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The beginning of Creation

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    Zulf
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    When we think of how Creation was initiated, religious people generally refer to holy texts that give accounts that typically cannot be verified. Atheists tend to refer to scientific theories about e.g. Big Bang and such.

    When we read the Quran we come to the verse 2920, which is translated as

    Pickthall
    Say (O Muhammad) Travel in the land and see how He originated creation, then Allah bringeth forth the later growth. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
    Sahih Intl
    Say, , "Travel through the land and observe how He began creation. Then Allah will produce the final creation. Indeed Allah, over all things, is competent."
    Yusuf Ali
    Say "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation for Allah has power over all things.
    Arabic

    To me, it says that if we just roam the world and investigate it, we can reveal how Creation was initiated, i.e. through the method and disciplines of science, we can learn about how Creation was brought forth into existence.

    This means that there is no need for holy texts or mythology, which religion tends to be all about, in regards to this topic.

    Any thoughts on this?
    The Quran seems to disfavor mysteries and other things religious people say we simply have to have faith in (blind).

    Peace

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      Anoushirvan
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      Salam,

      Creation in question has nothing to do with Big Bang and such.

      It has all to do with the creation and destruction of past civilizations and their legal system.

      There are numerous verses that end like this

      "so travel through the land and observe how was the end of those who denied"

      See a list here http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=syr

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        good_logic
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        Peace Zulf.
        You mean our creation?
        There is evidence in Qoran of a period of evolution for mankind?
        710
        We have established you on earth, and we have provided for you the means of support therein( provisions). Rarely are you appreciative.

        711
        We created you, then we shaped you, then we said to the angels, "Usjudu before Adam." They Sajadu except Iblees; he was not with the Sajedeen

        For me there are two periods the creation period ( Bashar) then the shaping period ,evolution of Man,to become (Insaan). The test started after the shaping .
        327
        He is the One who perfected everything He created, and started the creation of the human from clay.

        328
        Then He continued his reproduction through a certain lowly liquid.

        Therefore Science and seeking answers through searching our origin is a normal curiosity for us to find out how GOD started our creation. Indeed we can also search how GOD created our universe and why through investigation/Science.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          Jafar
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          To me, it says that if we just roam the world and investigate it, we can reveal how Creation was initiated, i.e. through the method and disciplines of science, we can learn about how Creation was brought forth into existence.

          This means that there is no need for holy texts or mythology, which religion tends to be all about, in regards to this topic.

          Agree..

          The True God's True Sign is spread all over this universe.
          The sign which cannot be faked or manipulated by human (usually for political purposes)..

          God's revelation hasn't ended... it's continuing until today and up to the future...
          Those who state that God's revelation has ended does that for his individual or group ambition. And to keep his servant and slave loyal to him (or them) they created myths and religion...

          All falsehood shall be revealed...
          Seek and you shall find... ASK and it shall be answered..
          Those are the 'promise' of the True God..

          Now regarding the creation and this universe..
          We now know that this universe contains trillion of galaxies, where each galaxies contains trillion of stars..
          We now know that Gods or Deities living in 'heaven' above the cloud doesn't exist..
          We now know that Human evolved from some other carbon based living being..
          We now know that Carbon was created inside the (exploding) star..
          We now know that this universe is very old.. 13.8 billion of earth years..
          We now know that 99.99% of such time, human didn't even exist..
          We now know that this universe might not be the ONLY universe... there can be others..
          We now know that this universe seems to be a 'hologram'.. a 'virtual world'... due to the revelation of black hole which sucked up time and space, discrete orbit of electrons and the revelation of quantum teleportation which proves that space (and time) might not be 'real' at all...

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