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    Mathal inthe Qur'an is differently translated as parable, example

    aya 3.59 says

    The mathal of 3isaa for God is as the mathal of Adam, He created him from dust and then told him be and he is.

    So there a mathal of Adam, what is that mathal, mathal is not something that is by itself but something that should remit us to some previous meaning.

    So what is adam's mathal.

    Salaam

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      Qur?n is rendered facilitative for comprehension

      By similes and analogies of selected instances http//haqeeqat.pk/FacilitatorBySimili.htm

      The basic purpose of a book is to preserve knowledge for the posterity of humanity. And if the knowledge, facts, information preserved in a book is for the entire humanity then it becomes all the more important that the book should be easy for comprehension since the level of intellect of human beings varies. One method to make things easier for perception is to explain a thing by comparison.

      Comparison is a rhetorical or literary device in which a writer compares or contrasts two people, places, things, or ideas. For the purpose of comparison most frequently used devices are simile, analogy and metaphor.

      Simile is when the resemblance between two objects is expressed in form. Its advantage arises from the illustration which it gives to the principal object; from the clearer view which it presents; or the more strong impression which it stamps upon the mind. A simile draws resemblance with the help of the words ?like? or ?as.? Therefore, it is a direct comparison.

      An analogy aims at explaining an unfamiliar idea or thing, by comparing it to something that is familiar. Analogy will often demonstrate how two things are alike by pointing out shared characteristics, with the goal of showing that if two things are similar in some ways, they are similar in other ways as well.

      In Arabic, the concept of simile, analogy, comparison, compatibility, commensurability is embedded in Root . Renowned Lexicographer Ibn Faris stated

      That it leads to the perception of visual comparability and correspondence of a thing with another thing; similar in some respects allowing an analogy to be struck.

      The Grand Qur?n is rendered easy by giving examples since comparative study makes the long time storage in the memory safe and easy for recalling and narrating by human beings.

      The similes and analogies are denoted by substantive nouns to express common properties and relations of things. Diversity is the most visible aspect of existence. The other aspect of existence is the universality of structures, properties and relations of things. There are no two absolutely identical things and neither there are two absolutely different things having absolutely nothing in common.

      Parable is a figure of speech, which presents a short story, typically with a moral lesson at the end. It is like a succinct narrative, or a universal truth that uses symbolism, simile, and metaphor, to demonstrate the moral lesson intended to be taught. An example of Parable is Ayah 2259.

      http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/3.59a.gif
      It is a fact that the peculiar characteristic- the analogy of Easa regarding mode of his creation determined by and in the judgment of Allah the Exalted is like the peculiarity- individuality of Aa'dam ;

      Both the names are mentioned twenty five times in the Grand Qur?n. It is the seventh time that both names are mentioned in this Ayah.

      The unfamiliar phenomenon of the creation of Easa alahissalm is analogized with the more familiar information about creation of Aa'dam.

      Analysis of this sentence in the Relevant frame 359-63 may be seen here

      Frame 17 Ayah 359-63

      And the complete narrative about Virgin Birth

      http//haqeeqat.pk/Virgin%20Birth.htm

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        The Qur'an never says that Maryam when she gave birth was a virgin. It is never said. If God gave any importance to that and that we should believe it He would have stated it. Far from that He says that He follows the same model as with everything else He creates, that is, He says "Be" an it is.

        God does nto say a word about Maryam being or not being virgin. God does not want anybody to pry into the intimay of anybody. All those needs of Maryam being officially a virgin when she gave birth, are whims of people and conjecture and taken from some oriental religion, has nothing to do with adam, nor there is any teaching in making it appear that anybody is born of a virgin.

        Mathal ar given in order to teach something. Neither is Maryam said to be a virgin after the conception of her son, neither is virginity of a mother any teaching for anybody.

        It is obnoxious the insistence on the physicology of Maryam at the same time that she is denied with arrogance her spiritual value.

        Can we leave out the virginity or not of Maryam? It is the myth of some oriental religion, not any value or any assertion of the Qur'an, even it is such a liked toy by the hadithers and it seems also by the seld called quranists.

        Also what is again the matha

        Salaam

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          Look, therefore, at the prints of Allah's mercy how He quickeneth the earth after her death. Lo! He verily is the Quickener of the Dead, and He is Able to do all things.

          Salaam

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            The Qur'an never says that Maryam when she gave birth was a virgin. It is never said. If God gave any importance to that and that we should believe it He would have stated it. Far from that He says that He follows the same model as with everything else He creates, that is, He says "Be" an it is.

            God does nto say a word about Maryam being or not being virgin. God does not want anybody to pry into the intimay of anybody. All those needs of Maryam being officially a virgin when she gave birth, are whims of people and conjecture and taken from some oriental religion, has nothing to do with adam, nor there is any teaching in making it appear that anybody is born of a virgin.

            Mathal ar given in order to teach something. Neither is Maryam said to be a virgin after the conception of her son, neither is virginity of a mother any teaching for anybody.

            It is obnoxious the insistence on the physicology of Maryam at the same time that she is denied with arrogance her spiritual value.

            Can we leave out the virginity or not of Maryam? It is the myth of some oriental religion, not any value or any assertion of the Qur'an, even it is such a liked toy by the hadithers and it seems also by the seld called quranists.

            Also what is again the matha

            Salaam

            One should not associate one's own opinions towards Allah the Exalted. Conception and virginity are two different things. The word "virgin" relates to an organ of the body.

            http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/066.%20At%20Tahrim/66.12a.gif

            And of Maryam, daughter of Imr'aan, who guarded her pudendum- chastity; thus remained virgin in life;
            This sentence is repeated twice. Since this characteristic feature of her is mentioned in Qur?n, it relates to her entire life till natural death. In biological creation the body organ of a woman that is involved is the external sex organ, in Arabic , from Root . Basic perception infolded in it was described by Ibn Faris in these words "that it leads to the perception of an opening; or intervening space- gap between two things; cleavage, rift, hole; and blooming in a thing." This word is applied to the pudenda of woman as well of a man. My respects and salutations to her with lowered chin.

            A woman is described and referred by humans throughout their history as daughter of someone so long she is unmarried; on marriage she is referred as wife of her husband, if remains virgin she continues to be referred by her father's name; she is referred by her biological brother's name; and is finally referred as the mother of so and so. Syeda Maryam is referred in Qur?n as daughter of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.096/328.%20Yoummar%20Ain%20Meem%20Ra%20age/6.gif ; sister of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.248/529.%20Haroon%20alahisalam/1.gifand the Mother of Easa alai'his'slaam. She was Virgin throughout her life whereby she could not be associated or referred by the word Wife.

            Please first read the entire information on the subject then arrive at conclusions. At least go through the link and try rebutting it.

            http//haqeeqat.pk/Virgin%20Birth.htm

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