close friends lol

      who the hell is satan to cease anything .. (God is the one who cease everything according to his will and laws) oh yeh i m not talking about ibless ...

      illusion or desire , quran or bible nothing works when sex is on height ..
      even if you say "aouz billah hey mina shaitaan irajeem" after couple of seconds illusion and desire both get reactivated ...

      99% cases people slip how hard they try to control...

      a survey of masturbution , scholars told people to say "i seek refuge in allah from the satan outcast" while thinking about it...
      99% people say the formula failed they convince that satan is powerful >D yay

      and 99% people regret after it .. as soon the illusion and desire get finish..

      now like a magician, kid is not interested in his illusion when he vanish the birds in his A** becoz he know its illusion

      what type of illusion is sex .. a person continously want to live in that illusion .. what a beautiful illusion.. if he will not find that illusion he will search for that illusion .. this desire reactivate it again even after he regret for some time...

      what the **** is this.. is satan a puzzle game ?

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        Cerberus
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        LOL yes you are correct but I explained how satan works it's no magic, no wonder people are stuck in a sin/repent cycle.

        I meant seize not cease (dammit english y u do that), satan will try to take advantage of every situation, so you have to be awake to realize that.

        The feeling of guilt is bound to happen but if you dwell on it it's satan trying to bring you down to a state of depression so you're unable to pick yourself up.

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          I meant seize not cease (dammit english y u do that), satan will try to take advantage of every situation, so you have to be awake to realize that.

          hahaha , i trust you thats why i write cease ... and now satan is here for seizefire lol

          satan is a piece of shit he even let people make spelling mistakes lol one word difference make a word to world...
          and if u know urdu one dot difference make a mehram to mujrim

          so lets not make satan successful here is shake hand handshake mistaker lol

          The feeling of guilt is bound to happen but if you dwell on it it's satan trying to bring you down to a state of depression so you're unable to pick yourself up.

          the only solution satan tells you to do it again as much as you can, after that it become a habbit for that person hence no more guilt ,no more depression

          satan actaully want to make us strong , he is our helper rotfl

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            imrankhawaja
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            i remember a strange thing.. somehow this connects with everybody else

            whenever we approach teen and ideas thoughts and body start changing..

            and the most "shaitaan" student of class teach you things what you dnt know..

            i think same thing happened with early humans they had that desire already but they dnt know how to fullfill that desire ,
            as a traditional tale talk about ibless(devil) where as quran use the word shaitan ..
            did satan tell them a secret of sex? rotfl

            as soon they finish they regret elektro at the time of disobeying they forget everything what God told them

            may b the tree was something related with high protein thing which make body hot on extreme and both start struggling untill they complete the GAME

            the satan is still with us, he is close to us.. same like God is close to us..
            both presence are the part of a Game , when the presence of God get absent in mind the presence of satan takeover the mind..

            shaitan is the one who teach shaitani acts , in humans or in jinns

            basically in short shaitan is the faulty side of human nature .. and that fault is our test we know we have a faulty part so we must not use that faulty part to harm ourselves..

            the only faulty thing what we keep from childhood untill death ..(how strange)

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              Cerberus
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              yes brother you'll know satan is always lurking if you reflect on yourself.
              However satan doesn't present itself as an enemy, or something that will cause you harm, and deceive you, and lie to you, only by being aware of yourself and following God you can see that.
              It make sense that Quran says 'satan is your enemy, so take him as an enemy', because most people don't consider satan (in the way satan manifest to them) as an enemy, but they follow him instead.
              We all have struggles we have to overcome

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                Orram
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                Please tell us more about Satan!

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                  Anyways, that kind of Satan is pathetic and has a pathetic life with purposeless whereabouts. The story about Satan in religion is pathetic in itself and no semi-powerful entity with the alleged powers which Satan is claimed to possess i.e. telepathic abilities in the form of "whispers", would be so unintelligent to pursue such as meaningless goal as to pester an inferior lifeform (the human) beyond any time frames. This Satan has absolutely no gain in his activities and surely also knows this in the religious tales. Any emotional being would terminate their own life simply knowing facts like this or rather seek reformation and hence development. God in that case would be forgiving, obviously, despite any former misconduct. The only thing preventing the reformation is delusion and this delusion is not imposed on this Satan and Satan is claimed to know the whole background. The traditional Satan only seeks retardation and is hopelessly unintelligent, unintelligent enough to not be able to convince anyone.

                  Satan, as a force, is in mankind themselves and not a separate individual. The religious Satan is just an excuse of putting the blame over the weakness of man himself upon something else, actually a nonexistent individual. Satan is just another facet of God imposed to provide a challenge to the spirit of man and the driving of Satan stems from within a component of the apparent self (the body) and not someone else.

                  Be well
                  Qarael Amenuel

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                    Anyways, that kind of Satan is pathetic and has a pathetic life with purposeless whereabouts. The story about Satan in religion is pathetic in itself and no semi-powerful entity with the alleged powers which Satan is claimed to possess i.e. telepathic abilities in the form of "whispers", would be so unintelligent to pursue such as meaningless goal as to pester an inferior lifeform (the human) beyond any time frames. This Satan has absolutely no gain in his activities and surely also knows this in the religious tales. Any emotional being would terminate their own life simply knowing facts like this or rather seek reformation and hence development. God in that case would be forgiving, obviously, despite any former misconduct. The only thing preventing the reformation is delusion and this delusion is not imposed on this Satan and Satan is claimed to know the whole background. The traditional Satan only seeks retardation and is hopelessly unintelligent, unintelligent enough to not be able to convince anyone.

                    Satan, as a force, is in mankind themselves and not a separate individual. The religious Satan is just an excuse of putting the blame over the weakness of man himself upon something else, actually a nonexistent individual. Satan is just another facet of God imposed to provide a challenge to the spirit of man and the driving of Satan stems from within a component of the apparent self (the body) and not someone else.

                    Be well
                    Qarael Amenuel

                    No ill-meaning, but satan has clearly convinced you. You keep making up stories.
                    Peace

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      shaitan and ibless are two different items..

                      is ibless a shaitan? = yes
                      is human a shaitan?= yes(almost all of them have that side)

                      did "ibless" teach you secret of sex=?
                      did shaitan teach you secret of sex= yes

                      is ibless is your enemy=?
                      is shaitan is ur enemy=yes (he cause our parents to slip from garden)

                      is ibless jealous from human= yes and he also claim he will mislead the humanity(but how long he been living)?
                      is shaitan jealous from human and ibless= yes becoz due to him both did shaitani and iblees was the opener of shaitani.. on other words ibless was the first customer of shaitan..

                      some people think atleast he told us things from which we can get satisfaction of joy and enjoyment for short time so he is our friend who teach us how to finish the struggle of sex rotfl > when u eat something that produce the sex requitement,
                      when u feeling hungry he teach you to steal the food and save ur life
                      when u feeling unsecured he teach to make profit by dishonesty otherwise honesty will f*** u up..
                      he always make a solution for humanity who the hell is he ? a friend / advice giver/ enemy a tricky basterd.. lol

                      the first experiment done by adam and mate they were the first scientists of human history hmm

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