What is Al Asar?
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No, I already elaborated on the part where I said that "he adhers to the traditional research background", so you simply repeat the same conclusion you made before. But yes, he does adher to tradition for doing so.
Me reading or not the book has nothing to do with critical thinkin, especially after I asked you to bring specific pages where author possibly yet unlikely proves me what is personally interesting to me, which means I am always ready for alternative opinion, but so far his work has been worthless to me.
Problem is i don't remember the pages, as i said it's has been awhile since i read Book 1, i am currently reading Book 2 Road to The Patriarch.
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What do you mean harsh? Did you checked the verses before & after?
2190
Waqatiloo fee sabeeli Allahiallatheena yuqatiloonakum wala taAAtadooinna Allaha la yuhibbu almuAAtadeena
And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.2191
Waoqtuloohum haythuthaqiftumoohum waakhrijoohum min haythu akhrajookum waalfitnatuashaddu mina alqatli wala tuqatiloohum AAindaalmasjidi alharami hatta yuqatilookumfeehi fa-in qatalookum faoqtuloohum kathalikajazao alkafireena
And kill them wherever you encounter them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. And do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them, thus is the recompense of the rejecters.2192
Fa-ini intahaw fa-inna Allahaghafoorun raheemun
And if they cease, then God is Forgiving, Merciful.2193
Waqatiloohum hatta latakoona fitnatun wayakoona alddeenu lillahi fa-iniintahaw fala AAudwana illa AAala alththalimeena
And fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is for God. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.2194
Alshshahru alharamu bialshshahrialharami waalhurumatu qisasunfamani iAAtada AAalaykum faiAAtadoo AAalayhibimithli ma iAAtada AAalaykum waittaqoo AllahawaiAAlamoo anna Allaha maAAa almuttaqeena
The restricted month may be met within the restricted month, and what is unlawful may be met with retaliation. Whoever attacks you, then you shall attack him the same as he attacked you; and be aware of God, and know that God is with the righteous.2195
Waanfiqoo fee sabeeli Allahi walatulqoo bi-aydeekum ila alttahlukati waahsinooinna Allaha yuhibbu almuhsineena
And spend in the cause of God, but do not throw your resources to disaster. And do good, for God loves those who do good.I hope this clears things. Salam/Peace dear brother group
So peace until what is unlawful may be met with retaliation? So once you see someone doing something unlawful you meet him with retaliation until he attacks you so then you can lawfully attack him?
So...
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This is an anlawful month.
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You find a guy drunk on the street, who broke fasting
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Retaliate him with whatever you believe is a sanctioning retaliation for this crime
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The guy pushes you away
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You have the right to attack him after he 'attacked you' after you sought 'retaliation' against him?
Correct?
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Problem is i don't remember the pages, as i said it's has been awhile since i read Book 1, i am currently reading Book 2 Road to The Patriarch.
All right. But if you find something of particular interest, namely if the Jewish people came not from Egypt, which I too believe is likely, then how exactly was Judaism acquired among the Southern Arabic tribes, let me know. Thank you.
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So peace until what is unlawful may be met with retaliation? So once you see someone doing something unlawful you meet him with retaliation until he attacks you so then you can lawfully attack him?
So...
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This is an anlawful month.
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You find a guy drunk on the street, who broke fasting
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Retaliate him with whatever you believe is a sanctioning retaliation for this crime
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The guy pushes you away
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You have the right to attack him after he 'attacked you' after you sought 'retaliation' against him?
Correct?
I am sorry but how exactly is finding a drunk & breaking fasting is a physical unlawful? The phrase "Whoever attacks you, then you shall attack him the same as he attacked you; and be aware of God, and know that God is with the righteous." is also important. To be honest it's quite obvious that it is about self defense.
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All right. But if you find something of particular interest, namely if the Jewish people came not from Egypt, which I too believe is likely, then how exactly was Judaism acquired among the Southern Arabic tribes, let me know. Thank you.
I recommend looking for a guy called Pazuzu in the forum, he's actually the author of Arabia The Untold Story. Although he is no longer active in the forum.
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I am sorry but how exactly is finding a drunk & breaking fasting is a physical unlawful? The phrase "Whoever attacks you, then you shall attack him the same as he attacked you; and be aware of God, and know that God is with the righteous." is also important. To be honest it's quite obvious it's about self defense.
What is meant by The restricted month may be met within the restricted month, and what is unlawful may be met with retaliation.?
Is unlawful only during the 'restricted month' or always? And what the phrase be met within the restricted month mean?
What is unlawful by the way? Haram?
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I recommend looking for a guy called Pazuzu in the forum, he's actually the author of Arabia The Untold Story. Although he is no longer active in the forum.
I know who the author is, as I said I was already introduced to his thesis before. But I never recieved an answer what is of particular interest to me.
And why did he leave the Quran alone community?
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I know who the author is, as I said I was already introduced to his thesis before. But I never recieved an answer what is of particular interest to me.
And why did he leave the Quran alone community?
I sadly don't know.
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What is meant by The restricted month may be met within the restricted month, and what is unlawful may be met with retaliation.?
Is unlawful only during the 'restricted month' or always? And what the phrase be met within the restricted month mean?
What is unlawful by the way? Haram?
It never said unlawful only in the restricted month. And about the phrase "be met within the restricted month mean", well to be fair i am not sure but it should a topic for discussion though.
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It never said unlawful only in the restricted month. And about the phrase "be met within the restricted month mean", well to be fair i am not sure but it should a topic for discussion though.
Exactly. Then how can you be sure to point out these obscure verses without having a crystal idea of what they mean and being able to anwer the possible side questions associated with those verses?
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What is meant by The restricted month may be met within the restricted month, and what is unlawful may be met with retaliation.?
And also about the unlawful may be met by retaliation well this is what i can answer, may not answer for you but i will try
Salamun Alaykum Brothers & sisters of mankind. group
Im little bit suprised no one show the verses before and after 929
Here are the verses
91 A revocation is made by God and His messenger to those with whom you have made a pledge from among the polytheists.
92 Therefore, roam the land for four months and know that you will not escape God, and that God will humiliate the rejecters.
93 A declaration from God and His messenger to the people, on this, the peak day of the Pilgrimage "That God and His messenger are free from obligation to those who set up partners." If you repent, then it is better for you, but if you turn away, then know that you will not escape God. Promise those who have rejected of a painful retribution
Note from Edip Yuksel in this verse The verse 95 does not encourage muslims to attack those who associate partners to God, but to attack those who have violated the peace treaty and killed and terrorized people because of their belief and way of life.
According to verses 95 and 911, the aggressive party has two ways to stop the war reinstate the treaty for peace (silm), which is limited in scope; or accept the system of peace and submission to God (islam), which is comprehensive in scope; it includes observation of sala and purification through sharing one's blessings. These two verses refer to the second alternative. When, accepting islam (system of peace and submission) as the second equally acceptable alternative and when the first alternative involves only making a temporary peace, then none can argue for coercion in promoting the Din.
The Quran does not promote war, but encourages us to stand against aggressors on the side of peace and justice. War is permitted only in self-defense (See 2190; 491; 532; 819; 607). We are encouraged to work hard to establish peace (4735; 856; 220. The Quranic precept promoting peace and justice is so fundamental that a peace treaty with the enemy is preferred to religious ties (872).
Please note that the context of the verse is about the War of Hunain, which was provoked by the enemy. The verse 929 is mistranslated by almost every translator.
Furthermore, note that we suggest "reparation," which is the legal word for compensation for damages done by the aggressing party during the war, instead of the Arabic word jizya. The meaning of jizya has been distorted as a perpetual tax on non-Muslims, which was invented long after Muhammed to further the imperialistic agenda of Sultans or Kings. The origin of the word that we translated as Compensation is JaZaYa, which simply means compensation, not tax. Because of their aggression and initiation of a war against muslims and their allies, after the war, the allied community should require their enemies to compensate for the damage they inflicted on the peaceful community. Various derivatives of this word are used in the Quran frequently, and they are translated as "compensation" for a particular deed.
Unfortunately, the distortion in the meaning of the verse above and the practice of collecting a special tax from Christians and Jews, contradicts the basic principle of the Quran that there should not be compulsion in religion and that there should be freedom of belief and expression (2256; 490; 4137, 140; 1099; 1829; 8821). Since taxation based on religion creates financial duress on people to convert to the privileged religion, it violates this important Quranic principle. Dividing a population that is united under a social contract (constitution) into privileged groups based on their religion contradicts many principles of the Quran, including justice, peace, and brotherhood/sisterhood of all humanity. See 2256. For a comparative discussion of this verse, see the Sample Comparisons section in the Introduction.
Moral rules involving retaliation can be classified under several titles
The Golden Rule Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The Silver Rule Do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you.
The Golden-plated Brazen Rule Do unto others as they do unto you; and occasionally forgive them.
The Brazen Rule Do unto others as they do unto you.
The Iron Rule Do unto others as you like, before they do it unto you.
Empirical studies on groups have shown that the golden-plated brazen rule is the most efficient in reducing negative behaviors in a community abiding by the rule, since the rule has both deterrence and guiding components. Game theorists call this rule "Generous Tit-For-Tat" (GTFT), a rule that leads one party to cooperate as long as the other party does too. If the other party cheats or hurts the party adopting GTFT, then the GTFT-adopting party stops cooperation and retaliates, while demonstrating willingness to forgive the wrongdoing and start a new stage of cooperation. This positive tilt successfully leads the other party to seek cooperation of the GTF party and ultimately adopt the same rule of engagement. The Golden rule, on the other hand, does not correspond to the reality of human nature; it rewards those who wish to take advantage of the other party's niceness. Therefore, though the golden rule is the most popular rule on the lips of people, it is the least used rule in world affairs. It might have some merits in small groups with intimate relations, but we do not have evidence for that.
The Quran is a book of reality, and its instructions involving social issues consider the side effects of freedom. Thus, the Quran recommends us to employ the golden-plated brazen rule. "If the enemy inclines toward peace, do you also incline toward peace" (861; 490; 4134). Other verses encouraging forgiveness and patience in the practice of retaliation (2178; 16126, etc.), make the Quranic rule a "Golden-plated Brazen Rule," the most efficient rule in promoting goodness and discouraging crimes.
Sunni and Shiite mushriks inherited many vicious laws and instructions of violence through hadith books, most of which scholars trace their roots to the influence of Jewish Rabbis and Christian priests who supposedly converted to Islam. Here are some samples of terrifying and bloody instructions found in The Old Testament. We recommend the reader to study them in their context
"The Lord said to Moses 'Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. Say to the Israelites If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.... Then Moses spoke to the Israelites, and they took the blasphemer outside the camp and stoned him. The Israelites did as the Lord commanded Moses" (Leviticus 2413-16 ).
"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man. But save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man" (Numbers 3118 ).
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword" (Joshua 621).
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" (1 Samuel 153).
"And as David returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, Abner took him, and brought him before Saul with the head of the Philistine in his hand" (1 Samuel 1757).
"Thus the Jews smote all their enemies with the stroke of the sword, and slaughter, and destruction, and did what they would unto those that hated them" (Esther 95 ).
"Why do the wicked prosper and the treacherous all live at ease?... But you know me, Lord, you see me; you test my devotion to you. Drag them away like sheep to the shambles; set them apart for the day of slaughter" (Jeremiah 121-3 ).
"A curse on all who are slack in doing the Lord's work! A curse on all who withhold their swords from bloodshed!" (Jeremiah 4810 ).
Chapter 20 of Leviticus contains a list of very severe punishments for various sins. For instance, cursing one's own father or mother would prompt the death penalty. A man marrying a woman together with her daughter must be burned in the fire. Homosexual men must be put to death. Those who commit bestiality must be put to death together with the animals. And many more deaths, and burning penalties.
94 Except for those with whom you had made a pledge from among the polytheists if they did not reduce anything from it nor did they support anyone against you; you shall continue the pledge with them until its expiry. God loves the righteous.
(Shabbir Ahmed Quran As It Explains Itself) 95 When the four Sacred Months are over, subdue them wherever they come from. Take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them ambush. But if they repent from aggression, and help in the consolidation of the Divine System and in setting up the Economic Order of Zakaat, then leave their way free. Surely, God is Forgiving Merciful (so shall you be).
Note from Shabbir Ahmed This verse applies to idolaters who were committing aggression instead of becoming law abiding citizens or emigrating. The four Sacred Months forbidden for any warfare From the 12th month, Zil-Hajjahup to the 3rd month,Rabi'ul Awwal2193-195, 936. Some critics of Islam call this verse as the ?Verse of Sword? presenting it out of context. Also, they present it as applicable for all times while it refers only to the aggressors against the Prophet and his companions in Makkah. See 91
96 And if any of the polytheists seeks your protection, then you may protect him so that he may hear the words of God, then let him reach his sanctity. This is because they are a people who do not know.
97 How can the polytheists have a pledge with God and with His messenger? Except for those with whom you made a pledge near the Restricted Temple, as long as they are upright with you, then you are upright with them. God loves the righteous.
98 How is it that if they ever defeated you they would neither respect neither any rights of kinship nor any pledge. They seek to please you with their words, but their hearts deny, and most of them are wicked.
Note from Dr Shabbir Ahmed Faasiqeen = Those who drift away
99 They purchased with the revelations of God a cheap price, so they repel others from His path. Evil indeed is what they used to do.
Again note from Dr Shabbir Ahmed This trade, frequently mentioned in the Qur?an, indicates Fulfilling selfish desires for instant gains at the cost of disregarding Permanent Moral Values
910 They neither respect the ties of kinship nor a pledge for any those who acknowledge. These are the transgressors.
911 If they mend their ways, (and as law-abiding citizens), help consolidate the Divine System, and the Economic Order of Zakaat, then they are your brothers in the System of Life. We explain Our messages for those who wish to learn.
Dr Shabbir Ahmed The usual translation of this verse conveys the meaning that if they start praying five times a day and give 2.5% poor-due per year, then they are your brothers in religion. This interpretation goes directly against the all-encompassing Ordinance of God that there is no compulsion or coercion in Deen Islam. 2256
912 If they keep breaking their pledges after their treaty, and assail your System, then fight the chiefs of the disbelievers. They have no respect for their binding oaths. This action will help restrain them from aggression.
913 Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths, and obsessed to expel the messenger, especially while they were the ones who attacked you first? Are you concerned about them? It is God who is more deserving that you be concerned with if you are believers.
914 Fight them; perhaps God will punish them by your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them and heal the chests of an acknowledging people
915 And to remove the anger from their hearts; God pardons whom he pleases. God is Knowledgeable, Wise.
916 Or did you think that you would be left alone? God will come to distinguish those of you who strived and did not take other than God and His messenger and the believers as helpers. God is Expert in what you do.
917 Those who associate others with God, (whether idols, dead saints, religious or temporal leaders), shall not administer God?s Masjids, the Centers of the Divine System ? while they witness against their own ?self? - denial of truth. All their works are in vain and they will abide in the fire.
Dr Shabbir Ahmed 9107, 3031, 7218. Pilgrimage of the House is a duty unto all mankind, not Muslims alone. 397
918 Only those people are fit to administer or maintain the Masjids (the Centers of the Divine Order), who have unwavering belief in God and the Last Day. They strive to establish the Divine System, and to set up the Just Economic Order of Zakaat and stand in awe of none but God. They are the ones who are rightly guided.
Dr Shabbir Ahmed Ya?mur = Maintains or administers. Yousuf Ali, Pickthall and Muhammad Asad correctly translate the word as maintaining or tending.
919 Have you made serving drink to the pilgrims and the maintenance of the Restricted Temple the same as one who acknowledges God and the Last day, who strives in the cause of God? They are not the same with God. God does not guide the wicked people.
920 Those who attained belief, and left the domain of evil, and strove in the cause of God with their wealth and their lives, have a much greater rank with God. They are the ones who are truly triumphant.
921 Their Lord gives them good news of a mercy from Him, and acceptance, and gardens that are for them in which there is permanent bliss.
922 Abiding therein eternally. With God there is a great reward.
923 O you who acknowledge, do not take your fathers nor brothers as allies if they prefer rejection to acknowledgement. Whoever of you takes them as such, then these are the wicked.
924 Say, "If your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your spouses, your clan, and money which you have gathered, a trade in which you fear a decline, and homes which you enjoy; if these are dearer to you than God and His messenger and striving in His cause, then wait until God brings His decision. God does not guide the wicked people.
Note from Edip Yuksel Most of the world's organized religious institutions collect money from their people. Most of that money is wasted through promotion of lies and ridiculous beliefs. In 2007, the approximately nineteen thousands of Catholic parishes raised about 6 billion dollars. Every year, millions of dollars, a great
percentage of that money, is stolen by thief priests. See 5727; 371; 4161; 924; 242; 2188.925 God has granted you victory in many battle-fields. And on the Day of Hunain, when you marveled at your great numbers, they did not avail you in the least. The earth, despite all its vastness, became constrained for you and you turned back, retreating.
926 Then God sent His reassuring peace upon His Messenger and upon the believers, and sent down armies you could not see, and punished the rejecters. Such is the reward of the deniers of the truth.
Note from Shabbir Ahmed The Messenger led them from chaos back to discipline, and boosted their morale. That was the army unseen. 3125, 810, 940, 4130, 484
927 Then God will accept the repentance of whom He pleases after that. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
928 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! The idolaters are polluted (with false beliefs) and so they shall not approach the Sacred Masjid from this year onward. If you fear poverty, then in time God will enrich you with His bounty according to His laws. Certainly, God is Knower, Wise.
Shabbir Ahmed See 918 for administration of the Masjid. Also, note that God invites all mankind, not Muslims alone, to the Pilgrimage of the Sacred House. 397, 2227
929 Fight those who do not acknowledge God nor the Last day among the people who received the book; they do not forbid what God and His messenger have forbidden, and they do not uphold the system of truth; until they pay the reparation, in humility.
930 The Jews said, "Ezra is God's son," and the Nazarenes said, "The Messiah is God's son." Such is their utterances with their mouths; they imitate the sayings of those who rejected before them. God's curse be on them. How deviated are their minds!
Note from Edip Yuksel The system of islam belongs to God alone (985). Accepting the fatwas of this or that cleric as islam is setting up partners with God. See 4221. Also, see 259; 279; 541.
And Shabbir Ahmed Many Jews in the Arabian Peninsula used to believe that Osiris, the Egyptian idol, was God?s Son while others thought of Ezra, who restored the Torah after it had been lost in the Babylonian Exile, as God?s Son. Uzayr applies to Ezra as well as Osiris. See 2088
931 They take their rabbis, priests and monks to be their Lords besides God. And they take as their Lord, the Messiah son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God. There is no god but He. Glorified is He from all that they ascribe to Him as partners.
Dr Shabbir Ahmed Talmud shows the Jewish superstition of ascribing divinity to Ezra, rabbis, saints, doctors of law and learned men. And the doctrine of Papal infallibility, divinity of saints and praying to them are common in the Roman Catholic Church.
932 They want to extinguish the light of God with their mouths, but God refuses such and lets His light continue, even if the rejecters hate it.
933 He is the One who sent His messenger with guidance and the system of truth, to make it manifest above all other systems, even if those who set up partners hate it.
Edip Yuksel Islam, which has been subjected to a terrible deformation and transformation process for centuries, has long ceased being islam (peacefully surrendering in and with peace), but rather became a man-made doctrine attributed to scholars, such as Shafii, Hanbali, Maliki, Hanafi, Jafari, Vahhabi, Naqshi, Qadiri, Alawi, Muhammedi, etc. By God's will, the fulfillment of the great prophecy (741) and the unfolding global events are signs that God has started a new era in which Islam will again provide humanity with a chance to reform their minds, their actions, and their world. See Chapter 110.
And Shabbir Ahmed 53, 931, 1331, 1448, 1848, 4153, 4828, 5120, 618. The Qur?anic Deen will prevail over all religions. This refers to Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism and all other forms of ?Isms? and religion, including the sects that are now present in the name of Islam. Please remember that no sect can be considered Islamic. DEEN in the Sight of God is nothing but Al-Islam 53. But next to religions, the Qur?anic System of Life will also dominate and prevail over all manmade political and social systems such as Communism, Atheism, Secularism, Secular Democracy, Despotism, Theocracy, Monarchy, all ?isms? such as ?Humanism? Socialism, Idol worship in any form, Sufism and Capitalism. This will happen as humanity, after the centuries old, protracted toil of trial and error will come to intellectually realize, and accept the Supremacy of the Final Testament, Al-Qur?an.
934 O you who acknowledge, many of the scholars and priests consume people's money in falsehood, and they turn away from the path of God. Those who hoard gold and silver, and do not spend it in the cause of God, give them news of a painful retribution.
Note from Shabbir Ahmed Ahbaar = Clergy of any religion. Ruhbaan = Monks, Yogis and Sufis
935 On the Day when they will be seared in the fires of Hell, and their foreheads and sides and backs will be branded with it "This is what you have hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you have hoarded!"
936 The count of the months with God is twelve months in God's book the day He created the heavens and the earth; four of them are restricted. This is the correct system; so do not wrong yourselves in them. Fight those who set up partners collectively as they fight you collectively. Know that God is with the righteous.
Note from Edip Yuksel Verse 936 relates the number of months to the day of the creation of the earth. Perhaps in early days of the creation, the rotation of the Moon and Earth were synchronized and there were exactly 12 lunar months in a solar year. The increase in the length of the year or the decelerating earth is causing problems for modern technology which is very sensitive to small changes in the measurement of time, such as computers, electric grids, GPS systems, and missiles. In mid 20th century, scientists learned that the rotation of Earth was not sufficiently uniform as a standard of time. Besides solar gravity, there are many factors influencing the rotation of the earth. For instance, though in minor way, the Moon's gravity through tides causes deceleration, and melting of ice in the North Pole causes little acceleration. To compensate this net deceleration, almost every year we are adding one second to our atomic clocks, which defines and measures a second as 9,192,631,770 electromagnetic radiation or oscillation of Cesium 133. Since 1972 we added 23 leap seconds until 2006. However, the rate of the deceleration does not show a pattern. In recent years, the earth's rotation has been on schedule. See. 9122
And Shabbir Ahmed Mankind, through international treaties, must agree to shun all kind of warfare during these four months. This will give them a cooling off period that sense may prevail over emotions. Four Sacred Months for peacetime 2194, 91. From the 12th lunar month of Pilgrimage to the third month
937 Know that accelerating the intercalary is an addition in rejection; that those who have rejected may misguide with it. They make it lawful one calendar year, and they forbid it one calendar year, so as to circumvent the count that God has made restricted; thus they make lawful what God made forbidden! Their evil works have been adorned for them, and God does not guide the rejecting people.
Note from Edip Yuksel Today's Sunni and Shiite mushriks consider Rajab, Zul-Qada, Zul-Hijja, and Muharram to be the Restricted Months (the 7th, 11th, 12th, and 1st months of lunar calendar). However, when we study 2197; 92 and the names of known months, we will discover that real Restricted Months must be four consecutive months and they are Zul-Hijja, Muharram, Safar, Rabi ul-Awal (12th, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd months). The very name of the 12th month, Zul-Hijja (Contains Haj), gives us a clue that it is the first month of haj pilgrimage. When we start from the 12th month, the last of the Restricted Months becomes the 3rd month, Rabi ul-Awal (First Fourth), and the very name of this month also is revealing; it suggests that it is the fourth month of the Restricted Months. Then, why the qualification "First"? Well, the name of the following month provides an explanation Rabi ul-Akhir (Second Fourth), which is the fourth month from the beginning of the year. In other words we have two months called "Fourth," the first one referring to the fourth restricted moth, with the second fourth referring to the fourth month of the lunar year. The word rabi (fourth) is used for seasons because each season is one fourth of a year. It is interesting that many of the crimes and distortions mentioned in the Quran have been committed by those who have abandoned the Quran for the sake of hadith and sunna; they repeated the same blunder of their polytheist ancestors.
938 O you who acknowledge, what is wrong with you when you are told "March forth in the cause of God," you become heavy on earth. Have you become content with this worldly life over the Hereafter? The enjoyment of this worldly life compared to the Hereafter is nothing.
939 If you did not go forth in God?s cause, He (His law) will afflict you with a painful doom. He will replace you with another nation. You cannot harm Him in the least. All things transpire according to the laws appointed by God.
Note from Shabbir Ahmed Only the competent nations live honorably on earth. 21105, 2455
940 If you do not help the Messenger, God will help him, as always. When the disbelievers drove him out of his home, they were just two men. They had to seek refuge in a cave. The Messenger said to his companion, ?Grieve not. God is with us.? Then God sent His reassuring peace upon him, and supported him with invisible forces of faith and courage (926). He made the word of the disbelievers utterly low. God?s Word remains Supreme. God is Mighty, Wise.
And you can keep reading rest of Sura 9, i copied and pasted from http//quranix.org/9#1
Hope this have helped you. May the Lord of the Worlds (SWT) guide & bless you & your family. group peace
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Exactly. Then how can you be sure to point out these obscure verses without having a crystal idea of what they mean and being able to anwer the possible side questions associated with those verses?
Like i said it should be a topic for discussion. Sorry if this sounds repeating.
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By the way shouldn't we stay on topic of Al-Asar?
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By the way shouldn't we stay on topic of Al-Asar?
I don't know. I thought we discussed the book you mentioned, but I agree we should not hijack bkanwar2's thread.
But honestly, our discussion is more productive than his translation, at least this is my early perception of his translation.
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I don't know. I thought we discussed the book you mentioned, but I agree we should not hijack bkanwar2's thread.
But honestly, our discussion is more productive than his translation, at least this is my early perception of his translation.
Yeah well i don't like hijacking other thread, i think it's my fault. Also bkanwar2's translation is well.....odd to say the least (Sorry bkanwar2) I do find our discussion interesting though but i still think we should stay on topic.
