Post what you believe is a contradiction in the Quran and let's see the answers
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You can find in internet enaything you wish for, There are millions of pages written on that, particular by written by the victors and their handlers. Given your views, I know that no matter what is said you have already ordered the world past and to come as you say it should be, monogamnous to the dot even if it means its end.
Anothet thing you seem to price a lot is love for marriage. So where is love where you import or export men for owmen who are in shortage (or viceversa if it were the case).
As to people, men and women, coming to Paraguay after, I said so to start with, so you are not discovering anything that nulifies that fact. I do not care how improper you find the number of women who survived the war. It is absurd that you say they were many. They were very few, but since men were almost nil the proportion of women to men was very high, over ten to one. You say they should not have bred. Just those who could catch some 13 year old or some over seventy and the very few in between whould have bred to your liking. If you were there, I am sure nobody would have forced you into marriage, but you were not there. Those who were there were Paraguayan women and they did want children. That to you may be a sin, but they owed nothing to you nor to anybody else nor did they force anybody, so your opinion stays your opinion, and today's Paraguayans who are a very mixed and patriotic people are very proud and grateful of those women who kept the nation alive, and even having many ancestors of foreign origin, they still revere the women of that time and their history.
As to the upkeep of the children... well everywhere in any country there are women who keep up their children even being married or even there being plenty of men around. So when there are no men around it is better for women to live and die childless so that even there won't be anybody to keep them company when they are old and die... Hopeless. On the other hand, Paraguayan women were used to get into business and carry their own undetakings before the war as they have done after. From that point of view tghey were no as helpless, save of course for the fact that ev erything was in shambles and there was nothing to trade or do right after the war. The occupants took everything away.
As to lack of men, the victors did take many Paraguayan men prisoners into slavery into Brazil. Those same Brazilians would then have sent men for Paraguayan women? Nice joke.
You seem to be in the delusion that same number of males and females is guaranteed for ever and for any situation, place or time but as it happens God has not imposed on Himself to keep up such a condition under all time, place or circumstances, even if you will deny to death that that happened and may happen. Monogamy seems to be holier than God.
Fine, you wont get into polgamy even if the world were to end because of it. Fine, you are responsible for yourself, but other people are responsible for themselves and act in their circumstances not in those you imagine for them.
And please do not turn this into me supporting poligamy. I uphold completely the marry the single, except where there are no singles to marry for too many people for it to be feasible. You cannot ask 90% of the people to keep virgin all their life or not to breed, or 80% or any number. Or rather, yes, you can ask them, but do not be disappointed if they do not oblige. If there is a proper way to arrange for families under those conditions, why should the worship monogamy ratgher than family? They are responsible for themselves and nobody should decide for them.
For the few men, many of them maimed in the war, the situation of course was not a comfotable one. Dismal poverty, no future and no help. They did what they could. They lived that time and not a happier or more restful one. But Paraguay, survived, even if monogamy was not worshipped for a little while.
Salaam
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peace, wanted to finalize issue with the magicians different "dialog" was with (3) groups and each converted.
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Does God need to be served? Does God need anything in fact? No. Does he want to be served? No. That, we may do to other people if we have a pact of any sort with them. God is not a creature, what we do with respect to Him is like nothing we would do for any creature or thing. We may know of the usefulness of anything we do for somebody or something else. We do know God does not need a damned thing from us or from anything or anybody else, but we need to do or be something with respect to Him, for our own sake and what we should do in the first place is acknowledge our true nature and it is that we are contingent creatures who only exist because there is a God that make them exist, and from there follows everything else. God tells us the ways by which we can fulfill our nature. If we want to serve ourselves we will follow God's teachings so that we can live in Reality and not in vain dreamings. We are not solving God's problems or fulfulling His needs, but ours.
We may serve somebody who exacts from us certain services and still dislike that person and feel enmity towards her or him, but we cannot do that with God, that is, we can, but then it will avail us nothing.
Salaam
An English translation of the Quran 5156 I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to serve Me.
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An English translation of the Quran 5156 I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to serve Me.
actually u did not get what sister huruf meant to be..
let say human being is not serving God.. and what exactly hes doing= ?
indirectly or directly hes serving God its another matter how you perceive the word "serve" its actually an interpretation of word "ibada" when poet and lyrics makers use this word "ibadat" in songs it totally give us a different meaning than worship
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Peace imrankhawaja.
your wrote below now with added comments
"peace abdun nun (this is not my name (correct - Abdun Nur))
as expected u did not translate that for me but u refer it to another person let me make it easy for the readers
"there is no god except for the one who does not engagge in worship" (this is not a correct quote, you cannot even manage that simple task)
first of all you are relying on someone else interpretation (I know this is hard for you to grasp but references are the key, not who wrote the referenced work, I know this may be a difficult concept for you to get your head around) and moreover the person is not showing the method how he translate (the work is fully referenced). i have a good memory but i want you to remind my nonsense once again you call me half wit (about 2 yrs ago, and two years later nothing has changed) and my nonsense remarks in the first reply of yout post but dnt worry i will not say you a blind follower in return so plz try not to use this langauage again specially when we are dealing complicated things. (do not refute through logical fallacies this makes you look like a retarded moron, instead refute the references that arrive at the meanings, if you are struggling with what a logical fallacy is I can explain, but I would imagine you found not be able to comprehend.)
NOTE i asked from bk anwar lot of times lot of things out of which he hardly give any answer to my questions i feel he is struggling in finding answers" (Is Badar your personal linguistic investigator? otherwise he's very busy doing his job, family life and working on things he finds most pressing)
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"peace abdun nun (this is not my name (correct - Abdun Nur))
ok corrected with brackets {this is not my name (correct - Abdun Nur)} you dnt have manners of using brackets such a manner less attitude i corrected it properly and how you interpret your correct name ?
"there is no god except for the one who does not engagge in worship" (this is not a correct quote, you cannot even manage that simple task)
yeh i did not because after requesting again and again u did not give me the translation so i just put your understanding of word "allah" who does not engagge in worship
now u have a chance to complete this simple task.
(I know this is hard for you to grasp but references are the key, not who wrote the referenced work, I know this may be a difficult concept for you to get your head around) (the work is fully referenced).
so thats what i was asking from him to provide me a method what he apply to his translation by which reference? its very simple
(about 2 yrs ago, and two years later nothing has changed) and my nonsense remarks in the first reply of yout post but dnt worry i will not say you a blind follower in return so plz try not to use this langauage again specially when we are dealing complicated things. (do not refute through logical fallacies this makes you look like a retarded moron, instead refute the references that arrive at the meanings, if you are struggling with what a logical fallacy is I can explain, but I would imagine you found not be able to comprehend.)
now here we Go i was expecting this kind of "burning" attitude from you ...
yes you are right after two years your arrogance did not changed much , say BK anwar to interpret 49 11 for you hope it will help you , i send a ref 2 years ago but i think you dnt beleive in literal translation of 4911 and also not applying on you while talking with other people... do u have any idea how funny it was in that post two years ago... u said me half wit without giving me a reason infact i remember i did not even ask anything from you on that post ,
in my area this attitude is the symbol of madness/insanity if somebody just abuse somebody for no reason..
once an arrogant always an arrogant ..
atleast see the forum rules its in plain english
and yeh forget about logical fallacy learn one important thing from me first i.e
the manner how to reply a post by quoting it how i did it here...(Is Badar your personal linguistic investigator? otherwise he's very busy doing his job, family life and working on things he finds most pressing)
rotfl oh no not mine
he is doing a favor on humanity to provide a correct translation and you are backing him up seems he is your personal ( ) fill the brackets by suitable word whatever fits...NOTE i know more abusive words than u can even imagine. i can also use it here without any fear of getting bullet in my head cox i know u cant send me a bluetooth bullet police ... but i never wanted to use those abusive words
reason is, i atleast understand the message behind 4911 hope you also learn it one day... -
Peace imrankhawaja,
the reference were provided, you have not the interest or ability to use them to verify or refute yet feel able to arrogant pass judgement, you abuse yourself through the utter ignorance of your written comments, i have no need to do or write anything abusive.
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peace Abdul nur (translated as servant of light) am i correct .. ? i write l instead of n does it change any meanings
anyway my post is the cause and effect of the ur words and your arrogant behaviour .. its a human psychology if you say him retarded moron, half wit.. then he will definately say you things in return.. instead of putting flowers in your neck..
remember the newton third law of motion ;D
ok coming back to topic
as expected instead of translating the simple task you again show your natural behaviour..
we started from "there is no God expect ( )" the brackets parts according to BK anwar is Allah mean who doesn?t engage in worship
so i said is it how you translate There is no God ( except the one who doesnt engage in worship) if you think i did not translate it correctly then you can do it for me please.. then we will proceed talk..
i have no need to do or write anything abusive.
you already did it.. ask forgiveness from the one who does not engage in worship peace
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I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp imrankhawaja, but "There is no God." the one who doesn't engage in worship is you, me everyone not your delusional God idea, see how lost you are and so should refrain from comment, it seems you have a limited intellect and commenting becomes pointless, I'm giving you good advice, the mind is like a muscle the less it is used the weaker it becomes, maybe you should start to train your weak mind.
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I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp imrankhawaja, but "There is no God." the one who doesn't engage in worship is you, me everyone not your delusional God idea, see how lost you are and so should refrain from comment, it seems you have a limited intellect and commenting becomes pointless, I'm giving you good advice, the mind is like a muscle the less it is used the weaker it becomes, maybe you should start to train your weak mind.
Red is there any mention of that in Quran? Blue Please don't be like that, that could cause a quarrel.
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Salam dear brother Noon in that verse the arabic word illa (ا is used as a restriction particle. I got that info from Quranix.org. What does that mean brother Noon?
Salam Noon sorry if i sound demanding but i'm still waiting for my answer. Take your time though.
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@ sardar " some people have no manners whatsoever you tell them it will not change their state of arrogance" they are deaf dumb and blind due to the disease what they have in their heart"
@ Abdun nur
so here we have a new translation
there is no God except ( me you and everybody)
elektro
go home mate get some haircut done. may b cold air will change ur intellect
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Salam Noon sorry if i sound demanding but i'm still waiting for my answer. Take your time though.
peace, ill/except/apart from/but/only/other than -- appears 600+ times use "context" same meaning as first appearance...
28 and among the humankind who speaketh believe we of in the god and in the day the last and not themselves are believers 29 deceiving the god and the ones believes they of and not deceiving ill/except souls theirs/themselves and not realizing 210 in hearts theirs illness so enhanced them the god illness of and for them punishment dire in what be they of lying
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peace, ill/except/apart from/but/only/other than -- appears 600+ times use "context" same meaning as first appearance...
28 and among the humankind who speaketh believe we of in the god and in the day the last and not themselves are believers 29 deceiving the god and the ones believes they of and not deceiving ill/except souls theirs/themselves and not realizing 210 in hearts theirs illness so enhanced them the god illness of and for them punishment dire in what be they of lying
Blue Isn't the arabic word for only is inna?
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By the way that i forgot to mention that Proto-Indoeuropean root word was from brother/sister Aries https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609658.30
Well expect this part of course which is this
Personally i believe it's ged- because there are verses in Quran that speak about Allah (SWTAY) unites us like in 3103 & 863.
3103WaiAAtasimoo bihabliAllahi jameeAAan wala tafarraqoo waothkurooniAAmata Allahi AAalaykum ith kuntum aAAdaanfaallafa bayna quloobikum faasbahtum biniAAmatihiikhwanan wakuntum AAala shafa hufratinmina alnnari faanqathakum minha kathalikayubayyinu Allahu lakum ayatihi laAAallakumtahtadoona
And hold firmly to the rope of God, all of you, and do not be separated. And remember the blessing of God upon you when you were enemies and He united your hearts. Then you became, with His blessing, brothers; and you were on the edge of a pit of fire and He saved you from it; it is thus that God clarifies for you His signs that you may be guided.863
Waallafa bayna quloobihim law anfaqta mafee al-ardi jameeAAan ma allafta bayna quloobihimwalakinna Allaha allafa baynahum innahu AAazeezun hakeemun
And He made unity between their hearts. And if you had spent all that is on the earth, you would not have united between their hearts, but God united between them. He is Noble, Wise.Just letting you know i am not linguistic expert the Arabic language. So i leave it the experts like Noon or Imran. Salamun Aleykum. group group
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Peace imrankhawaja,
now is it good manners to continually miss quote someone, then you are surprised when they point out you are unintelligent?
quote - "so here we have a new translation
there is no God except ( me you and everybody)" this is why you are taken as an imbecile no other reason.
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Umm by the way guys, quranix.org doesn't use correct arabic grammar.
I was talking to a Sunni until he told me that the Arabic verse i shared with them wasn't even written correctly. What a bummer, there did my chance go.
So don't use quranix.org as evidence since it's arabic is a little off.
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peace Abdun nur
members can clearly see who is unintelligent and confuse.
his first claim Allah = who doesnt engage in worship
his sec claim Allah = me and you and everybody
waiting for third =height of ignorance
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Blue Isn't the arabic word for only is inna?
inna "indeed"
anna ?an inna / that indeed"
an "lest/that" (use context)
in "if/not" (use context)
see prior examples, one group of magicians asked...
7113 and came the magicians Firaun said they of inna/indeed for us surely reward of if be we are we the victors?
7114 said yes and surely you surely among the near beingwhile another group asked...
2641 so when came the magicians said they of to Firaun is there for us surely reward of if be we are we the victors?
2642 said yes and surely you then surely among the near being -
peace Abdun nur
members can clearly see who is unintelligent and confuse.
his first claim Allah = who doesnt engage in worship
his sec claim Allah = me and you and everybody
waiting for third =height of ignorance
More like confusion to be honest. No offense brother Abdun Nur.
