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Allah is ENERGY

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    believe in whatever you want... God, Lord Krishna, Zeus etc...

    but here is the "description"...

    That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator/Sustainer of everything There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (4062)

    delusion. noun. an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

    That is Allah your LordLaw. There is no LordLaw but Him, the Creator/Sustainer of everything. So serve/align with Him . He is responsible for everything. (6102)

    Allah is ENERGY.. accordingly

    He made all gods same god (Energy). (385)

    I have no issue over the name and identifying Allah from traits/descriptions/"meanings/validity"...

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      imrankhawaja
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      believe in whatever you want... God, Lord Krishna, Zeus etc..(as well as energy)

      Allah is ENERGY.. accordingly

      No Allah is not energy according to 112.

      say him energy or whatever but dont say Quran said that. otherwise u are in a confusion/error mode.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        First Premise Allah is the Light. (2435)
        Second Premise Say He, Allah, is One. (1121)


        Therefore Say He, Allah the Light, is One. (1121)


        and the Light, is ENERGY.

        That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator/Sustainer of everything There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (4062)

        That is Allah your LordLaw. There is no LordLaw but Him, the Creator/Sustainer of everything. So serve/align with Him . He is responsible for everything. (6102)

        Therefore, Allah is Energy; in Chapter 112.

        • 1121 Say He, ENERGY, is One (1).

        • 1122 ENERGY is He on Whom all depend (0 / atoms / transformation of ENERGY).

        • 1123 ENERGY Who has not given birth cannot be destroyed
        nor is ENERGY born can be created.

        • 1124 And none is like ENERGY
        (ie. Everything is ENERGY and transformation of ENERGY, "1" (Allah/Energy) is not equal to "0" (You/Transformation of Energy/Consciousness to ENERGY))

        https//image.slidesharecdn.com/workforceenergypptfinalwiki-121002110722-phpapp02/95/work-force-energy-ppt-final-wiki-3-728.jpg?cb=1349176235

        The worst animals before God are the deaf and dumb, those who do not use their reason. (822)

        These people of ours have taken LordLaws apart from Him / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy. Why do they not produce a clear authority concerning them? Who could do greater wrong than someone who invents a lie against Allah / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy? (1815)

        They attribute to Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature what they themselves dislike cannot prove while their own tongues utter the lie that the best belongs to them. There is no doubt at all that they will receive the Fire and that they are people who go to excess. (1662)

        ie. against ONE/SAME GOD (ENERGY) and sectarians >> Divide & Conquer = Slavery

        Debt/Economic Slavery = Competition/Monopoly = Ecological Disorder = Global Warming = Climate Change = Arctic Methane = The Sixth Mass Extinctions = Kill Earth = Kill all life on Earth, livable planet out of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in our observable universe; is ungrateful.

        https//i.ytimg.com/vi/Gh30Kx1o5lI/maxresdefault.jpg

        You think it is a minor issue, while in God's sight it was most serious. (2415)

        IF Allah
        THEN Energy
        ELSE Shirk.

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          imrankhawaja
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          First Premise Allah is the Light. (2435)
          Second Premise Say He, Allah, is One. (1121)


          Therefore Say He, Allah the Light, is One. (1121)


          FIRST PREMISE the Allah is (light= creation) of heavens and earth. now i m gona detailed the equation.

          Allah is ( Air,gravity,controller,assembler,desingner) of heavens and earth.

          all creations are giving their servitude to the the purpose what they created for including energy.

          so Allah is all in all. by power/dominion

          SECOND premise Allah is one

          therefore Allah the master of Light is one 112.

          there is nothing we can compare to God .(including light/energy/air.) all
          are uncompareable if light would be exception in 1124 it should written that way ? there is nothing like him apart from ( light )? . but light is already mentioned by name noor so noor is Not Allah according to the principles of QURAN.

          he is the master/lord of sirius.

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            FIRST PREMISE the Allah is (light= creation) of heavens and earth. now i m gona detailed the equation.

            Allah is ( Air,gravity,controller,assembler,desingner) of heavens and earth.

            all creations are giving their servitude to the the purpose what they created for including energy.

            so Allah is all in all. by power/dominion

            SECOND premise Allah is one

            therefore Allah the master of Light is one 112.

            there is nothing we can compare to God .(including light/energy/air.) all
            are uncompareable if light would be exception in 1124 it should written that way � there is nothing like him apart from ( light )� . but light is already mentioned by name noor so noor is Not Allah according to the principles of QURAN.

            he is the master/lord of sirius.

            The word "LIGHT" is the metaphor for ENERGY...

            The metaphor of His Light is that... (2435)

            AND indeed

            Allah IS THE LIGHT

            Everything is LIGHT UPON LIGHT (transformation of ENERGY)

            https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31955964_2096438007239446_5245547879065452544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=7136adb294288f5cd12d70f424c206b8&oe=5C99E458

            so we are not the Light and 98% of the atoms in the human body replaced every year... that leaves our existence is "0".

            1 can never be 0
            (none equal Him)

            Conclusion

            • Allah exists

            • You don't

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              imrankhawaja
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              light = energy we agree they can be metaphors.
              but how can energy/fire/light = God as per 112 ?

              the understanding of light what (WE) have got a source from parent STAR sun. and we know thats due to the chemical process going on SUN.

              THE metaphor of the SOURCE of our light is described there ch 24 when comapring with the source from God = the verse you send.

              here its appears the (light of universe vs the source of universe)
              even one of his creation (light) is way complicated then light we have in sun. thats why verse select (?like?/example). while describing.

              metaphor upon metaphor.

              about my existence dunt worry about it u r going to far in metaphoric approach what is not according to my metaphoric approach. we exist i m writting u and u r replying me. rest of the people witnessing it. still we dnt exist ?

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                we exist i m writting u and u r replying me. rest of the people witnessing it. still we dnt exist ?

                we are being conscious of ALLAH...

                just like dream, it is not real

                but we're being conscious of that reality...

                and need to "wake-up" (enlightenment).

                (i.e. SAY <- "is a command / wake-up" He, Allah/Energy, is ONE. (1121) <- Life's purpose/main mission, ELSE Shirk)

                Issue

                • Our brain/consciousness lie to us during sleep/dream..

                • How can you be sure that your brain/consciousness does not lie to you in this reality? What's your proof?

                Your brain is lying to you in this reality...

                There is no scientific proof for your existence.

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  hmm its intresting to know you are talking about brain.

                  we (human scientists) are just in our first step of understanding only 1% of our brain yet.(have a break here)

                  Sleep is metaphor to death as per (QURAN) if i remember.
                  you saying sleep and awake are same no they are opposite sides like negitive positive in magentic/electricity.

                  so example is

                  awake = life
                  sleep = death .

                  your undersatinding is in conflict with book(quran) i m pointing out in every post.

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    Sleep is metaphor to death as per (QURAN)

                    death (0) is REAL, our reality...

                    and the goal of all life IS DEATH (0 or NO DISORDER).

                    Death (0) is the perfect state of ENLIGHTENMENT...

                    There is no contradiction.

                    And when you said, ´Musa, we will not believe in you until we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. Then We brought you back to life after your death, so that perhaps you would show thanks. (255-56)

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      zero = 0
                      death is not = 0

                      the worth of body upon death become zero.hence we burried/fire it.

                      DEATH is process when lifeforce of body expire by whatever reason.

                      DEATH / LIFE
                      Sleep/dreams/awake everything got a VALUE in the records of CREATOR.

                      DNA and fingerprints are assigned to us as VALUE/ID of us on a loan based TIME.

                      death is ending of body not the ending of life. a process continue what we say afterlife a big mystery. not life of body but the ?character/self? that use to live in that body.

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                        And when you said, ´Musa, we will not believe in you until we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. Then We brought you back to life after your death, so that perhaps you would show thanks. (255-56)

                        yeh look here they were unable to see.if it would be (light) moses must make SUN GLASSES fot the viewrs. O0 it appears they were able to see light but they were unable to see the God of moses. which was not light as per event?

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          zero = 0
                          death is not = 0

                          the worth of body upon death become zero.hence we burried/fire it.

                          DEATH is process when lifeforce of body expire by whatever reason.

                          DEATH / LIFE
                          Sleep/dreams/awake everything got a VALUE in the records of CREATOR.

                          DNA and fingerprints are assigned to us as VALUE/ID of us on a loan based TIME.

                          death is ending of body not the ending of life. a process continue what we say afterlife a big mystery. not life of body but the �chatacter� that use to live in that body.

                          death is the metaphor for 0 ....

                          perfect enlightenment or absolute surrender/Islam.

                          and when you're in the state of sinless.

                          before that death, you need to be in the state of death before death itself..

                          i.e. be "0" and align your nature to NATURE ( = Solat)

                          That's DIE, BEFORE DEATH.

                          We hear NATURE / SUNNATULLAH
                          We obey NATURE / SUNNATULLAH

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            yeh look here they were unable to see.if it would be (light) moses must make SUN GLASSES fot the viewrs. O0 it appears they were able to see light but they were unable to see the God of moses. which was not light as per event?

                            "...we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. .."

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              main mission, or purpose of life is...

                              SAY He, Allah/Energy/Sunnatullah, is ONE. (1121)

                              ie. you are 0 (die before death)

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                              die, before it is too late.

                              But you cannot will (1+1+1+..), unless Allah wills (1 = ENERGY = SUNNATULLAH). (7630)

                              ie. you are 0 (die before death)

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                main mission, or purpose of life is...

                                you're made of atoms, and thus be an atoms (0)...

                                we hear NATURE/SUNNATULLAH/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN
                                we obey NATURE/SUNNATULLAH/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN

                                don't be delusional...

                                ie. being arrogant to the SUNNATULLAH / LordLaw of NATURE / EcoLogic ... ie. Kafir of the Sunnatullah / Kafir of the Way of Allah / Kafir of the LordLaw of Nature.

                                https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28661255_2066003336949580_1299231724530863137_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=1fea62a6e42a28d9a5f9133acd39ea60&oe=5CFAB844

                                As for those who deny Our "NATURAL" Signs (Sunnatullah, Way of Allah, LordLaw of Nature, ENERGY, Mathematical Pattern, EcoLogic) and are arrogant regarding them, the Gates of Heaven will not be opened for them, and they will not enter the Garden until a camel goes through a needle´s eye. That is how We repay the evildoers. (740)

                                VALIDITY? + TRUTH? = SOUNDNESS?
                                Nature + Nature = Nature (Paradise)
                                Nature + Unnature = Unnature (Hell)
                                Unnature + Nature = Unnature (Hell)
                                Unnature + Unnature = Unnature (Hell)

                                Half truth, whole lies...

                                On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full (with Kafir of the SUNNATULLAH/ LordLaw of Nature/ Energy / EcoLogic)? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

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                                  imrankhawaja
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                                  "...we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. .."

                                  255 And recall when you said, ?O Moses! We will not believe in you unless we see God face to face!? Thereupon thunder struck you as you were looking on.

                                  when did they see GOD in person?
                                  linking 254 with 256 giving more accurate picture

                                  254 When Moses returned, he said to his people, ?O my people! You have hurt your own ?self? by worshiping the calf. So, turn in repentance to your Maker and kill your ego (rebellious mentality). This will be best for you in the Sight of your Maker.?

                                  killing is metaphorical here in 254

                                  256 Then We revived you, and raised you from a dead to a living nation so that you might show gratitude.

                                  perfect pair of metaphors of life and death in shape of travelling towards light from darkness. they have an amazing thing called calf same like u have amazing thing called energy.

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                                    255 And recall when you said, �O Moses! We will not believe in you unless we see God face to face!� Thereupon thunder struck you as you were looking on.

                                    when did they see GOD in it ?

                                    linking 254 with 256 giving more accurate picture

                                    254 When Moses returned, he said to his people, �O my people! You have hurt your own �self� by worshiping the calf. So, turn in repentance to your Maker and kill your ego (rebellious mentality). This will be best for you in the Sight of your Maker.�

                                    killing is metaphorical here in 254

                                    256 Then We revived you, and raised you from a dead to a living nation so that you might show gratitude.

                                    perfect pair of metaphors of life and death in shape of travelling towards light from darkness. they have an amazing thing called calf same like u have amazing thing called energy.

                                    you're free to have your own interpretation...

                                    there is no significance in it because...

                                    my interpretation, all dead people (experiencing death) are qualified to see Allah.

                                    Every self will be tasting death. (3185)

                                    Take off your sandals. (2012)

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      Do not suppose that those killed in the Way of Allah are dead. No indeed! They are alive and well provided for in the very presence of their Lord, (3169)

                                      https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31906798_2095959713953942_4246102310612107264_n.png?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=d0eee67534d9033634fa7a8042443e01&oe=5CF639B3
                                      (flow as life flows = SOLAT = align our nature to NATURE, 1+0=1)

                                      ie. live forever in this reality, "in the very presence of Allah"

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                                        good_logic
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                                        Peace brother Mahdi.
                                        I opened my computer to reply to your post but it was mostly not there. I looked at my chair and it was mostly not there either. This is when I fell onto the floor but I was not hurt because I was mostly not there !
                                        However if this post reaches you then
                                        ?There are only two worlds - your world, which is the real world, and other worlds, the fantasy. Worlds like this are worlds of the human imagination their reality, or lack of reality, is not important.
                                        What is important is that they are there. these worlds provide an alternative. Provide an escape. Provide a threat. Provide a dream, and power; provide refuge, and pain. They give your world meaning. They do not exist; and thus they are all that matters. ?
                                        Neil Gaiman, The Books of Magic
                                        Or
                                        ?There will come a time when all of us are dead. All of us. There will come a time when there are no human beings remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything.
                                        There will be no one left to remember Aristotle or Cleopatra, let alone you. Everything that we did and built and wrote and thought and discovered will be forgotten and all of this will have been for naught.
                                        Maybe that time is coming soon and maybe it is millions of years away, but even if we survive the collapse of our sun, we will not survive forever.
                                        There was time before organisms experienced consciousness, and there will be time after. And if the inevitability of human oblivion worries you, I encourage you to ignore it. God/energy/Dieu... knows that?s what everyone else does.?
                                        John Green, The Fault in Our Stars
                                        Or
                                        ?La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas."

                                        ("The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.&quot?
                                        Charles Baudelaire, Paris Spleen
                                        GOD bless you.
                                        Peace.

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          I speaks about scientific fact..

                                          Everything is ENERGY (ALLAH).
                                          and your only existence is consciousness...

                                          "Everything is energy ... This is not philosophy. This is physics." ~ Albert Einstein

                                          • delusional. n . characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

                                          Which of you is mad? (686)

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