Could GOD create a Big Rock that even HE Himself wouldn't be able to lift it up?
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Dear...
Honestly I don't get the topic either or the explanation given by you...
anyhow, if anyone asks such a query.. Then he or she has not read Quran properly...
The verses which talk of They have not estimated God the right estimate... Or the verse Allah will hold the entire heavens / skies and the Earth is in His both Hands... Does any rock look bigger or heavier than that for anyone who raised the question with that topic...
Waste of time actually to continue such argument..
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Salam to All,
The question of imrankhawaja 2+2=5.. We all know that is not logic. But what if God mad us with illogical mind. Then can this be true
20-20=25-25
5x4-5-4=5x5-5x5
4(5-5)=5(5-5)
Now cancel the brackets from both sides and we have
4=5
Which is
2+2 = 5God bless you all
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This thread remind me of LastDay3.
Happy new year LastDay3, if you are reading this.
I hope this thread has not made you an Atheist?!!!
GOD bless you .
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Dear...
Honestly I don't get the topic either or the explanation given by you...
anyhow, if anyone asks such a query.. Then he or she has not read Quran properly...
The verses which talk of They have not estimated God the right estimate... Or the verse Allah will hold the entire heavens / skies and the Earth is in His both Hands... Does any rock look bigger or heavier than that for anyone who raised the question with that topic...
Waste of time actually to continue such argument..
God bless us...I agree that this question is a waste. It's a paradoxical trap made by misotheist to "humiliate" Allah/God/The Creator (SWTAY) .
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Here is a old topic of this https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14724.20
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Ah, it's not the one i seek. The one specific response against the paradox question.
there are lot of responses there too from lot of members.
@ centi its also possible that from the eye of needle camel can pass ?
confusion comes when we want camel to pass alive? lmaosame its easy to put egg in glass bottle ? only if u keep egg in oil with special methods.
in our mind the value of 2 =2 hence adding 2 make it four thats what the value of adding both. if on the numbers start somebody give five a value of four then we are having 2+2 =5
i mean if he create a new creation and in their laws they change the shape/value of 4 in to 5 then there he can do it. possible for him .Rock is the most tricky question ? becoz ?can? two times make two condition in one event hence we have to breakup
How rocks formed and for making that rock what type of lava u need etc?
and btw God will never pick up/lift the rock, he make it happen through his malaika by giving command. whatsoever the weight will be, it does not matter becoz more malaika will join the force untill the weight finalised example earth and planets are also big rocks holding by forces of nature. and if you multiply it billion times billion more malaika will
b there?we can say there is not any creation which God along with his malaika cant control?
this question is for the physical god having face and beard living in sky who is going gym for lifting heavy weights and now he have a competetion to proving himself as god, its very easy for him to trick people, he just say here is the rock i cant lift it so you guys win lol -
there are lot of responses there too from lot of members.
@ centi its also possible that from the eye of needle camel can pass ?
confusion comes when we want camel to pass alive? lmaosame its easy to put egg in glass bottle ? only if u keep egg in oil with special methods.
in our mind the value of 2 =2 hence adding 2 make it four thats what the value of adding both. if on the numbers start somebody give five a value of four then we are having 2+2 =5
i mean if he create a new creation and in their laws they change the shape/value of 4 in to 5 then there he can do it. possible for him .Rock is the most tricky question ? becoz �can� two times make two condition in one event hence we have to breakup
How rocks formed and for making that rock what type of lava u need etc?
and btw God will never pick up/lift the rock, he make it happen through his malaika by giving command. whatsoever the weight will be, it does not matter becoz more malaika will join the force untill the weight finalised example earth and planets are also big rocks holding by forces of nature. and if you multiply it billion times billion more malaika will
b there?we can say there is not any creation which God along with his malaika cant control?
this question is for the physical god having face and beard living in sky who is going gym for lifting heavy weights and now he have a competetion to proving himself as god, its very easy for him to trick people, he just say here is the rock i cant lift it so you guys win lolMy response would be Yes, Allah/God (SWTAY) could do it but he decides not to because what would be the point of making a rock that He "cannot" lift when he created the heavens & the earth which he can easily lift, Our Creator is not stupid for this, he is obviously smarter than that, otherwise the creation of the heavens & the earth would not be a successful job by Him.
2218 الم تر ان الله يسجد له من فى السماوات ومن فى الارض والشمس والقمر والنجوم والجبال والشجر والدواب وكثير من الناس وكثير حق عليه العذاب ومن يهن الله فما له من مكرم ان الله يفعل ما يشاء
Alam tara anna Allaha yasjudu lahuman fee alssamawati waman fee al-ardiwaalshshamsu waalqamaru waalnnujoomu waaljibaluwaalshshajaru waalddawabbu wakatheerun minaalnnasi wakatheerun haqqa AAalayhi alAAathabuwaman yuhini Allahu fama lahu min mukrimin inna AllahayafAAalu ma yasha/o
Did you not see that to God submits what is in the heavens and what is on the earth, and the sun and the moon and the stars and the mountains and the trees and what moves, and many of the people, and many who have deserved the retribution. And whoever God disgraces, then none can honor him. God does what He wills/wishes.Again like i stated, this question is absolutely redundant & paradoxical.
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Peace The Sardar.
If someone asked me to lift a rock so heavy(impossible to lift ),my first thought would be how can I use what I have as tools to do this?
So GOD is intelligent and creative. May be he will create a giant truck lift to lift it (the bigger the stone, the bigger the truck lift to match!!). Why would that be an impossibility or a failed attempt at doing the task asked by "logical" people.GOD has not lifted it,so what is the problem? Some will say ,but the question has not been answered!
Never the less a demonstrartion will be done to prove that GOD can create whatever GOD wants.
Anyway I agree with most,not a logical question to ask.
GOD bless you.
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Peace The Sardar.
If someone asked me to lift a rock so heavy(impossible to lift ),my first thought would be how can I use what I have as tools to do this?
So GOD is intelligent and creative. May be he will create a giant truck lift to lift it (the bigger the stone, the bigger the truck lift to match!!). Why would that be an impossibility or a failed attempt at doing the task asked by "logical" people.GOD has not lifted it,so what is the problem? Some will say ,but the question has not been answered!
Never the less a demonstrartion will be done to prove that GOD can create whatever GOD wants.
Anyway I agree with most,not a logical question to ask.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I came up with a alternate response and it's similar to yours i think. Which is No, because that "rock" simply does not exist because Allah/God (SWTAY) is CAPABLE OF ALL THINGS (220, 2106, 2109, 2148, 2259, 2284, 326, 329, 3165, 3189, 517, 519, 540, 5120, 617, 841, 939, 114, 1677, 1845, 226, 2445, 2920, 3050, 4139, 4821, 572, 596, 641, 6512, 671). Even IF He "could not" lift that "rock", he would create a tool that would lift the rock. And when the atheists object by claiming this is a illogical answer then i would say If you don't like this answer and claim it's illogical then you shouldn't ask illogical questions to undermine or humanize our Creator.
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@ sardar and gl
he dnt need to make a rock or whatever becoz he use to get his work done by the creation he made himself.
all rocks in this earth is an example of it.
creation upon creation YOUR god is real king he dnt need to do anything at all.what he can do for you ? can he grow wheat for you ?, can he make the sun go running and give u light? can he come to save you from hunger, fear, loss ? even he dnt need to send anything as a message lot of free messengers are availaible within the humans making his task easy ? when kings of human do unjustice they are exactly copying God but hez been doing from start.
God is not in person but he get things done with help of malika,energy,light,dust, bacteria etc all his creations are passing their time helping others.
you didnt read that thread sardar otherwise your answer will be different.
its more a JOKE than question
becoz two conditions applied here can &can? seperate it and u ll understand. -
@ sardar and gl
he dnt need to make a rock or whatever becoz he use to get his work done by the creation he made himself.
all rocks in this earth is an example of it.
creation upon creation YOUR god is real king he dnt need to do anything at all.what he can do for you ? can he grow wheat for you ?, can he make the sun go running and give u light? can he come to save you from hunger, fear, loss ? even he dnt need to send anything as a message lot of free messengers are availaible within the humans making his task easy ? when kings of human do unjustice they are exactly copying God but hez been doing from start.
God is not in person but he get things done with help of malika,energy,light,dust, bacteria etc all his creations are passing their time helping others.
you didnt read that thread sardar otherwise your answer will be different.
its more a JOKE than question
becoz two conditions applied here can &can? seperate it and u ll understand.What thread? The one you linked? I think i did but i may have forgotten important replies.
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Yes I agree Imran.
GOD bless you.
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Yes. He could create an immovable rock since God is capable of all things but He would have to permanently sacrifice His power to move it after creating it and would cease being God. Because if He gave up His power to prevent Himself from moving it then He would lack the power to return to being Omnipotent. And if he only removed "the part of Himself" that can move it, while still remaining Omnipotent, then that means He didn't actually "remove that part" and would be faking it since Omnipotence and a lack of power is a logical contradiction. Regardless, the question is pointless because it teaches us nothing and God has no reason to do that anyway. It tends to be asked by Atheists who think they have some kind of checkmate.
