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    khalil
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    Peace Albion

    I wouldn't take everything that is channeled as the truth rather the sender's perception as transmitted or garbled through the reciever.

    By any chance have you heared of Edgar Cayce?

    peace,

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      unknownuser
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      All those message were received via Automatic writting not voice channeling like Edgar Cayce. Automatic writting is another form of channeling but writting is used instead of voice.

      communications from the spirit world, and which were received by him without any interposition of his own mind. He also told me that while he was receiving the writings, he did not know in advance, what the next words or sentence written would be, and when receiving these writings, that he was instructed by spirits, that a necessary acquirement on his part was, that his mind must be kept in a passive and inactive state so that his own thoughts would not interfere with the messages transmitted through him and then they would be able to write the exact words and sentences that they were anxious to be made known to mankind.

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        truth
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        YANT - Yet Another Nonsense Thread.

        What style of Christianity do you follow Albion?

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          unknownuser
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          If you dont believe in channeling Truth, it means you dont believe in the quran. Because the quran was recieved that was

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            Riz
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            Yea, but the Quran was dictated by God, who is eternal, and Gabriel, who probably has a pretty long life time as well. These 'spirits' are of dead people. The dead cannot talk. We live, we die, we are resurrected again at the end. Jesus is dead, those other guys are dead. They wont be alive in anyway until the day of judgement, therefore they cannot communicate with the living.

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              unknownuser
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              http//img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/3lawssafe/frog_prince.jpg

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                unknownuser
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                Peace family

                and had charge of the sacred carpet of the great Prophet.

                the sacret carpet? wth? Now we have rocks, brass footprints, jachin and boaz, pepplethrowing and now a magic carpet. It just gets better everyday. What relegion was it that we had, said yous?

                regards
                Noah

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                  unknownuser
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                  This isn't a pickup site Noah.

                  If you want to post you picture join a muslims singles site

                  http//www.singlesites.com/Muslim_Dating.htm

                  Post you pic there Noah and you might get some takers if you lucky

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                    unknownuser
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                    This isn't a pickup site Noah.

                    If you want to post you picture join a muslims singles site

                    http//www.singlesites.com/Muslim_Dating.htm

                    Post you pic there Noah and you might get some takers if you lucky

                    No you got it all wrong. It was an insult aimed at you, portraying you as a frog with too much mouth and not enough to back it up with. Im sorry you didnt manage to get this right either.

                    regards
                    Noah

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                      Andya_Primanda
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                      All those message were received via Automatic writting not voice channeling like Edgar Cayce. Automatic writting is another form of channeling but writting is used instead of voice.

                      So that means the supposed voices write their messages themselves.

                      What kind of Muslim, even those already dead in 1915, describe themselves as 'Mohammedans'?

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                        BEING A MOHAMMEDAN
                        Ahmed Hulusi


                        Translation by Ahmed Baki

                        It may be asked, what does Mohammedan mean?..

                        Mohammed is a Servant of ALLAH. Likewise the rahmat (grace) of ALLAH be upon the entire creation, being Servant of ALLAH is about being kind to all people without considering any discrimination or any disunion among them. It means trying the most in giving people unconditionally.

                        Being Mohammedan means refraining from blaming, condemning or scorning any person for matters which are not of their choices. It means Affection; it means Love; Grace and Mercy. Being Mohammedan is to be generous!..

                        We love whether Shia or Sunni. We love whether Kurd or Turk or Arab. We love all servants of ALLAH. We do our best to serve all servants of ALLAH. We are not bound by any sets of preconditioning that people invent for their personal benefits.

                        You might be descending from a Kurdish family or from a Turkish one. You may have been raised in a Shia community or in a Sunni one. Some external factors may have preconditioned you to attach on various judgments. But, we do not mind them, at all. The only significant criteria for us is that you be a servant of ALLAH... Regardless of our places of birth, whether it is Turkey, Africa or America, each one of us is a servant of the same One, ALLAH.

                        Being Mohammedan means recognizing all people regardless of their differences. It means to love people; it means to have tolerance. Because, a Mohammedan sees "ALLAH" in hearts, in the essence of people and in their consciousness... How could you explain then, if you do not perform your sajda (prostrate yourself) before ALLAH Whom you face?..

                        People perform sajda by standing in a circle around Kaba... If you remove the walls of Kaba from between, which is in the midst of people, you will see that sajda is fulfilled toward ALLAH Who is the Reality already within people...

                        ALLAH is not a god standing up-somewhere. ALLAH IS present within all of our hearts, within our consciousness and within every atom of ours... Do you realize then, who is the One we ever dislike, we get annoyed, we disgrace or we do not tolerate and hate?..

                        My friends... Some people are aware, but some are not! None is capable of knowing everything. No one has the same opportunities of research and learning. Therefore, we should not accuse people who are not informed or misinformed on certain matters. We should not disgrace anyone! We should not look down on anyone...

                        The creation of ALLAH is infinite. Each unit of creation has its different perspective and beauty. We should try to love them all despite their mistakes, errors and deficiencies...

                        Sooner or later, everyone of us will pass away. Speaking on my part, I have already leaned the ladder of ages onto my fifties. I do not know if I will live three or five more years. We would be happy if there is someone who recites and sends a few "Kulhuwallah" (Sura Ikhlas) and an Alhamdu (Sura Fatiha) from behind and who says "May ALLAH be radhi (glad) of him!.." What a loss if we could not even attain that!

                        Infinite number of wealthy people, sultans or statesmen have all passed away in spite of all their achievements, leaving every possession behind. If they were able to make themselves remembered in charity, this is simply their gain. If they are not remembered in benevolence, they are there at loss, also.

                        People must not be accused of matters which are not results of their own decisions. This fact is common sense. Why do we still dare to charge people based on odd judgements that they are Turks or Kurds or Arabs or Gypsies orothers? How humane is this?

                        We are beings of limitlessness, created within the Science of Allah. We take part for short temporal periods in this world. Maybe tomorrow in an unexpected moment we will depart from this world. What kind of a reasoning can we have if we have turned life into darkness, caused it to be unendurable and full of grief for each other, and if we destroyed each other in a world we stay for such temporal periods?..

                        If you want to understand Islam, look at Mewlana Jelaluddin, look at Yunus Emre, look at Hadji Baktash Wali! Look at Ahmed Yasewi! There are so many people of insight, spiritual understanding and mystery to pay attention to. They are representatives of Islam and they represent what being Mohammedan is... Those who watch out and criticize the physical position of your body during your prayers, who question your style of dressing or your shirts with short sleeves or your not wearing nightcap in a mosque and who accuse you of such reasons, are quite unaware of Islam.

                        Consider and understand those great people who share the same insight, if you want to learn Islam and understand the thought system of Islam.

                        When I say "I am Mohammedan," I mean, I am one of those who meet people with grace regardless of their belief, religious order or path they follow.

                        Prophet Ibrahim is the ancestor of Mohammed Mustafa. Let me tell you a story about him to conclude my remarks...

                        As might be known, Prophet Ibrahim is well-known for his generosity (kerem). He would not ever eat alone without someone sharing his meal. One evening after he prepared his dinner as usual, he noticed that there was nobody to eat with him. He was all alone and he prayed his lord, saying "Oh Rabbi! Please, send me a guest to share my meal as I haven't got anyone to join me in my meal.."

                        And Prophet Ibrahim's prayer was accepted at the sight of Truth (by Janab Haqk). Before long, he heard someone calling from outside "Is there someone inside?"

                        Jumping out of his place, Ibrahim opened his door "Welcome," he said upon seeing an old man outside. "Come in, please! Sit down for some food!"

                        The old man stepped in and then they sat to eat together. Saying "Bismillah," (in the name of Allah) Prophet Ibrahim took a slice off bread. And the man too reached to the bread and cut off a piece.

                        "Oh, no," said Prophet Ibrahim. "Don't you say 'Bismillah' before you begin eating! You should mention the name of Allah! Mention the name of Allah who gave all this food for us!.."

                        The man, so old with a beard down to his belly, said "But, I do not know your lord. Who is he?"

                        Prophet Ibrahim said, "This is unacceptable! How can I share my food with someone who does not recognize ALLAH, and denies Hu!"

                        Those words broke the old man's heart. "OK then," he said. He stood up and walked out...

                        After the old man had left, Prophet Ibrahim received a revelation (wahy) by ALLAH, right away

                        "Oh Ibrahim! (Don't you see) I have been allowing my servant live for more than a hundred years, though he only denied me so far. I have not driven him away from my door even once (I have not stopped providing him with food)... How could 'you,' only a servant of Me, send him back?"

                        Ibrahim jumped out of his place all at once and rushed to the man, saying "O! Come! Even if you do not know Hu! Come back! I was warned by my Lord because of my attitude toward you. "

                        The man asked "What happened that you changed your mind?" Ibrahim repeated what he had been informed, and begged the man "Please, for Allah's sake, come on, sat with me and share my meal." The old man said, "Is this what your Lord talked to you?" Ibrahim said, "Yes, my Lord said so." Then the old man said, "Your Lord is really a great and an exalted Lord. Then I believe in your Lord..." They then sat at the meal and ate together...

                        http//www.ahmedbaki.com/english/books/excerpts/booklet_eng_moh.htm

                        One difference between those who call themselves Mohammedans seems to be the concept of Universary Love. This concept seems to have been lost by those who call theselves muslims.

                        Being Mohammedan means refraining from blaming, condemning or scorning any person for matters which are not of their choices. It means Affection; it means Love; Grace and Mercy. Being Mohammedan is to be generous!..

                        We love whether Shia or Sunni. We love whether Kurd or Turk or Arab. We love all servants of ALLAH. We do our best to serve all servants of ALLAH. We are not bound by any sets of preconditioning that people invent for their personal benefits.

                        I notice that concept of Universal Love is missing from many muslims. Even many of this forum

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                          unknownuser
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                          peace albion

                          Do not confuse the concept of love with simpleton new age vibes. Yo uhave been told off quote a few times, and that is just people being honest about what they feel about the stuff you post here. Myself included. Honesty is love, falsely pretending that we agree with your very narrow world view is not.

                          That i tell you to your face what i think about you, without using obscure language is an expression of thyat very universal love

                          And besides that, who might you be to pass on judgement like that?

                          regards
                          Noah

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                            zenje
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                            Peace Noah,

                            It was an insult aimed at you, portraying you as a frog with too much mouth and not enough to back it up with.

                            Please tone it down with the "insults", and try to exercise more patience. Just a reminder... I tend to fall into that trap now and again also. oops Sometimes it's best to step aside/ignore. There's more constructive work to be done.

                            Take it easy.

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                              unknownuser
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                              peace Zenje

                              You speak the truth oops

                              Regards
                              Noah

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                                jonny_k
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                                Yea, but the Quran was dictated by God, who is eternal, and Gabriel, who probably has a pretty long life time as well. These 'spirits' are of dead people. The dead cannot talk. We live, we die, we are resurrected again at the end. Jesus is dead, those other guys are dead. They wont be alive in anyway until the day of judgement, therefore they cannot communicate with the living.

                                Khi- Salam.
                                Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of GOD, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.
                                Do not think that those who are killed in the cause of GOD are dead; they are alive at their Lord, enjoying His provisions.
                                GOD Bless!

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