Nature of Satan
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Yes.. Satan is Jin...and descendants of Iblees... He is got physics and living in this very world and eating and drinking and living and dying and will ressurected and questioned and will deserve what he deserves.... If you have read while QURAN and given a deep thought to it, it won't be difficult to understand who Satan is... But shayaitin can be human and Jin and well...
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Yes.. Satan is Jin...and descendants of Iblees... He is got physics and living in this very world and eating and drinking and living and dying and will ressurected and questioned and will deserve what he deserves.... If you have read while QURAN and given a deep thought to it, it won't be difficult to understand who Satan is... But shayaitin can be human and Jin and well...
Salam jkhan
Just wondering if he is jinn why would God reprimand Him for not obeying a command which was issued to Angels.
Al-Baqarah 234
And behold, We said to the angels "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis he refused and was haughty He was of those who reject Faith.
It really confuses me
God bless
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Yes c50... I know Satan is not Angel... But iblees was... But iblees spoiled his status position god gave him.... Angel could be a high status furnished by God to Jins... Angel May not be another creature away from Jin...
Once iblees deviated from that status he would have lived with his other jin members whome were not in that group where God asked to sujud (submit) to Adam... Coz iblees has decendants so he had a wife/s and child/ren... Satans are descendants of iblees who follow iblees.. Satans are status / position of jin coz of their rejection.. Remember iblees requested God to give him time till the day of ressurection... So he is alive Now... God created Jin before man that's proof from Quran... And some Jin were alive while this earth n heavens are created... That's why God says He didn't let know the creation to them while He created it and used the Jins (highly rated as Angels) in the creation process ...
Angels (High ranked jins) who are close to God...
Satan (meaner of those jins)
And there are normal believing jins and disbelieving ones...
When Adam was sent to this very Earth he was not sent alone but with all (iblees, Satan and all descendants of iblees and other normal jins)
All will be questioned
After all men and Jin will be in fire which include (Satan, mushrik, mujrim, kafir all status of those among men and Jin who went against God) -
Please can anyone tell me who is Satan, what is his Nature i.e is he a Jinn by nature or creation or what is he (obviously he is not human) or is he an Angel.
Never met the dude, thus never had the chance to asked him/her/it about his/her/it's nature.
Perhaps when you met him/her/it you can ask the question yourselves?
One thing that I've experienced is the name of Satan are often invoked by those who are either angry at someone or something, and Satan often being blamed for everything bad that happened to somebody, a kind of universal scapegoat.
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Yes c50... I know Satan is not Angel... But iblees was... But iblees spoiled his status position god gave him.... Angel could be a high status furnished by God to Jins... Angel May not be another creature away from Jin...
Once iblees deviated from that status he would have lived with his other jin members whome were not in that group where God asked to sujud (submit) to Adam... Coz iblees has decendants so he had a wife/s and child/ren... Satans are descendants of iblees who follow iblees.. Satans are status / position of jin coz of their rejection.. Remember iblees requested God to give him time till the day of ressurection... So he is alive Now... God created Jin before man that's proof from Quran... And some Jin were alive while this earth n heavens are created... That's why God says He didn't let know the creation to them while He created it and used the Jins (highly rated as Angels) in the creation process ...
Angels (High ranked jins) who are close to God...
Satan (meaner of those jins)
And there are normal believing jins and disbelieving ones...
When Adam was sent to this very Earth he was not sent alone but with all (iblees, Satan and all descendants of iblees and other normal jins)
All will be questioned
After all men and Jin will be in fire which include (Satan, mushrik, mujrim, kafir all status of those among men and Jin who went against God)Salam to All
So ibless after disobedience he became a Jinn entity? Or am I getting you worng
God bless
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Salam
Yes you got it wrong.. I wonder my weak English is reason for it... Anyhow... Iblees didn't become a coz of his violation.. He is a Jin and still.. And he was a jin while God asked him to sujud but in the high rank assigned by God is Angels... All angels are Jin as a creature.. Don't you get by iblees saying I was created by fire... Iblees was created by God is was created other jins.. Just coz of iblees falling from the status of angel to rejectors doesn't mean his body his creation will change.. But only his status of malak... All jins were not given that status and all jins were not present while God asked to sujud to Adam but only who are designated as angels out of those jins were present coz they suppose to serve Adam and the rest of the human in the future... But not all jins have to sujud Adam... I hope you get my explanation... Centi you have to read Quran thoroughly rather than posting each and every small question on this forum.. I don't say it's wrong.. But self understanding with Quran is best and will have the the strength to sustain with it for life rather than stick with others explanation... God bless you -
It's okay... Centi... I inky told my preference.. Coz learning quran and guidance is much worthy... Why lots of questions pop up is coz there is something wrong in your understanding of Quran... So approach it... So you will be able answer and not question...
Sorry I didnt meant to discomfort u...
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It's okay... Centi... I inky told my preference.. Coz learning quran and guidance is much worthy... Why lots of questions pop up is coz there is something wrong in your understanding of Quran... So approach it... So you will be able answer and not question...
Sorry I didnt meant to discomfort u...
God bless uSalam Jkhan,
Thanks anyways for answering. Sometimes you cannot understand the scripture by yourself and by asking qutions and discussion you get to understand more. God teach you the scripture in many ways. He may make you understand it by yourself or by using other mediums eg like this forum at the end is for you to choose the best. God can make use of anyone to pass on a 'message' of truth (162, 4015).
In the end someone listen to all message and choose the best (391God bless you
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Isn't it self evident that satan is the personification of the human instinct ? It tempts us to act with complete disregard to our own principles, it doesn't know right from wrong and wants what it wants. The more you let it guide your actions the more you're controlled by it etc etc.... I'm sure you can read Quran and find hints to that. But the way of reading those stories matters too. You can read it in a way that is relatable to your day to day life or you can read it as some weird story that you'll never understand. Up to the reader.
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Isn't it self evident that satan is the personification of the human instinct ? It tempts us to act with complete disregard to our own principles, it doesn't know right from wrong and wants what it wants. The more you let it guide your actions the more you're controlled by it etc etc.
You mean personification of bad human character?
Such as- Hatred
- Vengeful
- Proud
- Non Empathetic / Apathy
- Liar / Deceitful
- Egocentric
Then you can also find those characteristics especially among fanatics of today.. any type of fanaticism..
I don't buy any story / myth that anything can reject / refuse God's will or command.
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Salam to All,
Please can anyone tell me who is Satan, what is his Nature i.e is he a Jinn by nature or creation or what is he (obviously he is not human) or is he an Angel.
Please don't ask me what I is he according to me because I wouldn't have ask. If you want help me understand you are welcome and I will appreciate it
God bless you are
peace centi50,
Shaitan is an adjective .. can b used for human,jinn,animal (in some cases for toys) like evil doll rotfl > jk..
you are mixing ibless with shaitan ..
probably ibless was the first one as per religious tales/stories who act shaitani.. so he owned that title shaitan.. but in reality its an adjective.
EXAMPLE in our daily conversations we sometimes say "shaitan" to a kid or an animal like monkey when we see him doing things.
coming back to your second one "what was his nature" you have to set the parameters according to what source you want to highlight his nature.. ? if you want to know by quran then as per quran ibless is jinn..
about the malaika/controllers theory .. we have to see either its possible for a jinn or human to become controller, if it is then there is nothing more to think about it.. we are actually far away to understand the real nature of angel so its difficult to decide either he was malika or not ..
another thing mayb the stories of adam vs eve vs shaitan is somehow metaphorical.
intrestingly evil must exist to let human percieve what is good. evil part is connected with human nature as well as good part to see and understand the mystery behind what creator created.. (HUMAN BEING) = abilty of doing good and evil..
God bless you all
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There's no difficulties in finding out who are angels, iblees, jin, SATAN...let me explain again bit in detail ..
Just coz people call a toy or child as Satan, doesn't mean it can be called with meaning.. people can call anything but truth we got to search from QURAN... Human cannot become Angel as kawaja indicated with a possibility saying human can become angels .. No.. Angels only from Jin as per QURAN..
Do you agree with me that God created Jins before human? You have to folks coz QURAN says so..
Do you agree with me that only Jin and Human will be put in hell and for that matter in Janna ? Yes coz that's what Quran says.. Irrelevant the creatures created for the service of human and Jin in Janna..
Jin and human ONLY will be in Hell whatever their status are..be it iblees or Satan or mujrim or mushrik or kafir or Munafiq.. Whatever God will..
God is alone forever even before a single creature is being created.. Who is the first of those who created is kind of mystry.. But not out of reach for a kind of study..
Okay let me explain JINS... These are the first creations of God, after the Janna was created where the Jins are accommodated with. Out of those Jins God has given them a kind of elite status which is called Angels for them to perform various tasks in the Gods kingdom for example those angels who are with Arsh or meekail or Jebreel or those who involved in the creation process of this earth and heavens or guardians of earth and heavens or the angels who decend with God on judgment day, etc etc. Those angels are utmost among the Jins.. It is like giving a status of prophets to a human being.. Just for the sake of example.. So those Jins were living in the Janna with their God gifted status as angels and also normal Jins with whatever mindset and positions of their own but definitely not the level of angels ..
Now the next step is God created this earth and heavens, for this God used these Angels not all of them but whoever God willed.. It's clear by saying God didn't let them know the creation process.. Otherwise they would have known.. For example Iblees.. He would have known how the creation took place.. But he was not fortunate.. Coz God knew his destiny.. Remember God Himself created the Janna where all these angels are living.... That's naturally understanble God won't give a life to another creature before creating a place for it to live with..
Yes..the creation of this world was taken place at certain time. God consulted with those elite groups (not with all Jins) about another creation which is not Jin but human... They were against it with their limited knowledge.. But God knew what those angels didn't know. Once the first human is created God wanted all those Angels (not all jins) to serve/submit sujud to Adam... They were not to refuse to God's instructions coz their heart were pure and not arrogant and serving God with submission .. But they were not forced but with their free will.. But as per clear verse 711-12 Iblees (it's a name of one of those angels) refused... God gave him high status of angels among jins not to boast of it.. But he boasted saying to the question of God what prevented you from sujud.. Iblees replied I was created by fire.. And I am better than (Him) Adam.. How iblees judged himself that he is better and fire is better than clay.. That's ego... Who is better than another is to judge by Creator and not by creature.. Iblees could not get out of that shackle.. He remained same.. And since iblees was intentionally misguided by God for his ego, iblees begged for time till the day of ressurection.. So iblees knew about the day of ressurection even before Adam was put in Janna to live and even before Adam was sent to the earth as well. Coz iblees was among the elite group.. It's very fair he knew it.. For me it's very clear according to Quran that this feud took place in the presence of God and not in Janna. It was like a big conference between God and the elite angels having the Adam in between.. No clue whether they all saw God, but no for me.. God says after the feud to iblees 713 get down from this, it is not for you to be arrogant Here.... So in the presence of God there is no arrogance. But later iblees was sent to the Janna and Adam and his wife were living. How long they were living till the day they approached to the tree is mystry.. But for me it has to be quite bit a long time.. Iblees is respited by God and iblees challenged to God to stay against the path of God.. God said hearing it 718 " ... get out from Here... " it was not from the Janna but from the place where the feud took place.. Now feud completely over and Adam was taught everything and was asked to live in Janna by having whatever they wish (whatever they wish is not a simble of Earth but Janna..we can't get whatever we wish on earth) 719.. Okay.. Now time elapsed.. One day.. This tragedy happens and Adam fails.. Strangly God used the word Satan 720... What is Satan here.. Satan is descendants and followers of iblees out of those jins who are not ranked as angels and who were living in the Janna freely... For that group the leader is iblees... So it is a status of group of jins who are deviated from the path of God and stays against the path as barrier to others (human and Jin)..1698(has reason to seek refuge from God from Satan) They have physics for sure.. 717...
And let's look how Satan deceived..as some say it was only from mind of Adam.. No.. Satan came in front of him in whatever physic he was and told 720 " ... Your (dual) Lord didn't forbid you this tree save that you should become ANGELS or IMMORTALS.. " 7"21 .... he (Satan) swore by God to them (dual)... Verily I am (singular) one of the sincere well wishers for you (dual)..
Flow of the verse clearly indicates Satan (only one of those descendants / followers of Iblees) approached Adam and his wife and told what he told as per above.. These are not mind games or dispute .. These are real as per verse..
How can it be a dispute inside Adam's mind.. When Satan says I am your well wisher and swore. Look at the previous verse.. He deceives Adam a thing which Adam even not known for sure.. That is to become an Angel or Immortal... Human cannot become Angel.. The ego of losing the status of angel by iblees made him to make a such a story... Coz being an angel is God gifted position where no human can near.. And the other one is immortals.. That's another set of angels out of the same elite whose life God won't terminate. You can come to conclusion who these immortals by reading the verse in which God says in the Day trumpet is blown all will die except those God will.. Yes.. They are those immortals .how Adam knows these .. But iblees knew coz he was among those elite.. Unfortunate fellow..
Now Adam got duped and Adam disobeyed his Lord.. Now what God says.. 722 " .... And Their (dual) Lord called out them (dual).. Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you verily SATAN is an open enemy to you(dual)..
Interestingly God didn't say iblees is an enemy to you but Satan... So iblees had his mighty group formed for his challenge and they are Satan...
Now what happens.. Adam and his wife got it totally who their enemy is.. 723
But what will God do? For what purpose Adam was created and where to place him all well known to God.. All knower of the Ghaib - unseen, telling to Adam and rest (all wife Adam, iblees, descendants of iblees (Satan) and good and bad jins) to get down to Earth.. It's not shifting within jannah to another place of jannah but directly from super enjoyment to the testing field with hardships.. 725 So till the day of ressurection we all will remain on this very earth and die here and will be ressurected from this same Earth
Hope you understand what's immortals, Angels iblees, Jin, Satan and human..
Two main characters here in this are Iblees and Adam.. God knew who was iblees even though he was among elite angels and God knew who is Adam though he was in Janna.. Nothing is free from God without obedience to Him... As God stated no arrogance IN His presence.. The best way to deserve the place of everlasting enjoyment as of angels is to surrender to God without arrogance.. So God sent all those who violated that to this very pre-planned earth to be put under strict test and brought back as deserving ones.. Angels most probably would have never ever violated God with arrogance so they remain there without being put to test but obeying God's order and being the servers of us..
This shows clearly from the beginning of creation of jannah and the creation of this world and the promise of creation of janna accompanied by Hell, God wants to rule His Kingdom in His own way and whoever goes arrogant against it and violate it, will be punished.. But not in the way which is injustice but with extreme balance of justice.. That's the nature of God..
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peace jkhan,
hope u doing good in life.people can call anything but truth we got to search from QURAN...
thats y quran advise people to use their mind,facilities,reason,logic,critical thinking etc (1736) then weigh and balance things on level peace
Human cannot become Angel as kawaja indicated with a possibility saying human can become angels .. No.. Angels only from Jin as per QURAN..
brother i m sure you did not understand what i was on about with that possibility.. i ll come back to you with this in the end of post , first see what Quran actually said about IBLESS..
in 11 places author used this Name " ibless " in all of these verses. we didnt see author of quran addressed ibless as angel/malaika/controller..
instead of keep guessing what he was ? author just mention once in 18 50 = (he was jin) ..
so we cant say he was angel , we need atleast one evidence for that claim.. (as per Quran).
coming back to your " POSSIBILTY " for God using this word is not appropriate..
before jumping to hereafter life and assumptions just wana let you know i m not aware or have any slight idea as i never experienced that life or i never see somebody who already experienced that life.. lets start from this life..we started from kid LOOP = we start crawling, walking , running , studying , earning, giving birth to offsprings, and died)
in this loop everybody usually upgraded a level always when he finish the first level.. our roles also changed from time to time like once we need hand of parents to walk and then we become parent and we give hand to our kids in the same time some cases we give hand to our parents in their old age... then we worked under somebody and slowly slowly people work under us... its all about roles and purpose of life.
if there is a purpose of this life then the purpose of life hereafter is also there.
current time space is just one thing what we can percieve at this moment , when i think these things lot of things (my own) automatically comes in my mind that link one thing to another..
so i think the qualified ( beings) from this time space will be serving more duties and roles whatever their creator wish from them.. its not a difficult thing for creator to provide any character to (jinn,angel,human) .. basically roles... let say there is a role for one individual to look after the laws of physics in new universe.. or in already going on universe ,
humanity, angels, jinns and this universe is not the only thing , God creations are in trillions , and there are trillions of purpose fullfillers (what we imagine as controllers) in the kingdom of God..
my things are sometimes on a next level lol what i cant actually explain in post i feel its a face to face discussion.. examples
when we see universe started 13.7 billions years ago (as per science) then another thing take place i.e what was the time before time ?
when we see universe started from singularity then we think what was the space without space ?(time without time vs universe without space) at this extreme point human mind abilites give up thinking or making any ideas..
but who knows how many times this (13.7 figure) repeated in overall history of human perception
who know how many characters burried under the pages of history..a human can only understaand this 13.7 and still discovering a lot with lot of missing links..
what if there were angels from different galaxies and their laws of theri galaxies are totally different ... (may b the are care takers of balck holes ) ...
actually therez a lot to talk but i think its better if we start a new thread for sharing the ideas whatever anybody have in their mind..
God bless you all
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Yes kawaja, your statement ?so we cant say he was angel , we need atleast one evidence for that claim.. (as per Quran).?
Iblees should be strongly considered as per quran 1850 Jin, and he was an angel as per 20116, 234?
20116 ?And when We said to the angels, 'Bow yourselves to Adam'; so they bowed themselves, save Iblis; he refused.?
234 ?And when We said to the angels, 'Bow yourselves to Adam'; so they bowed themselves, save Iblis; he refused, and waxed proud, and so he became one of the unbelievers.?
With the above exemplary two verses, if one cannot deduce that IBLEES is not an Angel, then there will creep issues based on the verses..
For example, if a teacher says to kids ?Please stand up those who are under age 8, so one kid didn?t stand up coz he was above age 8..? Can the teacher ask him why you didn?t get up when I asked you to do so.. Kid can say ?You didn?t refer me but you asked those who are under 8.. Get out of the class? ha ha.. that?s funny? or the Kid could have said ? I am older and better and stronger than the rest.. that?s why I didn?t stand?
Okay sorry for the simple example? So How can God say to Iblees ?what prevented you from making sujud to adam when God Himself asked the Angels to the Sujud to Adam ..? Iblees could have said You(My Lord) asked only from Angels, why should I Sujud..? logically right.. isn?t it.. But iblees didn?t say so, but iblees said I am better than Adam and You created me by fire.. Fire is the source God created the Jins.. that?s quran.. So, isn?t Iblees a Jin but by his status was an Angel? So, can?t we conclude that all angels are created by Fire and they are physically Jins but with their status Anjels?Don?t you get the rough idea by Satan duping statement and saying to Adam
?Then Satan whispered to them, to reveal to them that which was hidden from them of their shameful parts. He said, 'Your Lord has only prohibited you from this tree lest you BECOME (thakuna-dual) ANGELS, or lest you become (thakuna-dual) IMMORTALS?
Does this statement look like to become another creature as angel OR to a position / status from same existing body to which is considered elite.. let me know..
Can you pls furnish me your understanding Mr. Kawaja.. I have heard many claiming that Angels are not Jins but separate creature..?
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SLM jkhan,
first of all ,i love your explanations ( read alot of yours ) ... but i am not agree about this one with you ...
first of all
why are we created and for what purpose5156 And not I have created the jinn and the mankind except that they worship Me.
so Jinn and mankind is created to worship Allah, no Angels here .... their purpose is different.
in the surah of Al-Kahf ayaat 9 it says
1809 Or have you thought that the companions of the cave and the inscription were, among Our signs, a wonder?
companions , what are they ... only humans ?? no cause they had a dog with them
1818 And you would think them awake, while they were asleep. And We turned them to the right and to the left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror.
yet they called companions ....
(first) creatings forms
Human - clay 1526 And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud.
Jinn - fire ( smokless/scorching ) 1527 And the jinn We created before from scorching fire.
Angels - Light ( nur ) ..... i swear i thought they were created from light but there is no evidence from the Quran, only from hadiths ........ so ..hmmmm...
scrap this ) ...pls if someone can find it in the Quran pls show it to me ( about the creation of the angels)
freedom of choice
mankind and Jinns got privileged to chose their destiny , they could make their own choices, bad or good its up to them...
but angels do they ever go astray ??? could they or not , doesnt matter, cause they never did it .... ( sorry i could not find in the Quran with straight lines wherein it would said that the angels have no free will... )i am no native speaker arabic , so my source is from you guys , and internet ....
Insha Allah we will guide to the right path ...
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Yes Kaltun
You stated One of the mightiest things against Angels.. Let's hope that it is in unawareness and not intentional..what made you to think that Angels don't Ibada (serve /worship) or appload/admire and sanctify Their Creator.. Yes God created Jin and human to serve, sanctify and admire The Lord.. Angels are Highly ranked Jins they do much better than any human can do I presume... And they do tirelessly and with whole intention and purely... Their position is of being angel was an achievement by doing so.. But they are on their own will and not forced... No one is forced by Allah even the earth or heavens or sun or moon whatever of His creatures.. Nothing is forced to worship Him.. Dear everything is Serving Him even the animals and birds and trees all.. You name it.. Iblees became arrogant after being an angel just coz of a creation of human being..that shows all angels were doing everything on their own willing.. But iblees fallen.. Unfortunate fellow..
Just look below verses how Angels to worship..
2119 Unto Him belongeth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth. And those who dwell in His presence are not too proud to worship (Ibada) Him, nor do they weary;
2120They glorify (Him) night and day; they flag not.
230 And when thy Lord said unto the angels Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? (wa'annahnu nusabbihu bihamdika, wanukaddisu laka) He said Surely I know that which ye know not
That's your misunderstanding.. Up to you..
What you wanted to say by giving verses regrading the companions (Ashab) of cave.. Whatever your intention is... But you said that Ashab includes dog and well.. No.. Not at all..
Dog was just there with them.. May be it is their dog.. But not part of As'hab.. There were two companions(group-As'habain) in the cave.. Which doesn't include dog... God doesn't want the dog to test time they stayed.. But two of those companions...Read below
1812 And afterward We raised them up that We might know which of the two parties (ahsabain - dual) would best calculate the time that they had tarried. -
SLM jkhan ,
thx for the reply ...
little bit confused now... i searched but i cant (could not ) find how the Angels created ??
indeed Allah created Jinns and Humans to worship Allah .. i thought angels are controllers or ( Allah fogive me ) somekind of robot, without own will do everything what Allah orders ( nothing wrong with it )but you showed me ( read so manytimes these things yet i see it now ) with ayats, they do indeed do worshipping Allah...
thx for the lesson, little bit confused now , but hey thats good, this way i can settle thing better away....
So angels are jinns so can humans also being angels ???
thx again
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Salam kaltun...
It's not only you but happens to many a believers.. We keep reading but we don't get the meaning though the meaning is in simple language.. That happens to me and hope happens to all.. But at some point we get it.. That's why God guides... Not by we reading it or we discussing it.. Guidance from God how much one convince another won't work out...
Okay.. You didn't explain why you gave the example of parties of cave?And to your last question human can become also Angels? No in my up to date understanding of Quran and I never found any supporting evidence to conclude it...
God created Jin and gave to whomever He will the status of Angels .. This could be long long time before the creation of Human... So out of the Jins.. only Creature of Jins were given that status... Further God says in the Janna men and Jin will be rewarded who are believers and who were put to test on this earth.. Strangely the highest position God refers to a human or Jin who are to be rewarded delights of Janna can achieve the status of Prophets or Siddiqun etc... But never said that God will reward the status of Angels... So if that's the highest positions then we can't yearn for anything other than that... We shouldn't be arrogant like iblees..
But master deceiver duped Adam saying that 720 "Your (dual) Lord didn't forbid you this tree save that you should become ANGELS or IMMORTALS"
We should follow the path of God and not the path who blocks it (Satan).. Satan deceives with fancy words and attractions with full of lies.. Satan knew human can never become The status of Angels, but Satan enticed Adam and his wife saying the above statement for which they were tricked...
But one thing kaltun.. We can't decide who is better (Angels or the status of prophets) that God knows.. And there is no need of such comparisons either.. That comparison only made the iblees to fall... Iblees is a good example for all good believers coz we can also fall in the same way being a good believer to the lower level coz of any ego issue in us .. Arrogance and ego is not worth for angels or believers.. That will destroy.. That's the quality of Satan... For example there can be a very good quality believer who never does a wrong intentionally and goes in line with Quran his whole life.. But one day another believer points at him one of the faults of him which he never perceived of before, but for that he became arrogant saying I know well what I am doing.. But the one who pointed is right according to Quran.. But he couldn't agree coz he was in one opinion.. He didn't want to accept and look the truth in its own but looked at the person and he went against the person and blinded with truth he presented.. Just example.. It can happen to any believers.. If it can happens to iblees it can happen to us... .. God didn't give iblees the status of Angel not coz he was mischievous always.. No iblees should have been a Good Jin to deserve it.. But failed on arrogance..
We can't become to certain positions even how much we do good, coz positions are given by God.. Coz we live and gonna live in extreme God's Kingdom...so the choice of positions for the kingdom is only from God... No one can argue how Jibreal became as Jibreal.. What he did to deserve it.. God is the decider.. Surrender to it..
God bless us...