Petra the "Sacred City"
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Peace,
Petra and Madain Saleh or Al Ula are twin cities, they are identical and you can find the satanic temples that exist in Petra also exist in Madain Saleh. The satanic arabs at the time of Muhammad used to worship 3 female satans known by the name of allet, manet and uzza as angels daughters of Allah. And the people that lived there were powerful. You can read what i said here https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dushara
In the Quran, Petra and Madain Saleh are called the two cities or twin cities
And they said, "Why was this Qur'an not sent down upon a great man from the two cities?"
(4331).So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza? And Manat, the third - the other one? Is the male for you and for Him the female?
(5320).They call upon instead of Him none but female , and they call upon none but a rebellious Satan.
(4117).The documentary shows that all of the earliest known mosques after the death of the Prophet, up to 120 years after, all have their qiblas facing Petra (not Jerusalem or Mecca).
The earliest mosques known to us, Masjid al-Haram, Al-Masjid al-Nabawi, Quba Mosque all face towards Mecca. I did not verify the claims that some mosques pointed towards Petra or Ula but lets just accept this for the sake of the argument, how do we know the building that pointed towards Petra is Islamic or even Quranic? Is there like a Quranic way of building mosques or did the Quran even command people to build Masjids? Masjids and places of worship existed way before Muhammad. But lets even accept that the building is Islamic, doesn't it mean that after the death of Muhammad some hypocrites turned back on their hills and worshiped the dirty female satans in Petra? well it does.
Anyway the guy who made the theory was confronted by a Muslim and it was proven that he was intelectually dishonest.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y9ih4pt8_ASome historical proofs for Mecca are presented here if you want to read
http//www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2254.0.html?PHPSESSID=9686d7c522b1c20696cb33c53f4607e6 -
Hajj was established by abraham over 4000 yrs ago there is no proof that it was in petra. Allah called mecca "umm al qura" NOT mother of all "citiies". "al qura" means a place were all people perform the same thing and live in a similar manner. whenever the word qura alone is mentioned in the quran it suggests a non changing place.
we have plenty of hadiths at least 1 should suggest petra by name if dan gibson's suggestion is right since the people who wrote hadith went in full unnecessary detail about the prophets travels, what he did and what he ate and how he slept. the last famous sermon of the prophet were he performed hajj was non other than in mecca saudi arabia. Hajj was a non changing pilgramage everybody did what they saw the prophet do. the prophet was an arab from arabia god did not send him to petra to perform hajj. if the abbassid at one point changed the qibla for political reasons then i don't see how that effects the hajj pilgrimage or its location. people and the 4 caliphs performed hajj the same way they saw the prophet do. Theres never been another kaaba elsewhere other than the one in arabia.
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Now Masjid Al Haram in Mecca is full of polytheist So Allah revealed to you
O you who have believed indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram( after this, their year).And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.
(Even though your number are very few you should not fear because if you are 20 you can over come 200 plus Allah will reinforce you with more than 5000 Angels)
House of Allah is ruled by polytheist rotfl something need to be done about this , this is a serious matter.
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Why there has to be any holy city at all. Wouldn't all cities be holy? They are all in God'earth, on te earth God created.
Holyness is not something of the heart?No, Holiness is something that is declared and set by a ruler.
Then why no historical evidence of the prophets of bani israeel or their people ever coming to Mecca to perform ritual of hajj which was established by their father Abraham?
Because they never had such ritual.
Hajj was established by abraham over 4000 yrs ago there is no proof that it was in petra.
There is no evidence that Abraham established any ritual.
There is no evidence that Abraham established any ritual in Petra or any other places.
There is no evidence that the ritual named Hajj today in Saudi Arabia was established by Abraham.
There is no evidence that the ritual named Hajj today in Saudi Arabia was performed by Abraham, Solomon, David, Jesus, Moses, John or other Israelites / Judaist figures.Yet why does anyone need such evidence?
If anyone wanted to established any ritual anywhere, Mecca, Yemen, Jerusalem, Fuji Mountain, Red Rock, Borobudur Temple, Angkor Wat etc.. feel free to do so! -
Abraham is an allegory for word RHM/Rahman, also analogous with Hindu Brahma, i.e. God of Creation, like it or not. Translated as "Father of Creation/Womb/rhm or simply Father Creator. For some reason Arabic uses hainstead of Ha in Ibrahim, probably a deception by early scribes. A ritual of circulating around the cube symbolizes universal law, the quintessence of life and death. The cube itself is an old hermetic symbol of the universe, also nicely depicted in the Zionist' "Star of David", which symbolizes four main elements, which combined create the symbol of a star and the cube inside. The cube itself represents the twelve, as it contains twelve lines needed to draw a cube. Twelve is a number of time and reality, it represents 12 calendar months/one year symbolizing the cycle of human life. This is the level of predestination.
Why they circulate around it for 7 times is the symbol of representation of human life cycle and spiritual development within the universe, 7 heavens or 7 chakras or seven planets (as depicted in ancient cosmology) and the days of the week. This is the level of will. You do not really have a free will considering you did not even choose to be born and a lion's share of your life was controlled by the outside forces. But the more you learn and the wiser you become the less mistakes you make and your decisions become calculated rather than spontaneous. You also learn to take responsibility, instead of following orders of your parents/teachers/spiritual teachers/government and sort of. You are never 100% free, however, it depends on how you define freedom. The knowledge shall set you free is the wise saying.
Together 12+7 give 19, which is summarized in the bism-allahu-al-rahman-al-raheem, which is the summarized abbreviation of the Cosmic/Universal Law and Creation and birth. Numerology freaks probably never thought about the symbol of 19, they would rather parrot how many times they find this number in the book rather than try to percieve it's meaning, symbol behind it.
The covenant between Ab-Raham and God is the allegory for the bounding force between the Creator and the Creation, what above so below and vise versa. To live in harmony with the Cosmic law is to respect the Creator and the Creation, to "transgress" is to break the covenant, which is never broken actually but my backfire you in the ass, i.e. the karmic law. Word Allah comes from root ALH which means 'binding unity'. The creation is never separate from the creator.
Of course the cunning clergy and the rulers (teachers of the law and PH-risees/Fe-ru-s/ph-ra-oh-sees) know about this stuff and feed you garbage. Why they live in harmony with the Cosmic law is because they are wiser than the pasture and the pasture is who follows orders. Giving out an order and to execute it are very opposite things, the latter is what is usually percieved as taking responsibility, even though such 'responsibility' is created by manipulation and hierarchy. A slave is never really responsible for his/her life, because his/her responsibility is taken by the above standing.
There is also no such thing of human nature or the notion that human is an animal. Human is a 100% consciousness equipped with a weak body, which is not even adapted to the wild nature and needs shelter, clothing and hundreds of other precautious actions to survive, none of which are needed for an animal. Even lust and the passion towards female body and fetishes are 100% culturally formed. There are still tribes who run around naked and do not care about naked female counterparts around them. Since the day of birth you absorb cultural patterns in you, which develop ego in you, i.e. your perception towards the self. Culture defines who you are and unless one can think "outside of the box" (the very expression speaks for itself) you will remain confined. This forum is a fantastic example of a cognitive dissonance of people following the dogmas and cultural cliche, which are deprived of their respective symbolism, yet calling themselves "free minds", with an exception of a few.
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No, Holiness is something that is declared and set by a ruler.
Because they never had such ritual.
There is no evidence that Abraham established any ritual.
There is no evidence that Abraham established any ritual in Petra or any other places.
There is no evidence that the ritual named Hajj today in Saudi Arabia was established by Abraham.LOL DO YOU READ THE QURAN?. I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT ITS SHOCKING THAT PEOPLE WANT OUR FAITH CENTRED AROUND THE QURAN THEN DENY HAJJ. DO YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND READ THE SCRIPTURE AND FOLLOW ABRAHAM'S JOURNEY IN THE QURAN FROM START TO FINISH AND HIS DUTY AND WHAT HE DID TILL HIS THE END?. THE MAJORITY ARE TALKING FOR JUST TALKING WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE.
There is no evidence that the ritual named Hajj today in Saudi Arabia was performed by Abraham, Solomon, David, Jesus, Moses, John or other Israelites / Judaist figures.
IN ORDER TO FIND OUT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL 3 SCRIPTURES WORD FOR WORD AND SEE FOR YOURSELF AND NOT TALK OUT OF NONSENSE.
Yet why does anyone need such evidence?
If anyone wanted to established any ritual anywhere, Mecca, Yemen, Jerusalem, Fuji Mountain, Red Rock, Borobudur Temple, Angkor Wat etc.. feel free to do so!NOW THATS RIDICULOUS. YH ESTABLISH YOUR ONE HAJJ AND CIRLE AROUND YOUR OWN HOUSE AND CALL IT ALLAHS PILGRIMAGE. IF YOU DONT WANT TO GO HAJJ THEN DONT BUT STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE. THE EVIDENCE IS IN THE SCRIPTURE WHICH YOU CLEARLY DONT BOTHER TO READ.
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No, Holiness is something that is declared and set by a ruler.
Because they never had such ritual.
There is no evidence that Abraham established any ritual.
There is no evidence that Abraham established any ritual in Petra or any other places.
There is no evidence that the ritual named Hajj today in Saudi Arabia was established by Abraham.LOL DO YOU READ THE QURAN?. I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT ITS SHOCKING THAT PEOPLE WANT OUR FAITH CENTRED AROUND THE QURAN THEN DENY HAJJ. DO YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND READ THE SCRIPTURE AND FOLLOW ABRAHAM'S JOURNEY IN THE QURAN FROM START TO FINISH AND HIS DUTY AND WHAT HE DID TILL HIS THE END?. THE MAJORITY ARE TALKING FOR JUST TALKING WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE.
There is no evidence that the ritual named Hajj today in Saudi Arabia was performed by Abraham, Solomon, David, Jesus, Moses, John or other Israelites / Judaist figures.
IN ORDER TO FIND OUT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL 3 SCRIPTURES WORD FOR WORD AND SEE FOR YOURSELF AND NOT TALK OUT OF NONSENSE.
Yet why does anyone need such evidence?
If anyone wanted to established any ritual anywhere, Mecca, Yemen, Jerusalem, Fuji Mountain, Red Rock, Borobudur Temple, Angkor Wat etc.. feel free to do so!NOW THATS RIDICULOUS. YH ESTABLISH YOUR ONE HAJJ AND CIRLE AROUND YOUR OWN HOUSE AND CALL IT ALLAHS PILGRIMAGE. IF YOU DONT WANT TO GO HAJJ THEN DONT BUT STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE. THE EVIDENCE IS IN THE SCRIPTURE WHICH YOU CLEARLY DONT BOTHER TO READ.
It seems you have a broken keyboard?
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I never understood why you would kiss that black stone so that your sins be forgiven. Isnt it blasphemous? Well, i think that the "Kaaba" in fake Mecca will be destroyed to ignite another luciferian Jihad. Still, the destruction of the Kaaba is a part of Islamic Eschatology which is sadly based on Hadith. Thats why Dan Gibsons research is very important, at least for the free minded, who think outside the box ) Religion is a part of the Government. Etymologically Government means Mind Control. Govern=Control Ment=Mind.
Peace and GOD bless you all.
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Quran Clearly says (2196) -
Wa (and) atimmu (terminate/finish) al Hajja (hajj) wa (and) al Umarata (Umrah) lillaah (for Allah)
'Atimu' and 'Yatim' are from same root. So if 'yatim' means -who is sponsorless/finished, then surely 'atimu' will mean 'de-sponsor'/'terminate'.
Yet translators of quran unfortunately translate the word 'atimu' as 'complete' instead of 'finish' or 'terminate' or 'de-sponsor' in translation of 2196, just reversing(distoring 180 degree) the message/instruction of arabic Quran!
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The last Hajj was done after the doctrine of submission prevailed and the polytheists were beaten. The last Hajj for Allah was also meant to be a Symbol that everything belongs to the one and only GOD. The last Hajj for ALLAH was the last part of the blessed Muhammads campaign overthrowing the ruling elite at that time to show them whos BOSS. End of story.
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I never understood why you would kiss that black stone so that your sins be forgiven. Isnt it blasphemous? Well, i think that the "Kaaba" in fake Mecca will be destroyed to ignite another luciferian Jihad. Still, the destruction of the Kaaba is a part of Islamic Eschatology which is sadly based on Hadith. Thats why Dan Gibsons research is very important, at least for the free minded, who think outside the box ) Religion is a part of the Government. Etymologically Government means Mind Control. Govern=Control Ment=Mind.
Stone as holy object / relic has been part of Semitic tradition / culture since ancient times.
By semitic I mean including Phoenicians, Greek, Syrians, Babylonians...
There has been a white stone, red stone which has common characteristic as part of meteorites falling from space..
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BaetylusUpon seeing a piece of rock falling from 'heaven', ancient people might regard those as a 'holy object' sent down from God(s) in heaven.
Falling star (which now commonly named as Meteorite) was and to some people still being regarded as a projectile, thrown by God(s) / Angel(s) to chase away an eavesdropping devil. (Q 675)I see it as 'ridiculous' but it's harmless thus I don't see it as 'blasphemous'...
The black stone has been destroyed in the past, the current condition of black stone in Mecca is a cemented fragment of stones which according to legend, was once a one piece of rock.
https//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Black_Stone_front_and_side.PNG
Definitely religion is a tool of an Empire, invented to control the mind of it's populace...
