Children of Adam
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If you look in dictionnaries under alif-dal-mim you will see. I tried to copy but it does not allow me.
At any rate, aadam are bashar, they were there already but God Blows of His spirit into them, and then become aadam and it is to these bashar on whom God has blown of His spirit that the mala'ika are told to postrate.
The word form is the same as akbar, or altaf, that is a superlative, and one of the meanings of words or this root is skin, the upper layyer, something that is added. The aadam would be the latest added humanity. Adiim al ard, is the surface of the earth.
So aadam is the equivalent of homo sapiens after the homo sapiens on which God has blown of His spirit. And the word is used in singular and plural just as we use homo sapiens in plural or singular whether we think of it as a species or as individual.
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We created you, then We shaped you, then We said to the angels 'Bow yourselves to Adam'; so they bowed themselves, save Iblis -- he was not of those that bowed themselves.
All those "you" are plural.
Salaam
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Salaam
Lets see what Quran tells us
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And when your Rabb said I am going to appoint a successor in the land,
They said are you appointing in it who spreads disorder in it and sheds blood......Please see God has used here "Jaala (to appoint/designate)" and not "khalaqa (to create)". It conveys that homo sapiens were living like animals and Malaika (controllers) were seeing them creating disorder and shedding blood. The verbs "spreads" and "sheds" are in present tense in the verse.
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It conveys that homo sapiens were living like animals and Malaika (controllers) were seeing them creating disorder and shedding blood.
Please stop the 'blasphemy' against animals.
Human does well on shedding blood of his own species, not doubt about it, proven again and again.
Within the Primates family Chimpanzees are closely behind, it's well known fact now that there are 'tribal war' among the chimps where they organized themselves in group to massacre another group of chimps in order to gain control of an area of land, just like human..
Thus no wonder that upon comparison; Chimp's DNA are the closest in similarity to human within the primate family.Orangutan and Bonobo, totally different story.. there has NOT been any occasion where Orangutan and Bonobo murdered one of their own species.
While there is an occurrence of brawl/fight within Orangutan society, between alpha-males to decide who will be the male leader of the group and earn the right to mate will all of the females. But the loser is not killed / murdered (unlike what happened in human).Bonobo so far is the champion within the Primates kingdom in terms of 'peacefulness', they're the role model for hippies society in human with long held motto of "Make Love not War". They uses sex to make peace when conflicts arises.
7 Things Bonobos Can Teach Us About Love and Sex
https//www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-dawn/201202/7-things-bonobos-can-teach-us-about-love-and-sexLet's hope that Bonobo will never be living like Human or Chimps.
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And when your Rabb said I am going to appoint a successor in the land,
They said are you appointing in it who spreads disorder in it and sheds blood......Please see God has used here "Jaala (to appoint/designate)" and not "khalaqa (to create)". It conveys that homo sapiens were living like animals and Malaika (controllers) were seeing them creating disorder and shedding blood. The verbs "spreads" and "sheds" are in present tense in the verse.
peace novice,
its not like that, i have another theory in mind how controllers find out about bloodshedding of humans?
because before human the authority/consciousness/self was only provided to JINNs thats y they already have an idea what gona happen if u give the abilities to creations like us.
on other words they were already experienced about that type of specific creations lol (michiefmakers)or they have slight knowledge/guess of future outcomes of creations.
about creation and appointment both exist side by side its not a big issue,
first u will make/train/develope an officer than u can appoint/post him.
creator also first create then appoint. -
peace novice,
its not like that, i have another theory in mind how controllers find out about bloodshedding of humans?
because before human the authority/consciousness/self was only provided to JINNs thats y they already have an idea what gona happen if u give the abilities to creations like us.
on other words they were already experienced about that type of specific creations lol (michiefmakers)or they have slight knowledge/guess of future outcomes of creations.
about creation and appointment both exist side by side its not a big issue,
first u will make/train/develope an officer than u can appoint/post him.
creator also first create then appoint.Salaam brother
I was not giving my theory about malaikas but what Quran says. The present tense used in the verse shows malaika were aware of what human being were doing.
Anyway that is not the topic of this thread. It is about "children of Adam".
Brother what do you think about traditional story of Adam. Did God create a single human being with His hands from dust and then created his partner from him and then human race spread through incest?
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Salaam brother
I was not giving my theory about malaikas but what Quran says. The present tense used in the verse shows malaika were aware of what human being were doing.
Anyway that is not the topic of this thread. It is about "children of Adam".
Brother what do you think about traditional story of Adam. Did God create a single human being with His hands from dust and then created his partner from him and then human race spread through incest?
peace brother,
if i m not wrong you are saying that ?quran said malaika were aware of what HUMANBEING were doing? TIME here is the issue at what time/space angels were aware?
1 at the time of creation?
2 at the time of evolution?
3 time in between both of them ?logically malaika should have asked that question 13.7 yrs ago approx
at the beginning of creation process of cosmos. anyway its not clear how they were aware about human being when there were no humanbeing existed before appointment of khilafat. although if they saw homosaphien killing other one it was not a thing to ponder lot of other animals are involved in killing/hunting what was so special in that animal animal ?BOLD part
i just represent my views at another post about this topic perhaps it helps.
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610428.msg420823#msg420823
God bless you.
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Salaam brother Imran
if i m not wrong you are saying that ?quran said malaika were aware of what HUMANBEING were doing? TIME here is the issue at what time/space angels were aware?
1 at the time of creation?
2 at the time of evolution?
3 time in between both of them ?Malaika said that, when their Rabb said, I am appointing a successor on the earth.
logically malaika should have asked that question 13.7 yrs ago approx
at the beginning of creation process of cosmos.The earth was already there, when our Rabb said I am appointing a successor on the earth.
230anyway its not clear how they were aware about human being when there were no humanbeing existed before appointment of khilafat.
Khalifa is a succssor from root kh lm f ( ف which means to succeed, to come after. Human being were there and were given knowledge to become successor.
although if they saw homosaphien killing other one it was not a thing to ponder lot of other animals are involved in killing/hunting what was so special in that animal animal ?
Brother that animal animal was going to be a successor that is special about him. Other animals were not chosen to be successor on the earth.
God bless you.
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Dear Imran...
It's long time I responded you with... Hope you keep fine..
Okay... Khalifa is successor... That I do agree with basic meaning of Quran and root... But why everyone take this khalifa as only Human...
God asked malaika and they told about disorder and blood shedding... Malaika knew only what they taught with and what they perceived with.. Even malaika couldn't identify what Adam explained and then how malaika will know Adam or his successors will make disorder .. Point to think... Clearly human Adam was not created while they discussed this... But malaika definitly knew about it's own brotheren who were created by fire but not designated or given the state of malaika... Jinns were always living in Janna with their flaws and weeknesess.... Malaika knew they were trouble makers. Malaikas definitly misunderstood that Jinns gonna be placed on the earth as khalifas away from Janna...
It's mystry whether God informed of the new creation of human to malaika but God only told gonna place khalifa which In fact includes Jinns.... I doubt God informed Adam creation to malaika... Are we the only khalifa? If so then it's a serious mistake...
Meanwhile God created Adam with the intention of placing human also as khalifa together with Jinns... Mainly to Ibada (serve) Him as a slave be it obedient or disobedient but slave anyway...
Once Adam is created he was taught every names.. Most probably about the place Adam is originallegally meant to live which is earth... But when it was referred to malaikas they were unable to name them... They didn't know what Adam knew even though Adam was new as creation... Priority is pretty clear... Then the great feud.. Iblees seems to be having no issues of Jinns or highly ranked malaikas but only to Adam... Coz of clear discrimination shown by the will of God to Adam...
Then story goes on.. And Adam and his wife and iblees and all jins were as planned shifted to the place called earth each other as enemies.... And guidance came to khalifas of this world...
So came to this world and become as successors.. Coz no one was here on earth as successors.. Malika knew only one part that's Jinns that's why they referred trouble makers while they were pure... Doesn't God know what His plan was... While Malika didn't know what God knew and planned.. Only came to know once Adam was created and we're ordered to sujud...
That's why we are children of Adam...Note malaikas not only knew that khalifas will make disorder and she'd blood but they knew there will be a day of ressurection and everything will be settled one day... They never knew that a human also will be created to be part and parcel of the Jinns..Gods saying to malaikas of I know what you don't know is a hidden plan.. But malaikas only deduced eith what is already available which Jinns only... I extremely conclude that malaika referred only the Jinns who shed blood and not human... Once Adam was created it was spontaneously known factor that humans also subjected to God's kingdom... Day of ressurection is not a decision after the creation of Adam but it's a well know thing for Jinns and their so called malaikas...
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Dear Imran...
It's long time I responded you with... Hope you keep fine..
Okay... Khalifa is successor... That I do agree with basic meaning of Quran and root... But why everyone take this khalifa as only Human...
God asked malaika and they told about disorder and blood shedding... Malaika knew only what they taught with and what they perceived with.. Even malaika couldn't identify what Adam explained and then how malaika will know Adam or his successors will make disorder .. Point to think... Clearly human Adam was not created while they discussed this... But malaika definitly knew about it's own brotheren who were created by fire but not designated or given the state of malaika... Jinns were always living in Janna with their flaws and weeknesess.... Malaika knew they were trouble makers. Malaikas definitly misunderstood that Jinns gonna be placed on the earth as khalifas away from Janna...
It's mystry whether God informed of the new creation of human to malaika but God only told gonna place khalifa which In fact includes Jinns.... I doubt God informed Adam creation to malaika... Are we the only khalifa? If so then it's a serious mistake...
Meanwhile God created Adam with the intention of placing human also as khalifa together with Jinns... Mainly to Ibada (serve) Him as a slave be it obedient or disobedient but slave anyway...
Once Adam is created he was taught every names.. Most probably about the place Adam is originallegally meant to live which is earth... But when it was referred to malaikas they were unable to name them... They didn't know what Adam knew even though Adam was new as creation... Priority is pretty clear... Then the great feud.. Iblees seems to be having no issues of Jinns or highly ranked malaikas but only to Adam... Coz of clear discrimination shown by the will of God to Adam...
Then story goes on.. And Adam and his wife and iblees and all jins were as planned shifted to the place called earth each other as enemies.... And guidance came to khalifas of this world...
So came to this world and become as successors.. Coz no one was here on earth as successors.. Malika knew only one part that's Jinns that's why they referred trouble makers while they were pure... Doesn't God know what His plan was... While Malika didn't know what God knew and planned.. Only came to know once Adam was created and we're ordered to sujud...
That's why we are children of Adam...Note malaikas not only knew that khalifas will make disorder and she'd blood but they knew there will be a day of ressurection and everything will be settled one day... They never knew that a human also will be created to be part and parcel of the Jinns..Gods saying to malaikas of I know what you don't know is a hidden plan.. But malaikas only deduced eith what is already available which Jinns only... I extremely conclude that malaika referred only the Jinns who shed blood and not human... Once Adam was created it was spontaneously known factor that humans also subjected to God's kingdom... Day of ressurection is not a decision after the creation of Adam but it's a well know thing for Jinns and their so called malaikas...
Salam to All,
I am also agree of what Jkhan said, the Malaika were thinking the creation man was going to be like jinn by shedding blood.
God bless you