Are there Female prophetess
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Peace Imran.
Here is the first thing we need to establish
What is the word for the plural of a mixture of male and female messengers in Arabic?
If you know give me the word , we will then continue with the subject and context of the messengers of surah 23.
GOD bless you.
Peacepeace Good logic,
we dnt need to continue dnt worry about it we know you are stumped. not on this occassion but also history of past is there infront of everybody. how many times u stumped.
i m not rude just wana let you know busy these days and have not much time to explain you like kids about WHAT i m ASKING, its difficult to explain somebody when he pretends not to understand whats going on. ( just wana save my time and yours)
again giving you hint your claim started with 2351 and u refferring it to mary and jesus there must be dual noun ? if its not then the position of ur claim is voodoo
you are asking me like i m telling you to find a transgender NOUN ? did i really asked/claimed/reflect on this tranny pronoun? USE magnifier and find DUAL in my last posts. just wana show people how careless you are while reading posts lmaoo rotfl
GOD BLESS YOU
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Peace Imran.
Do you know the word in Arabic for mixed Messengers (male in female) in Arabic?
We can proceed with the rest. Please stay on this important point first.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
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Peace Imran.
Also you are wrong here, quote
again giving you hint your claim started with 2351 and u refferring it to mary and jesus there must be dual noun ? if its not then the position of ur claim isI am referring it to all the messengers mentioned in surah 23 starting at 2323...Noah...etc, including 2350.
And it is me who is not reading your posts properly?
GOD bless you.
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Peace Soitto?.
This is in response to your long thread? Don?t get surrender to things before verification? your enthusiasm makes me to sense you have agreed to this article completely or to major part of it?
I am not someone who is born as native to any kind of Arabs? I never learned Arabic till my completion of College.. it doesn?t mean I went to learn Arabic but self learned it with the mere usage of using the quran.. not to know what Egiptian style of Arabic or Lebanese, etc..but for guidance ? I don?t get when arabs speak save here and there.. but I get when quran is recited coz I am familiar with quranic set of words.Honestly thorough research on the thread I can completely debunk this man?s / woman?s claim?But unfortunately No time..and not necessary either.. But I wont leave without giving you a simple question?You research Soitto..
According to the thread, (Ibn) is not Son.. Right..that?s what I get from the explanation? so for example in verse 2350
?And We made the SON(Ibn) of Mary and HIS mother a sign and sheltered them within a high ground having level and flowing water.?Okay.. if Ibn is not Son here in this verse let?s replace as per the option given in the thread with ?CONSTITUION?.. lets replace the full verse..
?And We made the CONSTITUTION(ibn) of Mary and HIS MOTHER a sign and sheltered THEM (Wa?aawainaHUMA-dual) within a high ground having level and flowing water.?May I know what is HIS MOTHER in this verse in relation with constitution..? And dual form of THEM? And High Ground and flowing water?? Pls answer this basic before any one go deep into this thread on a research..
God guide us...Salam jkhan,
Why not u translate 5030 in this way -
5030
Wa - And
ja'alna- Our allowance of
-ab na ? Constitution of
Maryama - Mariam
wa - and
ummahooo ? its source (are)
aayatann ? a signThanks
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Peace... Soitto..
Why 5030 .. What happened to my last verse.. Translate it in your way pls.. .... I can't change quran verses as per your taste... I don't see anything what you talking about in 5030.... I don't have time for foolishness In you.. Sorry to say in that way...But for the benefit of all I present briefly to quiet people like you who twist the verses of Quran to blind others.....
With below three verses I can describe it in a way that you will never be able to pose a question again if you are a believer... But I won't.. You translate and let the people understand the three verses... Then I will explain in sha Allah how insane to twist the Verses of God... Untouchable... Remember it..
5116 "And when God said, 'O Jesus son of Mary, didst thou say unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God"?' He said, 'To Thee be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, Thou knowest it, knowing what is within my soul, and I know not what is within Thy soul; Thou knowest the things unseen."
517 "They are unbelievers who say, 'God is the Messiah, Mary's son.' Say 'Who then shall overrule God in any way if He desires to destroy the Messiah, Mary's son, and his mother, and all those who are on earth?' For to God belongs the kingdom of the heavens and of the earth, and all that is between them, creating what He will. God is powerful over everything."
352 "And when Jesus perceived their unbelief, he said, 'Who will be my helpers unto God?' The Apostles said, 'We will be helpers of God; we believe in God; witness thou our submission."
God guide you from hell fire.. And bless you
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Salam jkhan,
Why not u translate 5030 in this way -
5030
Wa - And
ja'alna- Our allowance of
-ab na ? Constitution of
Maryama - Mariam
wa - and
ummahooo ? its source (are)
aayatann ? a signThanks
Sorry, Verse number will be 2350 (not 5030, written so as typo mistake)
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Peace Bygane.
In 2351 GOD is carrying on talking about the Rusul-Messengers- Ya Ayuha Rusul, O you messengers that were the subject since 2323.
If you carry on with the context you will see the past ,for example 2353 uses the past tense -Fatakattau Amrahoom Baynahoom- is the past tense.GOD bless you.
Peace.Salam,
Other characters such as mala'o and kuffar were also mentioned in between the verses but they were not messengers of Allah, equally Maryam was mentioned as an ayat not a messenger. Therefore <a href="http//tanzil.net/#2351">2351</a> is addressing messengers of Allah only, not all those mentioned from 2323 to 2350 verses
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Peace Bygane .
Thank you for your reply.
Of course 2351 is only addressing Messengers . Did I say differently?
GOD bless you.
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Peace Bygane.
My post was an answer to this quote from you
Other characters such as mala'o and kuffar were also mentioned in between the verses but they were not messengers of Allah,You say Meriem was only an aya but so was her son. Do you think he not was addressed in 2351 as well?
GOD bless you.
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Good Logic....
What are you trying to say to Bagyane.... You want to checkmate him / Her by confusing... How do you claim He/she said Maryam ONLY....where is ONLY used by bagyane ... by the way how you say just you referred messengers while you said Maryam also included as messenger as per you below statement.. Yes you talking different.. And you are playing around to hide your claim with a verse which has not said to Maryam..Below Your quote Good logic..
"Messengers addressed here are all the ones mentioned from 2323 i.e Noah, the messengers after him, Moses, Aaron, Ibn Meriem and his mother( O you messengers....)
Surely one cannot argue here and say Meriem is not mentioned with the other messengers or argue messengers here only mean all the others ,not Meriem?
GOD bless you.
Peace."What is this ambiguous way of talking Logic... You think fools are around in this forum....
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You want to checkmate him / Her by confusing... How do you claim He/she said Maryam
What is this ambiguous way of talking Logic... You think fools are around in this forum....
rotfl rotfl rotfl
RED exactly thats what hez thinking so thats why better to save your time... we dnt have infintie time at this planet.
BOLD he himself confused bro if u really wana help brother then you have to be patient becoz magnifying glass, repeating, burden of proof things, are not the cup of tea of my brother although upon my last debate i try my best to give him advice of having almonds i am afraid he didnt took that dose so i give up on my brother.
if GL claims that God got two hands then you will not b able to win the claim becoz he will show the verse of God hands for his claim and then he ask you to bring God infront of you as evidence. same like RK he want to have his cake and eat it too lmao
God bless all of you.
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Peace jkhan.
My question is simple
Who are the messengers addressed by"YaAyuha Rusul" in 2351?
You can also answer brother.
GOD bless you.
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Peace jkhan.
Where exactly have you answered that question? I have gone over your last few posts in this thread and it is not clear to me where you have answered it.
Paste the answer again please brother.
Thanks.
GOD bless you.
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Peace jkhan.
Fine if you do not want to answer.
We cannot restrict messengers to only those who brought scripture or sent to their own people .
Qoran has a range of definitions for messengers as far as the different verses of Qoran teach us from the context, here is a listQoran/scripture is a messenger
Malaika are messengers,
Prophets are messengers.
Some humans(Beni Adam) are messengers .
Meriem was a messenger...etcMessengers are many and some are not known to us. Believing in GOD s message is accepting there are messengers including the ones we have no idea who they were/are or will be We do not need to even know about past ones because the message is universal" Seek GOD s system, devoted to GOD Alone. No other authority.
Once the message is received the messenger as far as each individual is concerned can be redundant.Meriem accepted GOD s message, and was chosen by GOD to fulfil a task and deliver GOD s message to her son "Wa Ataynahu Al Hukma Sabian" by bringing him up according to GOD s instruction and support, just like all other messengers who follow GOD s instruction and do not deviate .
One may argue every mother does the bringing up but not every mother has been chosen by GOD for a specific task.
For me 2351 indeed includes Meriem with the other messengers mentioned from 2323.
GOD bless you.
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GLogic
It?s okay.. That?s all you have understood from quran.. So nothing more to convince you? Be satisfied with what is your belief and I will be with what is of mine..There is nothing I would like to comment on this topic (only) for you hereafter?So you have evidences and proof from quran to claim that Maryam was a messenger..Fine..But for me NO. for that i have presented enough of tangible evidence throghout. Let?s see in the hereafter who rejected the verses of God by INCLUDING or EXCLUDING Mary as a Messenger?Coz One of these ACCEPTANCEs is clear rejection of Quran..Let?s see on the day of Resurrection when God calls all Messengers to witness in which Mary also present or NOT?
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Here's another one Jill Bearup, a female prophet(ess) giving out a revelation about logical fallacies.
31 logical fallacies in 8 minutes
https//youtu.be/Qf03U04rqGQMany logical fallacies described by her can be easily found among the thread in this forum as well.