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Noah ,the ark and location

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    good_logic
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    Peace si di.
    But when the boat reached its destination Noah was told to "Ahbitou" from it.
    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      si_di
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      @goodlogic

      thanks,my arabic is not so good i thought in this ayat it is meant to embark the ship whereas it is Arrival Scene

      well this ayat is also to be worth to ponder on is god indicating that other nations will follow Noahs ex-People?

      And (to other) nations We will soon give enjoyment, thereafter painful torment from Us will touch them." (i.e., befall them)

      Maybe AD and Thamud?

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        I suppose it means all the "Ummam" including us.

        Some humans are good and some are not. The human summary(All the generations!) is in that aya.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          si_di
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          I suppose it means all the "Ummam" including us.

          Some humans are good and some are not. The human summary(All the generations!) is in that aya.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

          That is a possibility

          Maybe you can help me to a previous thought i have about the boat because it was ayat before that "aHbitou""to go of"the ship .

          wa-qla rkab fh bi-smi llhi majrh wa-mursh inna rabb la-ghafrun ramun
          Translation
          He said, ?Board it In the Name of Allah it shall set sail and cast anchor. Indeed my Lord is all-forgiving, all-merciful.?

          What do arabs say when they go on ship/Horse/bicyle verb+pr?positon ?

          Do they say something with fi?I thought ?la is the proper Pr?position?

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            good_logic
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            It depends on what you are boarding.If it is a camel you say. "Irkabu Alaihi"( On it)

            If it is a car or a boat you say"Irkabu Fiha". My understanding of the difference is the latter you are really going inside it (Fiha).
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              si_di
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              My understanding is also that you go inside so it is a closed boat like a submarin but a submarin would break in two if it is hit by a big wave like describe in the quranic Noah Story.

              The best shape would be like that of emergency ships closed and round,there is an Author who came also to that Thesis.

              So to a round Ark" irkabu fiha" would fit

              psSymbolically it Shows the circle of life with Noahs People ending and beginning with Noah a the People/animals on Board

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                si_di
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                the shape of the ark is subject for a debatte

                ?Whenever the chiefs of his people passed by him, they mocked at him??

                If he build a cubicBoat with a Hut on top that would look like House so no reason for a Mockery.But Noah responded in a bold way back

                ??If you ridicule us now, verily we too shall mock at you, even as you mock (at us). But soon will you know who it is on whom will descend a penalty which will cover them with shame and upon whom will fall a lasting penalty.? 1138-39

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                  si_di
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                  it is remarkable that the quran is quiet when it comes to the material of the ark it only says".. well planked and nailed"

                  and the bible says gopher wood what is unknown

                  just a sugestion to you what would happened to an ark made of wood when it a rock ,yes there would be whole that is fatal.

                  this made to draw a hypothesis of a round ark made of iron and shaped like a discuss not to get damaged when the flood pushed the ark against a hill .

                  thats farfetched i know but hey we are freeminds and who knows maybe thats right.

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                    si_di
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                    In the last movie about Noah ,when he dreamed about gods punishment for his People he went to his Father to tell him that Judgement comes.

                    He already knew its coming but he asked how and Noah told him by Flood ;he saidi thought it would be through fire ;thats what his Father told him meaning Idriss.

                    But he was correct it wasn?t just water also eruptions occured

                    "1140. Until, when Our command came, and the volcano erupted, We said, ?Board into it a pair of every kind, and your family?except those against whom the sentence has already been passed?and those who have believed.? But those who believed with him were only a few."

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                      si_di
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                      Did you find a volcano in the Middle east?

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                        Did you find a volcano in the Middle east?

                        There were old volcanoes that used to be alive you could say

                        https//farm1.staticflickr.com/46/167575172_4db0e3c305_b.jpg

                        There are more in Yemen here in this link https//www.volcanodiscovery.com/yemen.html

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                          si_di
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                          There were old volcanoes that used to be alive you could say

                          Jemen fits more because of its near by Ocean Location and the monsoon that occors in that area ,that would explain the "Opening of the heaven"rain Scenario.

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                            si_di
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                            Why did god not tell Noah to go to another land if we take a local Flood in consideration and it is proofed to be so.

                            why Building a Boat

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                              si_di
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                              I guess the armenien hoaxers made in China did not read all the scriptures dealing with Noah so that they would have had chosen a more suitable place.

                              ?...the curse of Allah be on him if he is one of the liars.? (Surah an-Nr 24

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                                Do we have found the Ark?
                                https//nypost.com/2018/11/19/explorers-claim-they-found-noahs-ark-on-top-of-mountain-in-iran/

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                                  The remnants of the Ark were unveiled in the last few decades, archaeologist Ron Wyatt identified it in Turkey near Mount Uddi, it fits the bible and Qur'an definition.http//www.covenantkeepers.co.uk/images/stereo_photo1.JPG

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