How many mounts sinai are there?
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Hi huruf, I believe that this video partly answers your question, as according to it, mount siniin is mount senyin, a mountain in ethiopia.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=82a0tj_rOmU
mentioned around 702
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That mount in Ethiopia at least has de same name as that in the Qur'an.
I am not even sure that Tur saina' is Sinai. Again too much differnece and too much diference with siniin.
Salaam
But that is not with Tur; and Tur is on the side of Gulf of Suez. And that area is Peninsula of Sinai.
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You annot be serious about this.
It is obvious sintactically this Tur cannot be the city or town to which the trees belong, but a common name like mount Everest or river amazone.
Tur, common name, there are all over the world, mount Sainaa' could be anyhere, and mouny siniin could be anywhere.
I just don't get this compulsion to make the Qur'an fit into the straight jacket of bible most of the time convenient conventions.
Salaam
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You annot be serious about this.
It is obvious sintactically this Tur cannot be the city or town to which the trees belong, but a common name like mount Everest or river amazone.
Tur, common name, there are all over the world, mount Sainaa' could be anyhere, and mouny siniin could be anywhere.
I just don't get this compulsion to make the Qur'an fit into the straight jacket of bible most of the time convenient conventions.
Salaam
Exodus
They were reminded "O you the posterity of Iesraa'eel! Our Majesty delivered?rescued you in the recent past from your enemy;
And We have appointed for you a period on the right side of At-Tur ;
And We have intermittently sent to you al-Munna and As-salwa excellent food.
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http//haqeeqat.pk/Exodus.htm
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You are intepreting the Bible not the Qur'an. The bible is hadith. There may be truth in it but the fact that it is in the bible it is no guaranty that it is verified nor truth.
To me it is competely if not useless, although many times it is, inconclusive. In this case it is thorough sidetracking manoeuvre.
You explanation is good for bible hadith believers, not for Qur'an convinced.
Salaam
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You are intepreting the Bible not the Qur'an. The bible is hadith. There may be truth in it but the fact that it is in the bible it is no guaranty that it is verified nor truth.
To me it is competely if not useless, although many times it is, inconclusive. In this case it is thorough sidetracking manoeuvre.
You explanation is good for bible hadith believers, not for Qur'an convinced.
Salaam
Bible does not say this. Hadith also does not say what I have said quoting Qur'aan.
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You annot be serious about this.
It is obvious sintactically this Tur cannot be the city or town to which the trees belong, but a common name like mount Everest or river amazone.
Tur, common name, there are all over the world, mount Sainaa' could be anyhere, and mouny siniin could be anywhere.
I just don't get this compulsion to make the Qur'an fit into the straight jacket of bible most of the time convenient conventions.
Salaam
You seem neither reading Bible nor Qur'aan. Both are different.
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You seem neither reading Bible nor Qur'aan. Both are different.
That is what I am saying that they are different. What it seems to you is your business the thing is that you make Qur'an subservient to the bible hadith and bisedes quoting bible you have no proof neither fromt he Qur'an nor from other sources, except bible hadith.
Salaam
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That is what I am saying that they are different. What it seems to you is your business the thing is that you make Qur'an subservient to the bible hadith and bisedes quoting bible you have no proof neither fromt he Qur'an nor from other sources, except bible hadith.
Salaam
This is just palaver. You have not substantiated. I am just quoting you the Arabic words and phrases.
You read senao and sineena without caring for the first noun of phrase. Then you see not the map of globe which shows At-Tur only in the peninsula of Sinai.
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You defeat yourself. Again Tur is a common name, Tur there are all over the world. The proper name is sainaa' in one place siniin in another.
The text is not speaking about a town or a city but about a mount.
But you want to have it your way, good luck to you.
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You defeat yourself. Again Tur is a common name, Tur there are all over the world. The proper name is sainaa' in one place siniin in another.
The text is not speaking about a town or a city but about a mount.
But you want to have it your way, good luck to you.
Dear perhaps you forgot that in possessive phrases the first noun is always indefinite because it derives its definiteness from the second noun. If second noun is proper noun then the first noun is also definite - At-Tur.
You will not find in the whole of globe At-Tur except in peninsula of Sinai. Try searching Goggle map.
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Of ocurse it is definite but not bevause it is the proper noun of a town or city but because the primer name after it makes definite. Mount Washington, mount is deinite, ut it is a common name, the name of the mount is Washington and the fact that there is a name of a ton somethere int he world hich has mount in its name does not make it the mount.
And I will not discuss this any further. Do you want to be right and me wrong? Help yourself.
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http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/020.%20Ta%20ha/20.80e.gifThey were reminded "O you the posterity of Iesraa'eel! Our Majesty delivered?rescued you in the recent past from your enemy;
They were reminded "O you the posterity of Iesraa'eel!
Our Majesty has delivered?rescued you in the recent past from your enemy;
And We committed you people the right side of At-Tur ?
And We have intermittently sent to you al-Munna and As-salwa excellent food.
No other mountain, mount, rock in the world is described by the Arabic word At-Tur. It is only that which is on the side of the Gulf of Suez.