Armed Conflict, Violence, and the Quran
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Peace,
The warfare in Quran is purely to stand up for your rights. If the quranic verses seem barbaric, then the verses are usually misinterpreted, like people earlier in this thread have already told.
The Quran is also telling us that we can emigrate and that the Earth is spacious.
I do not find the verses any strange as long as you do not take them out of context. The most common colorful slaughter-verse is entirely dependant on the surrounding context. With the whole surah in mind the verse is not so bad.
And if someone yields, muslims should not kill them. Prisoners may be taken just for strategical reasons (such as the yielding person may return to the enemy and fight again next time). I think prisoners should be treated with decency, they are just ignorant and misled.
In other words, I do not understand the war god feelings you have about God.
God bless you
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No, those who blame the Qur'an for "violence", would like that the Qur'an would have supported cowardice and surrender of the defenceless for the sake of coward non violence and for the sake of the benefit of those devoid of scrupels. Of course if you want to kill and maim and rob and do as a god with people and someone comes up oposing that and does not recoil at violence and risk, then, that of course if very inconvenient for the ruthless robber and murderer that would like the others NEVER, under no circumstance, to defend themselves or the defenceless by the means they can get.
Of course, for those bigots, doubletalkers, "meek ones" the Qur'an should condone cowardice and treachery, but not standing up by the means at their disposal against opression, tyrany, falsehood and murder.
Their falsehood and interests are clear.
That is the whole trouble with the Qur'an for those hypocrites the Qur'an does not condone cowardice nor disguises it as meekness or non violence.
Long live courage, and long live the truth and the divine protection.
Salaam
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The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways. Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
Thanks!
Learn Quran OnlineThe Quran only recognizes defensive war.
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Bu there a few verses which somewhat bother me, can you explain the following
95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they hold the contact prayer, and they contribute towards purification, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.
911 If they repent, and they hold the contact prayer, and they contribute towards purification, then they are your brothers in the system. We explain the revelations for a people who know.
839 And fight them all until there is no more oppression, and the entire system/religion is for God. But if they cease, then God is Seer over what they do.
The above verses seem to go against what the Koran says in general. I'd be glad if someone could explain them....
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Give us some nonviolent ways to stand up against the following
- Mass murder, brutal physical and mental torture for those who wanted to believe that there is only one god and that they won't worship millions of fake deities.
- Getting boycotted by all locals which then leads to hunger and poverty
- Fleeing country to avoid persecution, but then a time comes when the local government sends letter to the country of refuge compelling its government to send them back.
If you wish to know why the "violent verses" came have a look at what Saudi people did to new Muslims at the time including Prophet Muhammad.
http//www.loonwatch.com/2012/03/when-they-almost-killed-muhammad-the-persecution-of-islams-earliest-followers/ -
I recommend
http//www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/ICR/ICR_16.htm
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/fighting-war-terrorism.htm
http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/jihad-holy-war.htmAnd if you want to read in detail about those chapter 9 verses
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/disproved_traditional_salat.htm -
hi Arnold Yasin
u say To avoid the moral and intellectual problems
who is it
maybe i see thingAmong His signs is that He created for you spouses from among yourselves, in order to have tranquility and contentment with each other. He places in your heart love and care towards your spouses. In this, there are signs for people who think." (3021)
Obviously, this mixed messages have bothered many contemporary translators of the Quran. To avoid the moral and intellectual problems, they tried to soften the word "beat" when they translate the verse 434. For instance, Yusuf Ali uses a merciful parentheses after "beat" to save women -
divine is for religion cos google mean of, from, or like God or a god
god not real -
https//topicsfromquran.wordpress.com/2018/03/30/non-physical-fighting-1/
I believe since Islam means 'Peace', the fighting verses are mostly meant to non physical fighting and the main non physical fight should be with those who have war mongering tendencies, who wage war in the name of Holy War. The above link to the post analyses some of the fighting verses in Quran. More to follow analyzing still more fighting verses.
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https//topicsfromquran.wordpress.com/2018/03/30/non-physical-fighting-1/
I believe since Islam means 'Peace', the fighting verses are mostly meant to non physical fighting and the main non physical fight should be with those who have war mongering tendencies, who wage war in the name of Holy War. The above link to the post analyses some of the fighting verses in Quran. More to follow analyzing still more fighting verses.
We must check the verses before & after of the self defense verses. Otherwise people will claim of "murder" and "terrorism". Context is extremely important.
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You can also see
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/islam-clash-of-civilisations.htm
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/fighting-war-terrorism.htm
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/suicide-bombing.htm
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/jihad-holy-war.htm
