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Punishment for Rape?

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    HP_TECH
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    Salaam 'Alaikum,
    The punishment for adultery is 100 lashes according to the Qur'an. So we must do that for the rapist and not stone to death.

    Okay, so a guy rapes a child of 4 years old and brutally murders that child, for him is 100 lashes too? And we all know guys like this will commit the sin again if they get 100 lashes because these criminals will absorb this 100 lashes for their next "Rape Journey" to satisfy their desires.

    Majority of the people says death to these guys, and I agree with most of these cases too.

    What's your opinion on this?

    100 lashes is not easily survivable.
    It's really in the Hand of God if you live or not after.
    It is a HEAVY punishment
    Research very well what 100 lashes can do before thinking about adding punishments God has not decreed.

    Also in the scenario you describe the criminal would receive the 100 lashes then would have to pay blood money to the family and the family can decide whether they want the life of the criminal or they forgive him. The lashes might just kill hi, before however.

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      It's clear that the 100 lashes are not meant to kill. In chapter 24, the cuckolding wife and the man she cheated with are said to no longer be able to marry a believer - only an idolater or another cuckolder. Also, lashing someone 100 times to kill them isnt just a death penalty, it is also torture.

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        huruf
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        100 lashes is not easily survivable.
        It's really in the Hand of God if you live or not after.
        It is a HEAVY punishment
        Research very well what 100 lashes can do before thinking about adding punishments God has not decreed.

        Also in the scenario you describe the criminal would receive the 100 lashes then would have to pay blood money to the family and the family can decide whether they want the life of the criminal or they forgive him. The lashes might just kill hi, before however.

        That is point that I have pondered some times. Exactly what are those 100 or 80 lashes, or floggings or stripes? Is it surely that?

        I sort of wonder, because although I am convinced that these ayas have the purpose of cleaning believers slander and carrying tales, still, even if once in a century would be applied and it is what you, HP-TECh, depict, seems reaaly heavy.

        That is why I think that there is in it more than catches the eye immediately. In fact it amounts to torture and a very cruel one. May be it spurpose is to deter people from accusing, apart from the 80 lashes, also because flogging publicly in such a way is not precisely a pretty sight and so the idea of it, might also deter people from accusing or gossiping.

        Salaam

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          armom
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          100 lashes is not easily survivable.
          It's really in the Hand of God if you live or not after.
          It is a HEAVY punishment
          Research very well what 100 lashes can do before thinking about adding punishments God has not decreed.

          Also in the scenario you describe the criminal would receive the 100 lashes then would have to pay blood money to the family and the family can decide whether they want the life of the criminal or they forgive him. The lashes might just kill hi, before however.

          Thanks for your explanation.

          That depends, is that 100 lases with whip or stick?

          If with whip, that's survivable. And how do we know whether it's whip or stick lashing? and if stick is it light stick or heavy stick?

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            HP_TECH
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            You know progressive may be right, maybe 100 lashes is not sufficient to kill someone.
            However I still think the each lash should be very painful and who ever is caring out the duty should not go light at all.

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Wow! Wakas (or a different mod) just censored my last post calling him out and posting evidence. It was moved here. He threatened to ban me and claimed I was making "unevidenced misogynistic generalizations." I then posted evidence for these so-called "mysogynistic generalizations." These so-called "mysogynistic generalizations" were really just me saying that there are many cases in which women falsely accused men of rape. In fact, our very own forum member, Huruf, has done that against me because she couldnt follow my argument and question, and perhaps also because she was being emotional.

              In a different thread I said that women tend to be more emotional than men, and that men tend to be more logical than women. Again, this is a fact which can be looked up and for which I am willing to provide plenty of evidence for those that are too lazy to do research for facts that go against their cultural and political views.

              I had presented a long list of news articles about false rape/sexual harrasment cases to provide evidence for the "unevidenced mysogynistic generalizations." Wakas (or a different mod) deleted the post.

              Good job, Censored-Minds AKA Closed-Minds AKA Feminist-Minds.

              If I get banned, you know that it was because of a censoring, power-tripping moderator. Also, do not confuse anti-feminism with hatred of women. May your search for knowledge end up in taking action to serve God, and not in debating about logical fallacies, debating whether salat is 2 hours or 1 hour, and neither in telling people to re-read their gibberish several times when they do not agree with your view.

              Take care.

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Mist
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                In a different thread I said that women tend to be more emotional than men, and that men tend to be more logical than women. Again, this is a fact which can be looked up and for which I am willing to provide plenty of evidence for those that are too lazy to do research for facts that go against their cultural and political views.

                http//78.media.tumblr.com/4c9949290ee3033a4a869f301d07d6fe/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o1_400.gif http//78.media.tumblr.com/b3381ceed57cd842f65f9d1637a75f49/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o2_400.gif

                You're more emotional and illogical than women for one, LOOOL.
                Never seen a "man" gossip this much hatred about women. Get your absurd sexist claims outta here.

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                  The_Sardar
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                  Please everyone calm down. Let us try have a reasonable discussion here.

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                    HP_TECH
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                    http//78.media.tumblr.com/4c9949290ee3033a4a869f301d07d6fe/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o1_400.gif http//78.media.tumblr.com/b3381ceed57cd842f65f9d1637a75f49/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o2_400.gif

                    You're more emotional and illogical than women for one, LOOOL.
                    Never seen a "man" gossip this much hatred about women. Get your absurd sexist claims outta here.

                    God I hope you're black

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                      Mist
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                      God I hope you're black

                      I am. It's funny how I forethought that you'd comment that.
                      If you're still in doubt we can skype or whatever but get your $25 dollars ready. Let's gamble.

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                        HP_TECH
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                        I am. It's funny how I forethought that you'd comment that.
                        If you're still in doubt we can skype or whatever but get your $25 dollars ready. Let's gamble.

                        Why would I bet on that?
                        Let's bet that I'm blacker than you.

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                          Mist
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                          Why would I bet on that?
                          Let's bet that I'm blacker than you.

                          Thought I'd make quick buck from that opportunity.
                          &lol, mehhh I'll pass on that.

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                            savage_carrot
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                            Review in progress.

                            Please start a new thread if needed and read the Forum Rules https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8177.0

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