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WHY SHOULD KAFFIRS BURN IN HELL?

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    MaryK
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    Actions and good deeds are subjective and even if you do good doesn?t mean it?s all good. Let me share an example.
    I intend to make a cake for my dear friend. I found a recipe and followed it but the cake was disastrous, I had good intentions by the outcome wasn?t good.

    why do you think kaffir and idol worship = they didnt not believe in divinity of islam? Because that?s not how I understand the term kaffir. Someone can claim to believe in the divinity of islam it doesn?t mean they're not kaffirs.

    Tell me what does kaffir mean? What?s your understanding of it?

    As I understand its someone who rejects divinity of quran.

    Will they go to hell just because they dont believe in quran and god?

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      The_Sardar
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      As I understand its someone who rejects divinity of quran.

      Will they go to hell just because they dont believe in quran and god?

      Actually more than that, they know the truth in them and they try to conceal it (Read 2134 to 163)

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        The_Sardar
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        Also read 397, 5338-39, 657 and the surrounding verses of them.

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          The_Sardar
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          Sorry if i asked many times sister MaryK but you did read the verses and the link i have given to you right? Because it is important to see the whole context.

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            MaryK
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            Dear Sardar,

            I have read the links that were taken from quransmessage

            also i would like to know. lets say a person read quran in details, however he doesn find truth in it as he finds some controversial (from his point of view) verses, will he then be considered kafir?

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              The_Sardar
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              Dear Sardar,

              I have read the links that were taken from quransmessage

              also i would like to know. lets say a person read quran in details, however he doesn find truth in it as he finds some controversial (from his point of view) verses, will he then be considered kafir?

              No, because he is in doubt so he has to research the Qur'an in a unbiased way, besides Allah (SWTAY) knows what is inside our chests

              329
              Qul in tukhfoo ma fee sudoorikumaw tubdoohu yaAAlamhu Allahu wayaAAlamu ma fee alssamawatiwama fee al-ardi waAllahu AAalakulli shay-in qadeerun
              Say "Whether you hide what is in your chests or you reveal it, God will know." And He knows what is in the heavens and the earth; and God is capable of all things.

              Remember, context is the key and it's also important to check the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Plus the controversial verses? Again check the context & the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Be also aware there are people who claim to be unbiased but does have a agenda behind their backs so be careful on who you speak to in a critical & unbiased way. I hope this has answered your question dear sister. P.S you did read the other links right (excluding quranmessage article)

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                MaryK
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                No, because he is in doubt so he has to research the Qur'an in a unbiased way, besides Allah (SWTAY) knows what is inside our chests

                329
                Qul in tukhfoo ma fee sudoorikumaw tubdoohu yaAAlamhu Allahu wayaAAlamu ma fee alssamawatiwama fee al-ardi waAllahu AAalakulli shay-in qadeerun
                Say "Whether you hide what is in your chests or you reveal it, God will know." And He knows what is in the heavens and the earth; and God is capable of all things.

                Remember, context is the key and it's also important to check the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Plus the controversial verses? Again check the context & the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Be also aware there are people who claim to be unbiased but does have a agenda behind their backs so be careful on who you speak to in a critical & unbiased way. I hope this has answered your question dear sister. P.S you did read the other links right (excluding quranmessage article)

                what if the person has no doubts and he is 100 percent sure there is no god?

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                  The_Sardar
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                  what if the person has no doubts and he is 100 percent sure there is no god?

                  How is he 100 percent sure? He assumes that this world is accident and that nothing created everything which has no valid evidence. Plus, no doubts? Then how do you know he has no pre-conceived bias?

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                    Also read 91 to 72 to see how the rejecters can be hostile towards to those who acknowledge/believe.

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                      The_Sardar
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                      I hope i have given everything that answers your questions.

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                        MaryK
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                        ofc non believers can be hostile towards believers! but there also kaffirs who are very friendly and generally nice and kind.

                        what about them?

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                          The_Sardar
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                          ofc non believers can be hostile towards believers! but there also kaffirs who are very friendly and generally nice and kind.

                          what about them?

                          Are there any verses that speaks about Kaffirs that are friendly and nice? Because i have not seen a friendly kaffir in Qur'an.

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                            The_Sardar
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                            And remember, if you have read the verses in the Qur'an, the behavior of kaffirs aren't very friendly.

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                              MaryK
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                              And remember, if you have read the verses in the Qur'an, the behavior of kaffirs aren't very friendly.

                              Dear Sardar,

                              Do you really think that all atheists and people who reject islam are evil?

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                                The_Sardar
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                                Dear Sardar,

                                Do you really think that all atheists and people who reject islam are evil?

                                What? No. I even made a post about this https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610226.0

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                                  The_Sardar
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                                  And how exactly do you came up with that conclusion? I am not angry by the way dear sister.

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                                    MaryK
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                                    Dear Sardar,

                                    I am just very confused at this moment.
                                    How is it decided who will go to hell and who will go to heaven?

                                    In Quran it says that idol worshippers will go to hell for assigning partners to God. But what if lets say the idol worshipper is a good and kind person. Does he deserve to go to hell?

                                    what if the person is disbeliever, but he is truly good and not evil, does he deserve to go to hell?

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                                      The_Sardar
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                                      Actually more than that, they know the truth in them and they try to conceal it (Read 2134 to 163)

                                      Let me fix something Read 2134 to 182

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                                        MaryK
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                                        Dear Sardar,

                                        I read it.

                                        it says 'Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers - upon them will be the curse of Allah and of the angels and the people, all together'

                                        so as i understand no matter how good disbeliever is, he is still condmned to hell?

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                                          The_Sardar
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                                          In Quran it says that idol worshippers will go to hell for assigning partners to God. But what if lets say the idol worshipper is a good and kind person. Does he deserve to go to hell?

                                          what if the person is disbeliever, but he is truly good and not evil, does he deserve to go to hell?

                                          Actually how is that possible because you are confusing me. In Surah 9 the kafirs & and many of idolaters were very hostile towards believers and in 2134-182, 289-109, 626, 2714, 3542-43, 3670, 4126, 4732 the kafirs tried conceal when they heard the truth in The Book when the messenger came with clear proofs like in 4083 and 5725. How do you know that the idol worshiper & the disbeliever are good when they are denying the good thing that Allah/God (SWTAY) has given us.

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