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    kaltun
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    Slm jkhan,

    how about this , if your truly beleave in Allah/God , you wont be bad person, but if you are an KFR i dont think your that nice person , so i dont think you gonna mis him/her ( even if its your relative).

    O you who have believed, do not take My enemies and your enemies as allies, extending to them affection while they have disbelieved in what came to you of the truth, having driven out the Prophet and yourselves because you believe in Allah , your Lord. If you have come out for jihad in My cause and seeking means to My approval, . You confide to them affection, but I am most knowing of what you have concealed and what you have declared. And whoever does it among you has certainly strayed from the soundness of the way. Quran 601 http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=60&verse=1

    And Moses said, "O my people, if you have believed in Allah , then rely upon Him, if you should be Muslims."Quran 1084 http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=10&verse=84

    so Trust in Allah is a goodthing

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      good_logic
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      Peace jkhan.
      I like reading surah 37, the one you mentioned in your post about two friends on opposite sides

      3750
      They will come to each other, and confer with one another.

      3751
      One of them will say, "I used to have a friend.

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      "He used to mock `Do you believe all this?

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      " `After we die and turn into dust and bones, do we get called to account?' "

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      He will say, "Just take a look!"

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      When he looks, he will see his friend in the heart of Hell.*

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      He (will go to him and) say, "By God, you almost ruined me.

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      "If it were not for my Lord's blessing, I would have been with you now.

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      "(Do you still believe) that we die,

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      "only the first death, and we never receive any requital?"

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      Such is the greatest triumph.

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      This is what every worker should work for.

      Indeed brother, redemption and correction of evil ways are the greatest triomph.

      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        jkhan
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        Slm jkhan,

        how about this , if your truly beleave in Allah/God , you wont be bad person, but if you are an KFR i dont think your that nice person , so i dont think you gonna mis him/her ( even if its your relative).

        O you who have believed, do not take My enemies and your enemies as allies, extending to them affection while they have disbelieved in what came to you of the truth, having driven out the Prophet and yourselves because you believe in Allah , your Lord. If you have come out for jihad in My cause and seeking means to My approval, . You confide to them affection, but I am most knowing of what you have concealed and what you have declared. And whoever does it among you has certainly strayed from the soundness of the way. Quran 601 http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=60&verse=1

        And Moses said, "O my people, if you have believed in Allah , then rely upon Him, if you should be Muslims."Quran 1084 http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=10&verse=84

        so Trust in Allah is a goodthing

        Yes kaltun... But Ibrahim and Noah begged for their loved ones even while living. And I don't see in Ibrahim's father any fault is per quran... But only denied God and remained in his faith.... How dangerous thst is.... So isn't it our utmost duty to find out what is actually guidance.... Anyway.. Their lovedones destined for hell... And in sha Allah Ibrahim n Noah will be in jannah.... Can Ibrahim live happily.... Yes Ibrahim won't disobey God. But he has a free mind while living.. While his father beg for water to share with them... Can he still be neglecting him.... Coz we such verses in Quran....
        I am really clueless.... I know the one who deserved only goes to hell.... But didn't Ibrahim n Noah argued with God. Do you think that argument will be over while they see them in hell.... I wonder...

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          jkhan
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          Peace jkhan.
          I like reading surah 37, the one you mentioned in your post about two friends on opposite sides

          3750
          They will come to each other, and confer with one another.

          3751
          One of them will say, "I used to have a friend.

          3752
          "He used to mock `Do you believe all this?

          3753
          " `After we die and turn into dust and bones, do we get called to account?' "

          3754
          He will say, "Just take a look!"

          3755
          When he looks, he will see his friend in the heart of Hell.*

          3756
          He (will go to him and) say, "By God, you almost ruined me.

          3757
          "If it were not for my Lord's blessing, I would have been with you now.

          3758
          "(Do you still believe) that we die,

          3759
          "only the first death, and we never receive any requital?"

          3760
          Such is the greatest triumph.

          3761
          This is what every worker should work for.

          Indeed brother, redemption and correction of evil ways are the greatest triomph.

          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

          I totally lost the memory of these verses... Main reason I presented these verses is coz we don't lose memory.... So we know our past and we know which of those of our loved ones are in hell.... Can't imagine that.... Didn't Allah say save yourself and family from the hell fire... Isn't our duty then to do something to make it possible... But if we fail that's biggest loss.. I totally not gonna worry those even loved ones who are manifestly wrong in all aspects... But those who being good and with much better character and still not came to the right path even still say we believe in God but doing totally contrary to what is in his book.... I have no idea....
          God bless you and kaltun and may Allah guide all our loved ones ..

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            kaltun
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            SLM jkhan,

            what is love ? its a feeling , an emotion , this is giving to us to being tested ( this is pure my opinion), like pride also an emotion... Quran gives us samples not to be pride on this wordly life and also this life on earth is for a little time, its over before you know it , and when he gonna ask you how long you stayed on earth ...
            He will say, "How long did you remain in the earth, (in) number (of) years?"
            They will say, "We remained a day or a part (of) a day; but ask those who keep count."
            He will say, "Not you stayed but a little, if only you knew. quran 23 112-114 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/23/st61.htm#112

            dont get to much attached to this worldly live its a test environments
            Know that the life (of) the world (is) play and amusement and adornment and boasting among you and competition in increase of the wealth and the children, like (the) example (of) a rain, pleases the tillers its growth; then it dries and you see it turning yellow; then becomes debris. And in the Hereafter (is) a punishment severe and forgiveness from Allah and Pleasure. But not (is) the life (of) the world except (the) enjoyment (of) delusion. Quran57-20 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/57/20/default.htm

            but why do you think you know the heaven and hell ?? you dont know whats exactly is there , how the "life " is at there , we got some glimps via Quran , but not much ... my thought are

            • Hell ----> very bad place to be , so bad i cant imagine how bad it is there
            • Heaven ---> place to be sun, i also cant imagine what good things, nice things there are . but i know thats MY goal , to get there .....

            also an thought to ponder, as you give us example about the missing a person in heaven , how do you think about the people who are treated very bad on this life , how do they gonna experience their present there , would the bad thought or bad memory to be wiped or this emotion feeling would this switched off ( or removed) if yes, then we are not the same being ..... we can go hours on this but long story to shortnen .......
            dont think this way, dont watch others , dont see the splinter in the eyes of others but the beam in your own eye, concentrate on your own life , your own doing ... try always do the right thing ...... and escpecially dont JUDGE and point fingers , its not our duty ....

            @Good logic, thx for the verses ...

            May Allah guide us to the strait path

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              huruf
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              I do not hink there is any gap in being, any breach. This world is not far or in another world than the next life.

              Lately, pondering in that sentene "wherever you may turn there is the face of God". I pondered that whenever we feel love from something or somebody, person animal, or anything else, it is God's love. So wherever we may turn there is the love of God. We are simply, through human or animal love given a taste of that which God has unlimited, so that we become fond of Him.

              Happiness should always walk with us.

              Salaam

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                good_logic
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                huruf, you are right, There is nowhere to go where GOD is absent.

                Those who think they are running away from GOD are in reality running back to Him.

                Then we will be gathered together and sorted.
                Sister I tell you a funny story about meeting GOD
                My grandson said to me do we go on an air balloon to meet GOD?(He was watching air baloons on his tablet)This is when I realised he has a sense of humour .
                So I said to him I know two more jokes about air Baloons
                My grand father invented the cold air balloon ,but it never really took off.
                I recently went on a ballooning holiday, I put on four stones.
                My grandson thinks he is funny(I wonder where he gets it from?) He says to me "Grandad, you have a heart of a lion", I stay very serious and say to him"Yes,and a life time ban from Chester zoo!"
                I was being happy really!
                GOD bless you sister.
                Peace.

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                  jkhan
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                  SLM jkhan,

                  what is love ? its a feeling , an emotion , this is giving to us to being tested ( this is pure my opinion), like pride also an emotion... Quran gives us samples not to be pride on this wordly life and also this life on earth is for a little time, its over before you know it , and when he gonna ask you how long you stayed on earth ...
                  He will say, "How long did you remain in the earth, (in) number (of) years?"
                  They will say, "We remained a day or a part (of) a day; but ask those who keep count."
                  He will say, "Not you stayed but a little, if only you knew. quran 23 112-114 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/23/st61.htm#112

                  dont get to much attached to this worldly live its a test environments
                  Know that the life (of) the world (is) play and amusement and adornment and boasting among you and competition in increase of the wealth and the children, like (the) example (of) a rain, pleases the tillers its growth; then it dries and you see it turning yellow; then becomes debris. And in the Hereafter (is) a punishment severe and forgiveness from Allah and Pleasure. But not (is) the life (of) the world except (the) enjoyment (of) delusion. Quran57-20

                  Thanks for the comments and makes sense in a way... But we can't say we forget our past though it says people tend to say we stayed Day or half... That day or half we don't know in the here after what they mean by... Just take the example in which we say when our record book is presented to us about our life history they say nothing is left out in this.. What sort of book is this... To say that we need to know how long we lived...
                  Anyhow God is great.. If He says that Janna is delight kingdom then who are we to deny it... May be with the time we may be forgetting our loved ones.... Same way if one lose his wife or husband in this life with the time he or she marries another and live happy life almost totally forgetting the past... Yeah people won't be able to live with past. And also when there is delight in front of you sadness go out of the window....
                  Thank you Hurf and GL...yes.. Your comments make sense as well. I like that comment "happiness should always walk with us.. "let's see what's God's plan...
                  God bless you all

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                    hawk99
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                    Great Topic, thank you jkhan.

                    When I think of Jannah via Quran it reminds me that Jannah is all that is positive.

                    We were your allies in worldly life and in the Hereafter. And you will have
                    therein whatever your souls desire, and you will have therein whatever you request.

                    We will be judged as individuals on Yawm al-Qiyamah and our reward or punishment
                    will be individualistic.

                    We will each have our very own paradise. pr

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                      jkhan
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                      @ Hawk..
                      I thought the topic is bit emotional coz of love to others whom we are attached with... But you say a great topic... .... Let's hope it benefit anyone to think in their own way...
                      Thank you
                      God bless us...

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                        @ Hawk..
                        I thought the topic is bit emotional coz of love to others whom we are attached with... But you say a great topic... .... Let's hope it benefit anyone to think in their own way...
                        Thank you
                        God bless us...

                        Yes a great topic, emotions are a part of a healthy person. To love, laugh,
                        hope for, cry, feel joy, argue, support, meet goals, and to be appreciated by
                        others are natural.

                        Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be
                        kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to
                        them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honor.
                        And out of kindness, lower to them the wing of humility, and say ?My Lord! bestow
                        on them Thy Mercy even as they cherished me in childhood.

                        And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates
                        that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you affection
                        and mercy. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought.

                        Why not hope that Allah will join us with our loved ones in the hereafter? group

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                          jkhan
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                          Why not hope that Allah will join us with our loved ones in the hereafter? group

                          that's the concern... pr

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                            We love people in this life because of our relationship with them and how they've treated us but we're blind to who they truly are because only God knows the sum of their deeds, intentions, etc. So anyone who ends up in hell deserves it and we'll be able to see them the same way that God does on the Day of Judgement even if they raised us. Our memories will also fade like people mentioned and it will become easier to accept. Not to mention the other wonderful companions and happiness that will surround us including the Gracious Himself, the Loving, the Forgiving, Most Kind, be He Glorified.

                            In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

                            5020 And the horn is blown on the promised Day.

                            5021 And every soul is brought, being driven, and with a witness.

                            5022 "You were heedless of this, so now We have removed your veil, and your sight today is iron!"

                            2362 And We do not burden a soul except with what it can bear. And We have a record that speaks with the truth, they will not be wronged.

                            2856 You cannot guide whom you love. But it is God who guides whom He wills; and He is fully aware of those who receive the guidance.

                            9114 And Abraham seeking forgiveness for his father was only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became clear that he was the enemy of God, he disowned him. Abraham was kind, compassionate.

                            3123 And whoever rejects, then do not be saddened by his rejection. To Us is their ultimate return, then We will inform them of what they had done. God is fully aware of what is in the chests.

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                              jkhan
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                              We love people in this life because of our relationship with them and how they've treated us but we're blind to who they truly are because only God knows the sum of their deeds, intentions, etc. So anyone who ends up in hell deserves it and we'll be able to see them the same way that God does on the Day of Judgement even if they raised us. Our memories will also fade like people mentioned and it will become easier to accept. Not to mention the other wonderful companions and happiness that will surround us including the Gracious Himself, the Loving, the Forgiving, Most Kind, be He Glorified.

                              In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

                              5020 And the horn is blown on the promised Day.

                              5021 And every soul is brought, being driven, and with a witness.

                              5022 "You were heedless of this, so now We have removed your veil, and your sight today is iron!"

                              2362 And We do not burden a soul except with what it can bear. And We have a record that speaks with the truth, they will not be wronged.

                              2856 You cannot guide whom you love. But it is God who guides whom He wills; and He is fully aware of those who receive the guidance.

                              9114 And Abraham seeking forgiveness for his father was only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became clear that he was the enemy of God, he disowned him. Abraham was kind, compassionate.

                              3123 And whoever rejects, then do not be saddened by his rejection. To Us is their ultimate return, then We will inform them of what they had done. God is fully aware of what is in the chests.

                              Peace Brandon
                              it makes perfect sense...only thing my love towards my family and believers makes me worried... that's all ... i have to get out the emotions ....
                              Thank you for your valuable comment... i hope some eccentric people would claim you also me and fake account.. rotfl
                              sorry..
                              God bless you..

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                                Sultan_Brandon
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                                Peace Brandon
                                it makes perfect sense...only thing my love towards my family and believers makes me worried... that's all ... i have to get out the emotions ....
                                Thank you for your valuable comment... i hope some eccentric people would claim you also me and fake account.. rotfl
                                sorry..
                                God bless you..

                                I don't think God will blame you for loving your family members if they're decent people from what you perceive. Stay compassionate, that's a good thing. And there's no need to worry about happiness in the Hereafter. On that Day we'll see things clearly, God willing. May the peace, mercy and blessings of God be upon you kind and beautiful soul.

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