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Allah is ENERGY

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

    That's all.

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      You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

      That's all.

      Salaam brother

      You need to distinguish between creator and creation. There is no God if you call it energy. We cannot give shape or form to God. We cannot perceive in our present capacity what God is.
      You can harvest energy but not God.
      You can control energy but not God.
      You can create energy but not God.

      We are just a creation and in our earthly capacity we cannot perceive what God is.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        There is no God if you call it energy.

        https//encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcTjbhXsd6UN4Z2OW9YSa4kAvrTZY1_i9IZfbJdh1nlR9mUiOZ8Wew

        He creates man/matter from magnetic particles (atoms). (962)

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          https//encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcTjbhXsd6UN4Z2OW9YSa4kAvrTZY1_i9IZfbJdh1nlR9mUiOZ8Wew

          He creates man/matter from magnetic particles (atoms). (962)

          Are you suggesting "" means magnetic particles or atoms? If so how you got this meaning?

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Are you suggesting "" means magnetic particles or atoms? If so how you got this meaning?

            of course..

            961 Read in (the) name/validity (of) your LordLaw the One Who creates (ie. "creation" = LordLaw of Cause of Effect)

            962 He creates man/matter from a clingingmagnetic substanceparticles (matter).

            https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34318282_2109835465899700_7710964505466896384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=ed986fef4cee0f91760ef77d6d99f91b&oe=5CD47E9C

            https//i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/b8/ca/b4b8caf5461c6bc0873167596bd319ec.jpg

            https//kaiserscience.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/all-in-one-ecosystem-from-atom-to-biosphere.jpg

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              You can harvest energy but not God.
              You can control energy but not God.
              You can create energy but not God.

              76.30. You cannot will unless "Energy" wills.

              Except atoms are empty space and there is no "YOU"

              There is "NO GOD (YOU)"

              and what is known as "YOU" is the delusion (dreams)

              1031 Who controls hearing and sight?

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                imrankhawaja
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                You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                That's all.

                exactly i have no idea but i have a valid and logical thing to think about i.e who is the creator of ENERGY and if you want to ask it in your own method then.

                what is the cause of the EFFECT ( energy)?

                i think you know lot about energy kindly explain me about dark energy scientists apparently failed to understand it yet but rest of the energies they atleast have idea so you can share your knowledge about it. good for readers peace

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work.

                  That's it.

                  "It does not require many words to speak the TRUTH"

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work.

                    That's it.

                    brilliant can we have some examples and tell us little about RED part

                    although u can use and get help from physics i dun mind.

                    i know i can google it too but wana hear your views?

                    God bless you

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

                      so who comes first?

                      A. Allah

                      B. Energy

                      A or B?

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        so who comes first?

                        A. Allah

                        B. Energy

                        A or B?

                        so apparently here is the equation

                        we are relying our equation based on the factor of TIME?

                        who will set the limits of TIME ?

                        atleast i see we have two big enemies that can challange GOD.
                        energy and time.

                        at some point in past these two and lot others were dietes of worship.and THEN ch 112 refutes all those sub gods. new model of God.
                        your model is bit old mate lol.

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          What's the point if you cannot decide between A or B?

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                            hawk99
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                            GOD is best described with His 99 attributes,

                            Yep!

                            And sorry, energy is not among them. nope

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              THEN ch 112 refutes all those sub gods.

                              As I said, you have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                              Premise 1 Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earthEVERYTHING. (2435)

                              Premise 2 Allah = Light (metaphor) = Energy

                              Therefore

                              Chapter 112 The Law of Thermodynamics

                              1121 Say "He is ENERGY, One,"

                              1122 "ENERGY is Absolute (matter is 0),"

                              1123 ENERGY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created

                              1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to ENERGY.

                              BUT

                              When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)

                              Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.

                              Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in another part of it? (285)

                              Allah = Fire

                              Therefore, 1 (Allah/Energy) NOT EQUAL 0 (matter/you/fire)

                              He creates man from a clingingmagnetic substanceparticles (matter = 0 / empty space). (962)

                              Therefore

                              Say He, Allah/Energy, is One. (1121)

                              1. Energy = 1

                              2. Matter = 0 (empty space)

                              (0 = "We hear, we obey" ... ELSE, deluded / insanity / shirk)

                              There is no reality but ENERGY / ALLAH (1).

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                lol ok so we have atleast these kinds of similar energies.
                                nuclear, kinetic, potential, dark so one is comparable to another how 1124 fits in it.

                                i think whatever u know about physics is just a start of exploring new universes of atoms and stings theory whatever bla bla is just a start i wonder u come to conclusion that FAST seems u know all hidden things about energy(matter) ?

                                Therefore lets put gravity in it

                                Chapter 112 The Law of universal gravitation

                                1121 Say "He is GRAVITY, One,"

                                1122 "GRAVITY is Absolute ,"

                                1123 GRAVITY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created

                                1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to GRAVITY.

                                police

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  What else?

                                  Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

                                  There is no reality but ENERGY / ALLAH (1).

                                  Think ...

                                  Okay.

                                  so who comes first?

                                  A. Allah

                                  B. Energy

                                  A or B?

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                                    Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

                                    Does Allah do work?

                                    2117

                                    Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

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                                      kaltun
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                                      Does Allah do work?

                                      2117

                                      Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

                                      SLM

                                      with do all respect

                                      He said, "O Iblis! What prevented you that you (should) prostrate to (one) whom I created with My Hands? Are you arrogant or are you of the exalted ones." Quran 3875 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/38/75/default.htm

                                      Do not they see that We created for them from what have made Our hands, cattle, then they (are the) owners? Quran 3671 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/36/71/default.htm

                                      may Allah guide us to the straight path

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                                        SLM

                                        with do all respect

                                        He said, "O Iblis! What prevented you that you (should) prostrate to (one) whom I created with My Hands? Are you arrogant or are you of the exalted ones." Quran 3875 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/38/75/default.htm

                                        Do not they see that We created for them from what have made Our hands, cattle, then they (are the) owners? Quran 3671 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/36/71/default.htm

                                        Thanks brother for the verses.

                                        We need to understand usage of "hands" in a language. For example

                                        Afriend ask you for help in some problem. You cannot help him and say "sorry my friend nothing is in my hands so I cannot help you".

                                        How do you understand the red part?

                                        God bless you.

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          Does Allah do work?

                                          2117
                                          بَدِيعُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ‌ۖ وَإِذَا قَضَىٰٓ أَمۡرً۬ا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ ۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ

                                          Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

                                          of course ...

                                          https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49509462_2266135846936327_4640214952144011264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=2ac0f731e234af0ec6dc7ddf1b9ad714&oe=5CC22DE8

                                          and He only "says" BE is ENERGY

                                          ... so who comes first?

                                          A. Allah

                                          B. Energy

                                          A or B?

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