Garden of Aden

[imrankhawaja]

ancient news of first human/s

same old story of religious texts with different versions..

it appears every new generation who held responsible to publish a work of GOD, evolved that stroy from time to time .. to make it perfect, but perfection only belong to the one who created all of the things perfectly...

POINT to ponder.. what is imperfection ?

people say sometimes its a perfect/intelligent design in universe and all over us ?
i would like to know what would be the imperfect/unintelligent design ?

its perfect because we percieve it as perfect... and on the same time we have this thing in mind that PARADISE/hereafter is perfect ... this world is not perfect...

it was a human wish from start to make a paradise for himself in which no struggle (getting food,sex,shelter,facilties) that what he can imagine/think at its best...

all that time these puny creations like human being change his direction of life and reverse his desires into patience for getting that so called paradise..

we are very less knowledgeable... example when we unable to understand a mysteriious energy that exist we named it BLACK energy coz we dnt know what the heck is this...

we dnt know what/who was behind all this religious scriptures started many many centuries before the advent of ISLAM..

i bet in the first ever versions of religious dogmas got a story of paradise and garden in it...

TRUE TEACHING vs FALSE TEACHING was/is/will always b there , our badluck is this when we insert FALSE teaching in TRUE teaching then its nearly impossible to handle ..and get to the truth...

same like every religion/nation/political parties there are supporters and haters exist one try hard to conspire against the other sometimes truth become lie and sometimes lie become truth... when all three political/religious/financial parties take a side to change a law for their benefit...

BLIND beleiving on anything is insanity...most of the times in the ending part of life human being feels like lot of things make him fool in which the GOD part plays very important role...

actually i once get trick by the very same trick... a HUGE loss of my self and my feelings..
i was about to start a new thing what me and other party required but only problem was TRUST..
the other party used the name of God as well as me that we are making our lord as a trustee...

but i found out afterwards that the very first day the party was after my money once they fullfilled the purpose they show their real face...

i only get that JUST because i believe if a party break a contract God will gona look after me... but opposite happen the perosn who use the name of God that person get everything what they wanted,, and i had a huge loss of everything... even i lost the blind trust one of the last book i have blind faith in... BIG losses... i m not able to handle that losses again once i recoverd up next time i m afraid i ll get heart attack so better use my mind insteadof briniging God in matter,
we have no idea what is REAL GOD vs THE GOD that people make out of religious texts ?

[si_di]

As i wrote they were not the first humans.

different versions but the same truth.

ther is a huge time between the ministries so it cant be a generation between them .

The rest of your post is offtopic

peace

[imrankhawaja]

aww sorry i could nt understand what u want to hear about your post.

research about Big foot
location srilanka
foot size of early human name adam
size of early human 60 meters
adams long heighted son ?shees? used to cook fish with the help of sun while he standing in the deep sea and depth of sea = knees of ?shees?

now i hope u will get what u looking for

stories with fictions and myths are more popular now a days

[si_di]

i gave an Alternate Location of Aden mostly the naration is About a place in the east .

Why always in da east?

So i gave a possible place in the West backed by greek mythology which is talking about a Garden far far west from the place
which islamic traditon are referring to.

To your last phrase, i repeat from early posts my sayings to you about your all-is-fiction mindset .It is always a base story which is true but to make it understand for the people who are listening and for people are coming after them it seemed to be fiction.

Ps.Bigfoot is only up to 8 feet tall ,-#

[imrankhawaja]

Story of Adam and eve is known to you all and their cast from the garden Aden.Now some say it is Indian because Islamic tradition say that Adam set is foot first on that island and went to arabia to search for Hawwa.

it was really very difficult for him to find her without gps and without travelling techniques.
(seems a real punishment for finding their sex partners in world unknown) hahahaha oh my gosh haha wonder how they spend years without the experiment what they did in paradise. becoz there was nobody there for lashes hahaha so their punishment was banishing from town

just forget to ask why one was in different location then other ? rotfl ( what actually happened with them who trasported them to different directions ?

islamic traditions is full of stupidity same like others traditions so better individual use his/her own brain.

that garden may b in europe under buildings who really cares

[si_di]

they were cast away because they tricked by satan,and thats why they punished to to erath not because there were chimpanzees .

there had to follow only one simple order and they failed or they should fail go or stay that was and is the misery.

[good_logic]

Peace Imran.
I see what you say , quote

i only get that JUST because i believe if a party break a contract God will gona look after me... but opposite happen the perosn who use the name of God that person get everything what they wanted,, and i had a huge loss of everything... even i lost the blind trust one of the last book i have blind faith in... BIG losses... i m not able to handle that losses again once i recoverd up next time i m afraid i ll get heart attack so better use my mind insteadof briniging God in matter,
we have no idea what is REAL GOD vs THE GOD that people make out of religious texts ?

So GOD is to blame for your losses or is it the blind faith of the book you believed in or what?
Have you investigated who is to blame?
What is the alternative solution? Go it alone just you and your cleverness/logic/"Rushduka"?
Or has that "Rushd" also been given to you by your creator and you cannot change it?
If you do go it alone, what/who garantees you success?
Juust some thoughts in your process of reflection.
Two things will help for sure, reflect and keep learning.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[imrankhawaja]

@ GL my brother u always pick examples from my personal experiences
what have nothing to do with anybody else sometimes TIME can only give answers

if i already had figured it out who is to blame i never share my personal experience may b you knowledgeable people find it for me who is to blame. before we go offtopic we need permission from the OPoster but me and you start a new thread and this time we will just discuss nature and surverys of people like me who after doing everything allright get failed in the end ( the failure is not by their mistake but mistake of other people)

example i m ready for giving exam and due to driver mistake i m unable to reach my examination room and he wasted my one year if God willed he can arrange the alternate driver but ay the first hand its God who caused that happen so even if whole world want to help that innocent kid they cant ( who is to blame now) ?

about my personal exp the matter was personal and yeh i think its my mistake i was thinking people when take a oath of God cant cheat in contract and even if they cheat God will provide them (as per quran)

but this thing never happend so either its my fault becoz also quran indicate us about a catagory who claim they beleive in God but in actuality they are fake ,on the other hand the only powerful tool they have the name of God from which they make lot people fool.

btw GL u r free to comment anything on it but try to understand whatever u comment give me atleast some though of new perception or whoever having same thing going on they can also get benefit from your posting

God bless you

[si_di]

i dont mind if you talk About personal Things her as i see you are trying to find who is to blame for something so its half-offtopic.

Maybe it helps to analyze Adam and Eves Situation whom to blame for(Satan,Eve or Adam both,all,none) their punishment.

[good_logic]

Thank you si di.
I have answered brother Imran here
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[The_Sardar]

Thank you si di.
I have answered brother Imran here
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0
GOD bless you.
Peace.

You sure it's right link? It's leads to the forum index.

[good_logic]

Thank you the Saedar.
Try this
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610422.0#new

GOD bless you.
Peace.

[The_Sardar]

Thank you the Saedar.
Try this
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610422.0#new

GOD bless you.
Peace.

Ah thank you dear sibling, Allah/God (SWTAY) bless you & your family.

[Jafar]

Peace all,

Story of Adam and eve is known to you all and their cast from the garden Aden.Now some say it is Indian because Islamic tradition say that Adam set is foot first on that island and went to arabia to search for Hawwa.

But i came across with the old greek myth of the "Garden of the Heperides" and they locate this Garden far in the West.
what do you think

Might also be Babylonian origin..
https//www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00417/AN00417634_001_l.jpg
Adam and Eve Seal, British Museum
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve_cylinder_seal

just forget to ask why one was in different location then other ? rotfl ( what actually happened with them who trasported them to different directions ?
it was really very difficult for him to find her without gps and without travelling techniques.

Perhaps Adam found Eve through Tinder?
https//pics.me.me/the-great-stoned-dragon-kicksumhunibuns-on-tinder-adam-swipes-right-38322030.png

islamic traditions is full of stupidity same like others traditions so better individual use his/her own brain.

Of course it is...

[si_di]

It is remarkable that the northcelts have a story About the origins of Humans and they call it "Asgard" Garden of the Asen ,Garden or yarden means Earth.So it means earth of Asen it could mean that Aden and Asen is the same.

[alihawa]

Peace all,

Story of Adam and eve is known to you all and their cast from the garden Aden.Now some say it is Indian because Islamic tradition say that Adam set is foot first on that island and went to arabia to search for Hawwa.

But i came across with the old greek myth of the "Garden of the Heperides" and they locate this Garden far in the West.

what do you think

PsHope you all already know by the scripture that adam and eve where not the only humans when they have to left aden to a populated area.

peace

Salamun alaykum bro,

What is the point or purpose by knowing the exact location Adam and his wife set foot for the first time on earth? I have not find in Quran that they are ever separated, nor that Adam?s wife?s name is Hawa or Eve.

What do you have in mind about this?

I am not saying that knowing the location is useless, because knowing that the location of Nabi Muhammad can not be mecca (because mecca does not have group of sidr trees as describe in 5313-14) is enough to wipe all hearsays about sirah nabawiyah, asbabun nuzul, list of shahabah and tabi?in and eventually all hadits and sunnah.

if the location is not right, i think there is a big possibility that the time is not right too. Just like what they do to nabi Isa and try to convince us that jesus is Nabi Isa by moving his timeline

we know that Nabi Isa is the nephew of Nabi Musa and Nabi Harun as indicated in 1928 and 3614 and jesus never existed and his life story is just a mix between the early life story of Nabi Isa, mid life story of Nabi Yusuf. They even try to convince us that Nabi Isa is replaced by his bad disciple in crucifiction and going up to heaven (not died yet) and will return to earth to set things right near the event of qiyamat, while Quran clearly says that Nabi Isa died after living with his ummah for a while as described in Q 5117

Please let me know your objective, so that i might aid you in this exploration.

[si_di]

What is the point or purpose by knowing the exact location Adam and his wife set foot for the first time on earth? I have not find in Quran that they are ever separated, nor that Adam?s wife?s name is Hawa or Eve.

What do you have in mind about this?

At the moment i dont know where the first contact was.is it metaphorical then it is Africa(?) is it literally then it could be any place on earth but not to be found anymore i guess.

to the rest i dont answer that would go offtopic

thanks for aid in that effort

wa slam alykoum