Lets look at this all over again shall we?`

unknownuser

This is very deep and very real...Are you aware that on the grounds of the Washington Capitol, there is a statue of a gentleman named Albert Pike. Look up who Albert Pike is and hopefully more of this will make sense. The mafia and the KKK (freemason organizations) all trace back to this man named Albert Pike. The masonic headquarters is coincidently also on the grounds of the Washington Capitol. Why is that? But please look up this man named Albert Pike, who they say had more power than US Presidents!!! He has hospitals and elementary schools and highways as well as colleges named after him. Is it true that the White House was named after illuminati founder Adam Weisehaupt (pronounced, wise-howt). Weisehaupt means "white chief".

This is how powerful Albert Pike was...He laid down the blueprint of 3 World Wars for the New World Order to come into fruition. Secret societies exists bigtime!!! This is an exerpt from his writings pertaining to the World wars. This was written in the 1800s!!!

The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." 2

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion?We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Jews and Arabs. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

http//www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm

Now start to think family. Anything you think sounds familiar here?

Regards.
Br.Noah

unknownuser

And we continue God willing.

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Dagon & Isis
The fish symbolises the sign of Pisces and also the legendary King of Babylon, Nimrod, who was depicted as a fish. The dove symbolises his partner, Queen Semiramis, and it is more reverse symbolism. While the dove means peace to most people, it symbolises death and destruction to the Brotherhood. This reversing allows them to use their symbols in the public eye in a way that no-one understands. Sinn Fein, the political wing of the Provisional IRA in Northern Ireland, has a dove as its symbol for this reason

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The Dove
It is this dove symbolism which gives us the fictitious name of Christopher Columbus who in fact used to sign his name Colon. The name Columbus was invented as yet more Brotherhood symbolism. The Romans used to worship a deity they called Venus Columba, Venus the Dove. Venus and dove are associated with Queen Semiramis in Babylon. The word dove in French today is still Colombre. Columba is also an 'Aphrodite' goddess which symbolises the negative, death and destruction, aspects of the female energy.

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Columbia
Hence we have British Columbia, Columbia Pictures, Columbia University, Columbia Broadcasting (CBS), the Space Shuttle Columbia, and District of Columbia in which they placed Washington DC.

You've only got to look at some of the names for places around Washington to see where their originators were coming from. The most obvious is Alexandria just over the border from the District of Columbia, in Virginia (the virgin queen - Isis, Semiramis). And, by the way, look at the logos of those Columbia organisations. Columbia Pictures has the lady holding the lighted torch, Columbia University has the lighted torch, and Columbia Broadcasting (CBS) has the eye, the all seeing eye.

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Royal Sceptres
Doves can be seen standing on Maltese crosses on the sceptres held by the Queen of England in her ceremonies. Sceptres and rods were symbols of power in ancient Egypt.

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Crowns
There are Maltese crosses on the crown of the British monarch.

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Maltese Cross
The Maltese or splayed cross was found in caves in the former Phoenician lands of Cappadocia, now Turkey, dating back many thousands of years to the Phoenician occupation at least and it became the cross of the Knights Hospitaller of St John of Jerusalem (Knights of Malta), the Knights Templar, and the Nazis.

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German Insignia
If you look in this picture at the Nazi soldier you will see that he has the whole set - the Maltese Cross, the reversed swastika, the skull and bones and the eagle!

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Party Logos
Three major symbols of the Brotherhood are the lighted torch, the red rose and the dove. The symbols of the three main political parties in the United Kingdom which serve the structure headed by the Queen are the lighted torch (Conservatives), the red rose (Labour) and the dove (Liberal Democrats)! Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.

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Laurel Branch ~ Wreath
The laurel leaves in the United Nations symbol are mirrored by the Freemasons and there are 33 sections in the circle. The logo is blue, a Freemasonic colour, as in the Blue Degrees of Freemasonry. The symbol of the European Union is also blue. The inspiration for the 'frame' around the UN logo can be easily seen in the Freemasons symbol.

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Double Square
The double square, one square on top of another in any form, is more secret society symbolism. In the secret language, one square by itself means control of what is right and just. From this we get phrases like "fair and square" and a "square deal". One square on top of another means control of all that is right and all that is wrong, all that is just and all that is unjust, all that is positive and all that is negative. In other words "we control everything". The double square, or eight pointed star, can be seen in the lobby at the heart of the British Parliament and a long list of world police forces surround their badge with the same symbol.

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Chevron
The chevron is another version of this you need to look at this as symbolic of two three-dimensional boxes, one above the other, and not as one-dimensional 'ticks'. This is the logo of the Brotherhood oil company, Chevron, and the other oil and transnational corporations are a maze of symbols featuring the secret language of the force which controls the world.

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Double Cross
The double cross of the House of Lorraine is the origin of the phrase to 'double cross' someone, to manipulate them. This same symbol can be found in the Rockefeller-guided oil giant, Exxon.

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Oil Companies
Texaco has the pentagram inside a circle with the T square of Freemasonry. The symbol of Atlantic Richfield Oil (ARCO) is a pyramid with the capstone missing looked at from above and Amoco has the lighted torch.

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Sun Life
Look at the names of some of the Brotherhood's insurance companies Sun Alliance, Sun Life, Britannic Assurance, Eagle Star. The Sun Alliance building in Piccadilly Circus, London, is decorated with two pillars, two flames, and a statue of Britannia (Barati of the Phoenicians) holding her circle and cross shield, the ancient Sun symbol! Note also the names given to space craft, military aircraft, and naval ships like Hermes, Nimrod, Atlantis, and Columbia. All symbolic to the Brotherhood.

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Fleur-de-lis
The Fleur-de-lis is another ancient symbol which is widely used today, particularly by royalty, and you find it on the fences around many buildings. It can be found on one of the gates to the White House.

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France
It was used by the Merovingians in France and, apart from its connection to them, it symbolises the Babylonian god Nimrod, and Lilith, the name symbolising the reptilian bloodline.

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The Rose
The red rose is another Brotherhood signature.

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Rosy Cross
The Rose is often displayed with or on a cross.

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Baal - Bel - Belial - Bell
The bell, as in the American Liberty Bell, is symbolic of Bel, Bil or Baal, the Aryan Sun god of the ancient world.

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Bell Correlation
An interesting set of circumstances? The picture is the Bell (Baal) County Courthouse in Texas, located in Belton (Baal-Town). The dome or bell tower (Tower of Baal or Ba-bel) on the courthouse was recently restored by Campbellville Industries (Camp Baal?). Near the Baal County courthouse is the Bail (Baal) Bondsman. Baal Town is the county seat and one city in a triune city metroplex; it's sister city is Temple. (Temple of Baal County) The other member of the triune is Killeen (Killing?); site of the infamous Killeen Massacre, where a crazed (Baal mind controlled) man murdered 24 persons in a cafeteria on a Killeen spree. Baal Killeen is home to the mind-control facility known as Fort Hood. This area of Texas is approximately 30 miles from Waco (hueco - the hole or depression) which is the site another massacre, performed by the Liberty Bell Choir or ATF against David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. Waco is also the home of Baylor Illuminati Training University. The prophets of Baal certain won in Texas over its Elijahs.

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A Dime
The most obvious symbol of the Brotherhood's intent is the fasces, from which we get the word, fascism. You can see it at the bottom of a United States 'liberty' symbol and in the Congress Building.

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Fasces
It was a symbol used widely in the Roman Empire and it consists of rods bound together around an axe. This axe is the origin of the term Axis Powers for the fascist countries in the Second World War. The symbolism is of people and countries bound together under a common centralised dictatorship, the axe. That is a perfect description of the European Union in which the nations of Europe are subordinate to common laws decided and imposed by the unelected dictatorship in Brussels. The European Union is truly a fascist state in accordance with the fascist symbol.

Regards
Noah

omar_e19

Peace Noah,

Thanks for sharing...wow, this definately cannot be coincidental. Just one question, what are your views on Ike's and other theorists' ideas about the reptilian humans, whom they claim most of the Illuminati are? I say this because of a very interesting observation, regarding Layth's article on the Jinn which you can read at free-minds under the articles section.

Layth concludes that the Jinn are reptilian creatures, decendents of the dinosaurs who are more advance than the human race and who envy us for being God's inheritors of the earth as per 230. However, this doesnt mean they are all evil... I did some research on the net and there is tons of talk, especially from the history of past civilizations of a reptilian like human race... I just couldnt help but see the striking similarities between layths' thorough analysis on the Jinn and what David Ike has to say about the reptilians...

Having said that however, I do not fully support Ike's theory which as you said is probably exaggerated and over done in some aspects...But I did like Layth's analysis and we must always keep an open mind. Anything is possible wink

Peace

Omar

unknownuser

Peace Noah,

Thanks for sharing...wow, this definately cannot be coincidental. Just one question, what are your views on Ike's and other theorists' ideas about the reptilian humans, whom they claim most of the Illuminati are? I say this because of a very interesting observation, regarding Layth's article on the Jinn which you can read at free-minds under the articles section.

Layth concludes that the Jinn are reptilian creatures, decendents of the dinosaurs who are more advance than the human race and who envy us for being God's inheritors of the earth as per 230. However, this doesnt mean they are all evil... I did some research on the net and there is tons of talk, especially from the history of past civilizations of a reptilian like human race... I just couldnt help but see the striking similarities between layths' thorough analysis on the Jinn and what David Ike has to say about the reptilians...

Having said that however, I do not fully support Ike's theory which as you said is probably exaggerated and over done in some aspects...But I did like Layth's analysis and we must always keep an open mind. Anything is possible wink

Peace

Omar

Peace omar.

I think Icke is a charlatan, as simple as that. He takes a serious, though strongly christian new testament beliver, researcher like Jordan Maxwell and try to use his knowledge to sell of a relegious dogma of infinite love. And he declared himself Jesus on national Brittish tele some 10 years ago.
That said however, his webpage is full of Maxwells, and to some extend his own research, and all that i have checked so far match up. This is why i keep insisting that we are in a state where we need to chose wich system we want. The new world order IS comming fast!

Either it is the established world, thus the order ab chaos system, or it is Islam. They do not compute together, unlike what most wants to belive out of comfort alone.

As for reptiles... well i like this saying. The mind is like a parachute, it works best if its fully open. I see a lot of reptiles through history, and i can see layths point from the Quran. But i have never actually met one, so it remeains speculation. And therefore i primarily focus on the people that i can see. Like the Bushes, the Rotschilds, the rockefella. Not out envy, trust me, i want NONE of what they have, not in this life nor the next. But they are clearly the vehicle for an agenda that has been going for a long time now, is accelerating and about to erupt into something really nasty. Especially the rotschilds, and the royal family's. Do you think they came to power because they were nice? Add to this 500+ years of inbreeding, and you have someone with a mindset that might not be to sound.

Or in simple terms (im a simple man). If you have a killer dog, and let it breed with its own bloodline through 500 years, you end up with a very sick little puppy. I have no reason to trust these people for that reason alone. But look into their financial interrests, youll be amazed what the "royals" really are into, and WHO they are, be they reptiles or not.

We need to wake up, instead of throwing verses at eachother about homosexuality and how we can incorporate Islam into the west, we need to step back and start to look at the REAL bigger picture here. And honestly i hate to be a whistleblower, but i am, with the rideculement and social retardment that comes along with it.

Regards
Noah

unknownuser

Peace

why do people ignore me? You are welcoem to say that im insane, you know. 72 views and only 1 had the nuts to answer. My question has not changed. You may feel holyer than thouh in this current system, because your humble towards God. Then howabout adopting his system, the natural republic?

Symbolism is just a way to spot where stuff comes from, the real problem is a system that is based on usury, interrest, money and terms. Money have become everybody's master, instead of a usefull tool. And if you accept it as is. good luck with your master.

there are no moderate Islam, there are just Islam, and its incompatible with the current system, nomatter how annoying that makes things.

So you can stay away from the bank system, only, here in denmark you cant. ITS LAW, to have a bank account, this is a trend adopted from EU.

You have to pay taxes, to pay for a never ending debt to the private financial institutions that originally lend the state its own money back, and made fortunes. Today they are mainly based on the bank of england model. Only, "the bank of "insert state"" are privately run organisations, the name is just to lend it legitimacy in the public. And hey it sorta works, why bother about it. Well...either usury or not, no both ways!

We are all cog's in a gearbox, and you can chose to be one, or you can chose to malfunct, so the lie runs less smoothly. But honestly im disapointed with you, most refuse to even concider these things, because it shatters their worldview. Seeking the truth is altso the willingness to accept that your own might be wrong.

Regards
Noah

omar_e19

Peace Noah,

I honestly support your cause. However, the single biggest problem for us right now is we have no plan and we dont exactly have unity. Talk is dandy and all but unless we get going and actually do something then talk about choosing or rejecting a system is a fruitless waste of time. Ive tried addressing this issue broadly in my post "beating around the bush" which you probably read and was disappointed at the lack of cosntructive suggestions and working towards implementing a strategy. But hey, I can understand how we are all busy with our own lives....Im so loaded with exams, and social commitments at my own local front here in Ottawa that I dont have the resources at my disposal to do anything substantial.

We have to start talking more about how we can pool our resources together.....and honestly I dont see anything happenining of any meaningful substance unless we join together under one banner and hold an international conference that addresses where we wish to go from here. We need to start thinking that we are God's party. Thats's the paradigm we need to use as our model...Doesnt God say he always supports His party against all others? We have to strive and believe that God can make us His vehicle of justice and good in this world if we are truly committed wink So we can all do our own little bit by hammering it in. It starts with the simple question SHOULDNT WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT??

See Im on this Anti Arab racism conference planning committee...And we all know how monsterous the obstacles are for progress in teh Arab world on all fronts...its mostly due to their own faults cause Arabs tend to be very apathetic about anything that doesnt give them immediate gratification i.e, money...infact for most Arabs the word "volunteering" doesnt exist in their vocab. So one of our activist sponsors, an Arab professor, said that he will have nothing to do with supporting us until we actually add the words "Stop complaining. Start Contributing" to our student organization's logo. (S.C.S.C.) Thats the philosophy that gets you somehwere. I mean its common sense no?

Peace.

Omar

Someone

Peace Noah, omar and all

I don't want to dwell into this sort of conjecturing, but let me bring some points that may widen the view.

1- What you have presented is basicaly conjecture. Surely, the signs they use are facts, but the conclusions drawn from it are merely conjecture.

2- The worship of "our valiant ancestors" is common, you can find it in any culture. The western world at these times happens to be the strongest, thus we find ourselves in the middle of all these signs, pertainning to the "valiant roman ancestors".

3- Until someone can show a specimen of this reptile/human race, it's as real as X-men or Donald duck.

4- For the "pyramid signs", they try to include the pharaonic civilization in their list of "valiant white roman ancestors", but from what I have seen, almost all the statues showing egyptians of that time, all the statues are missing the nose, as if someone is trying to hide the fact that they were black people. Moreover, the shape of the hair give more proofs of this.

5- And for taking control of the world, remember Napoleon, Cesar, Hitler, Pharaon, and many more who have not the "honour" to be known as these ones. Where are they right now? Does what they have acquired benefit them in any way?

6- Finally, you have to know that these people cannot have a common goal, even if they seem like a block, but each of them is following his own desires, they cannot unify.

Put your trust in the god, he is the best in scheming, he's the knowledgeable, the wise.

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unknownuser

Peace Noah, omar and all

I don't want to dwell into this sort of conjecturing, but let me bring some points that may widen the view.

Peace. what conjecture?

1- What you have presented is basicaly conjecture. Surely, the signs they use are facts, but the conclusions drawn from it are merely conjecture.

what parts of it?

2- The worship of "our valiant ancestors" is common, you can find it in any culture. The western world at these times happens to be the strongest, thus we find ourselves in the middle of all these signs, pertainning to the "valiant roman ancestors".

And the romans, and those that inspired them are not around as society's anymore, do you know why?

3- Until someone can show a specimen of this reptile/human race, it's as real as X-men or Donald duck.

agree

4- For the "pyramid signs", they try to include the pharaonic civilization in their list of "valiant white roman ancestors", but from what I have seen, almost all the statues showing egyptians of that time, all the statues are missing the nose, as if someone is trying to hide the fact that they were black people. Moreover, the shape of the hair give more proofs of this.

where do this come from?

5- And for taking control of the world, remember Napoleon, Cesar, Hitler, Pharaon, and many more who have not the "honour" to be known as these ones. Where are they right now? Does what they have acquired benefit them in any way?

Do you know waht they have in common? Rotschilds, go look it up. With the exception of cesar and pharao. But according to another ald book, at the time of ceaser, manoychangers where a problem back then too. And its the same money changers as back then, and thats why the symbolism keeps reapering. Who have the money to have large monuments built? Mr, and mrs. jones?

6- Finally, you have to know that these people cannot have a common goal, even if they seem like a block, but each of them is following his own desires, they cannot unify.

They seems to be quite good at it though.

Put your trust in the god, he is the best in scheming, he's the knowledgeable, the wise.

I do but that does not mean im just going to lean back and accept the moneygrubbing system, that alway shwere the same, and always where blamed by those send to us. Because if i do. I will make the same mistake as those in the past, and have learned nothing.

Regards.
Noah

Ps Omar, im still thinking about what you wrote, answer will come.

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Someone

Peace Noah,

For me, these signs have the same function as flags, showing that one is from this or that camp.

The sign of fire relates to a time when making fire was a hard task, not everybody was able to make fire. They should had some sort of recipient to keep a sustained fire and avoid it being off. It was of high priority. Now it is a meaningless spot, merely esthetic.

The obelisk in ancient times had its importance. It was a tool to measure time and to know seasons. Now it is used merely for extravagance.

The pyramid was the only way to make high buldings, since rocks are heavy, and not any other structure could support the weigh. And surely, if you are on the top, you would have a wider view of your surrounding.

Each one of these signs had its signification back then, it was all logic, no paranormal or mysticism attached to it.

Also, there's more than 200 pyramids in Soudan, rarely talked about.

You can find meanings for the other signs, but you have to put them in their historical context.

And finally, You, me and all the others are the by-product of this past that you seem rejecting. We are here discussing this because of all the events that had passed with the righteous and the not-so-righteous people. You see, it has not produced only evil things.

So, who is the best in scheming?

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unknownuser

Peace Noah,

For me, these signs have the same function as flags, showing that one is from this or that camp.

The sign of fire relates to a time when making fire was a hard task, not everybody was able to make fire. They should had some sort of recipient to keep a sustained fire and avoid it being off. It was of high priority. Now it is a meaningless spot, merely esthetic.

Peace someone

Yes, and those that had that knowledge became elevated in society, soon they became priets. And today it represent being on top of the social food chain. Just like back then.

The obelisk in ancient times had its importance. It was a tool to measure time and to know seasons. Now it is used merely for extravagance.

bu the same ones that still use the fire as a symbol. that particular fire that is.

The pyramid was the only way to make high buldings, since rocks are heavy, and not any other structure could support the weigh. And surely, if you are on the top, you would have a wider view of your surrounding.

and that is the very symbolism and why you should want to be on top, in the symboliv pyramid. The symbol is still videly used by those who altso still use the fire and the obelisk. None of these wich btw, has anything to do wtih rome, or the culture of rome as such. Besides that, its not true that thsoe where the only high buildings people could build, in your first post you tant to connect it to come. Colloseum?

Each one of these signs had its signification back then, it was all logic, no paranormal or mysticism attached to it.

mate there were formed relegions around them? no signfigance? omg..you took the blue pill didnt you? And today all of th?se symbols represent someone, being futher up the chain of knowledge than others., Did anyone know back then how to builkd pyramids? No, only the stone masons. Did anyone back then know how to make obelisks, no, only the stone masons. and so on.

Also, there's more than 200 pyramids in Soudan, rarely talked about.

wich is a shame, really.

You can find meanings for the other signs, but you have to put them in their historical context.

I am, and i know about the historical context. You however should try and understand their modern context. And why they keep reareaping all over the world, in the trail of certain people.

And finally, You, me and all the others are the by-product of this past that you seem rejecting.

Im not rejecting anything but the present.

We are here discussing this because of all the events that had passed with the righteous and the not-so-righteous people. You see, it has not produced only evil things.

Yeah this group pretty much has. there nothing good about unless you count dead structures, unfair trade, cheating and monopolising good. I could easily live without a car and a tv to get rid of those.
You see, the returning symbolism, and those evil things come together. Now you need to ask youself...why?

So, who is the best in scheming?

God, i never claimed otherwise. I know that they scheme and God schemes. But i repeat, that does not mean im just going to lean back and do nothing and accept they sceheme, now that i can both see and know about it.

Regards
Noah

D_C

Hi everyone....

Sorry for the late reply.... got a internet problemos

Just saying that I'm giving Noah right in his statement, since there are to many signs that indicate, they exist..... What they are really up to and who they are, there's a lot of theories...... Don't ask me....

Well... I just giving Noah some links... For some useful reading

This link show the connection between Nazi's and The Freemasons...
http//www.blackraiser.com/nazorig.htm

Links of reports of freemasons ( I only took the Istanbul bombings )
http//english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D7D22755-3425-4BF3-BC6C-6969D409DF49.htm

http//www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-03/10/content_313358.htm

List of the famous freemason ( This webbage is from their Grand Lodge of England )
http//www.province.org.uk/famous.htm

And the last link shows you their names in different countries and where they are... ( Taken from den Swedish Freemasons )
http//www.frimurarorden.se/eng/grand_lodges_in_amity.html

This Link is kinda old.... But it shows u persons in picture, who they are ( I think )... Note to Noa also a picture of the Danish Freemasons ...
http//srjarchives.tripod.com/1997-08/Ciaug.htm

I think is alot of fun to read those stuffs personally....

Someone

Peace Noah, all

The solution for the problem you are exposing is in your last post KNOWLEDGE.

One has to strive to acquire more knowledge of the world around, with the laws governing it. It's the way to not get fooled by some "magicians", and moreover, to be able to survive and sail smoothely over the torrents. (jannatin tajri min tahtiha al-anharou)

How many of us know how to make fire without a lighter?

How many know how to produce or find our food, without going to the malls or groceries?

How many know how to build their house?

How many know how to heal themselves from minor illnesses?

and more...

This is where I believe I should spend my time searching and studying. It is simple to say that I am against this or that system, but are we able to survive without the confort it brings?

To make it simple, when one knows how to make a fire, he can choose to light up the way for others in the dark, or instead, to burn those who has different opinions than him without a right.

But for the one who doesn't know, he is at the mercy of the one that knows. And not everybody wants to KNOW, copying is much simpler for the majority.

This life is a test, it is not meant to be easy, unless for the ones that straighten their relation with the "all" and bring forth the necessary purifications. So you don't have to lean back, there is many knowledge and work out there.

PS. is it of any benefit to research this kind of conspiracies?

unknownuser

Peace Noah, all

The solution for the problem you are exposing is in your last post KNOWLEDGE.

One has to strive to acquire more knowledge of the world around, with the laws governing it. It's the way to not get fooled by some "magicians", and moreover, to be able to survive and sail smoothely over the torrents. (jannatin tajri min tahtiha al-anharou)

How many of us know how to make fire without a lighter?

How many know how to produce or find our food, without going to the malls or groceries?

How many know how to build their house?

How many know how to heal themselves from minor illnesses?

and more...

This is where I believe I should spend my time searching and studying. It is simple to say that I am against this or that system, but are we able to survive without the confort it brings?

To make it simple, when one knows how to make a fire, he can choose to light up the way for others in the dark, or instead, to burn those who has different opinions than him without a right.

But for the one who doesn't know, he is at the mercy of the one that knows. And not everybody wants to KNOW, copying is much simpler for the majority.

This life is a test, it is not meant to be easy, unless for the ones that straighten their relation with the "all" and bring forth the necessary purifications. So you don't have to lean back, there is many knowledge and work out there.

PS. is it of any benefit to research this kind of conspiracies?

peace all. I thought i wasnt going to post again but, being the dramaqueen i am i will. Thank you D.C im looking at it

As for you someone. We are on excactly the same page, you just put it in much simpler terms. This way of life as we know it is going to go 2 ways.
1.turn into hell
2.abolish

And then knowing how to take care of yourself will be the only knowledge worth having. the year 2008 to 2012 will bring changes none of us can belive. No im not a prophet or a messenger, far from it, im lower than any of you with knowledge. But i have done my homework into the occult, what they belive in and what calender they use. There IS a brother hood, there IS a conspiracy, but at the end of the day. What is important is as you rightly claim. What CAN i do when #### hits the fan.

Regards
Noah

Psand i still owe omar a response, but unifying seems beyond aour capability at this point. All i can do and do, is awakening others to reality as it really is, and that is step 1. Next is teach them how to survive, and this is something i myself is in the learning process.

unknownuser

Peace be u pon you Noah and all,

Yes, David Icke, Ive read a few of his books, well not entirely, but I've seen most of what you have written here. Yes, symbolism is VERY REAL and VERY OLD. All of it comes from the Oldest Philosophy of ancient Kemet(Egypt), but it deals with "knowledge of SELF" (Know Thyself). It is the same thing that this reading(quran) deals with and it is what all readings worth reading deal with. There are people who have this philosophy and are doing wicked things with this knowledge, because it is indeed very powerful. But many of the understandings of the symbolisms put forth are incorrect, based on this philosophy. I am not sure if David did that purposely, or if he just has not done his research properly.

One example which I will give is his theory of "reptile humans". Does anyone here no one? I don't expect any answers. The "reptile" understanding which he got wrong is based on the spiritually imature persons reliance on the reptilian brain, the oldest and first brain that humans have. The Mamalian Brain covers that and then the Cerebrum, which seperates the Human from reptiles and mammals. Its about BEHAVIOR, not about alien beings. There is much to say about this, but It woild take a long time and I am not sure people are interested in this line of discussion. But just realize that the whole "snake" tempting "Eve" is also another symbolism of this "reptile" brain. We are here to transcend the reptile and mammla brains, many do not do this and that is why this reading(quran), says that they are just like CATTLE(animals).

omar_e19

Peace Idolfree,

I have read the concept of using the the reptilian brain and find it a more plausible theory...I simply outlined the similarity in the conclusion made with layth about a reptilian race that is visible to humans and mingles amongst them. Peace,

Omar

unknownuser

peace all

I too think icke is putting forth some halfbaked arguments, and i think it is to sell his newage relegion that makes everybody God, wich would make him part of the misinformation league.. If you want to get more into it here is a good starting point.

http//www.hermetics.org/ebooks.html

However it is important to look into what runs society, and has shaped it the way it is. And the symbols tell a tale if you now how to decipher them.
As for the reptillian brain, thats a viewpoint, but none of us knows. It could be another race aswell, being that they where created before man. So first God created man with a reptillian brain and then he regretted and created man with a mammal brain? I dont get it?
Im open to possabilities, and try not to get stuck with any one explanation that i cannot confirm for myself.

reagards
Noah