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Why did God make most people's destiny Hell

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    That is FREE WILL, why complaining?

    and Allah already addressed that issue..

    When your Lord took out all their descendants from the loins of the children of Adam and made them testify against themselves "Am I not your LordLaw?" they said, "We testify that indeed You are! " Lest you say on the Day of Rising, "We knew nothing of this." (7172)

    So did Allah made known the terms and conditions before signing the Contract?

    Did He send the Messengers to remind you about the terms and conditions of the Contract?

    Yes? No?

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      imrankhawaja
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      So did Allah made known the terms and conditions before signing the Contract?

      Did He send the Messengers to remind you about the terms and conditions of the Contract?

      1 NO
      2 NO

      also i dunt know about this one

      3372 We have offered the trust to the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they refused to bear it, and were fearful of it. But man accepted it; he was transgressing, ignorant.

      if its true then its mean we being FOOLED or we been FRAMED ?
      why the **** mountains and trees didnt tell us not to accept it .

      its mean human being is the most stupid/ignorant creation of heavens and earth. he get tricked by creator .

      before human God was looking everywhere giving offer to everyone they said we are not stupid to accept that offer then God made the stupidiest ever thing wjat we know as humanbeing and he accepted it yay

      now get ready son for the punishment of fire hahahaha
      oooh hell what i sleected ? thats our situation

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        1 NO
        2 NO

        There is NO HONESTY in your answer, only hypocrisy...

        Can hypocrisy win your case? rotfl

        i wana file a case in universal court against God hahaha

        for buying "FAULTY PRODUCT" -> "FREE WILL"

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          imrankhawaja
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          There is NO HONESTY in your answer, only hypocrisy...

          Can hypocrisy win your case? rotfl

          oh sorry i met one messenger named as imam mehdi i m sorry i forget to mention.
          its not hypocrisy trust me. u can say short term memories issues.

          but apart from
          you i never met any messenger. the last one was about 400 yrs ago guru nanak
          and second last one was 1400 yrs ago.

          and i m only 35

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Change of topic? rotfl

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              So did Allah made known the terms and conditions before signing the Contract?

              Did He send the Messengers to remind you about the terms and conditions of the Contract?

              Yes? No?

              and you said

              1 NO
              2 NO

              Where is your proof?

              SINCE

              its not hypocrisy trust me. u can say short term memories issues.

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                imrankhawaja
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                Where is your proof?

                proof huh ?

                proof is my strong memory.(short term was under cover) lol

                in my honesty both answers are NO ask anyone they will have similar answers what i gave it to you.

                btw forget about my memory lets take help from superiors.

                you are messenger and u can access the video recording of that event when i was signing a contract show me that video if u and ur god(energy) is truthful ? hmm yes

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  So Allah send no messengers? no Books etc?

                  They swear to falsehood and do so knowingly. (5814)

                  Is that hypocrisy of the highest order or what? rotfl


                  you are messenger and u can access the video recording of that event when i was signing a contract show me that video if u and ur god(energy) is truthful ? hmm yes

                  Proven, look at your body, organs, cells, molecules, DNA etc...

                  Does it obey the terms and conditions of the Universal Contract / The Sunnatullah?

                  Why you're against these terms and conditions?

                  Say, "Can any of your partners initiate creation, and then repeat it?" Say, "Allah initiates creation, and then repeats it. How are you so deluded?" (1034)

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    So Allah send no messengers? no Books etc?

                    They swear to falsehood and do so knowingly. (5814)

                    Is that hypocrisy of the highest order or what? rotfl

                    BOLD first of all i wana answer this if u wana stick to the topic better not use those wording because i will waste half my post in ur ?PRAISE? the praise messenger and his followers never gona like.

                    coming back to topic dnt take piss by changing question again and again.
                    everything book, messengers, life, death, this post, ur post is happening in accordance to his will.

                    if there is a TRUE creator then whats hard understanding it.
                    what he send vs what we recieve is also another topic we will discuss someother day.

                    what u asked from me is did i sign a contract ?
                    NO

                    did i see any messengers apart from
                    you ?
                    NO

                    and u r messenger i have no witness u sound more troll to me thats your relaity infront of me so yeh u can say i m hypo after knowning ur relaity i still falsely say u messenger. peace

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      what u asked from me is did i sign a contract ?
                      NO

                      did i see any messengers apart from
                      you ?
                      NO

                      So you reject the Quran from Messengers?

                      Then why bother about finding out how you have signed the Contract ?

                      AND why complaining about FREE WILL? rotfl

                      You are free to choose, but you are not free from the consequence of your choice.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        Proven, look at your body, organs, cells, molecules, DNA etc...

                        ok so thats what u said when somebody asking about video meeting of signing contract?

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          Do you accept the Books/Quran from Messengers? Yes? No?

                          BECAUSE IF

                          ... you reject the Quran from Messengers

                          Then why bother about finding out how you have signed the Contract ?

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            Do you accept the Quran from Messengers? Yes? No?

                            everything is from God through messengers.

                            human messengers, non human messngers, birds messengers, electronic messengers, MSN messengers etc

                            so yeh quran is also from one of the source above possibly more than one source.

                            first quran i recieved it from a messneger who was also my frd he gifted me.

                            what you are asking from me is my personal experience in which i give honest answers do one thing ask same questions from other members lets see ho many them giving answers in yes.

                            @ memebers did anyone of you ever signed a contract?
                            @ memebers did anyone ever met with (human)Messenger of God ?

                            lets see how many say yes

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              what you are asking from me is my lerosnal

                              No... read it

                              Did He send the Messengers to remind you about the terms and conditions of the Contract?

                              So if you agree the Quran from Messenger, THEN

                              Do you agree Allah has reminded you on the terms and conditions of the Contract?

                              That is because Allah has sent down the Book with (CONTRACTUAL) TRUTH. Truly those who differ concerning the Book are in extreme schism (BREACH OF CONTRACT). (2176)

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                No... read it

                                So if you agree the Quran from Messenger, THEN

                                Do you agree Allah has reminded you on the terms and conditions of the Contract?

                                do u know what is illogical fallacy ?
                                or atleast read my post the questions are from athiest minds they dnt need to beleive in quran.

                                same quran is telling ur God is energy according to your own mind so i have to accept it too ?

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  That's the point.. IF YOU REJECT THE MESSENGER (His Books)

                                  THEN why bother about discover the TRUTH, about how you enter into the Contract?

                                  Allan send no youtube videos or USB Drive, he sent His Messengers, with Books of Allah. rotfl

                                  So if you agree the Quran from Messenger, THEN

                                  Do you agree Allah has reminded you on the terms and conditions of the Contract?

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    That's the point.. IF YOU REJECT THE MESSENGER (His Books)

                                    THEN why bother about discover the TRUTH, about how you enter into the Contract?

                                    Allan send no youtube videos or USB Drive, he sent His Messengers, with Books of Allah. rotfl

                                    thats why i am saying athiest are in peace and relaxtion

                                    beleivers like us are in hell becoz we believed in it.(blindly)

                                    and u(mehdi) have third catagory inbetween athiest and beleiver? dunno about what u feel about fear and afraid.

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      What is your answer?

                                      So if you agree the Quran from Messenger, THEN

                                      Do you agree Allah has reminded you on the terms and conditions of the Contract?

                                      Your argument

                                      thats how HONESTY works

                                      if i know i have faulty mobile/laptop/etc.
                                      i will not sale it, only if i tell the fault to the person then i can sale it.
                                      if i sale it and not tell the fault of mobile its mean i tricked the buyer.( haram earning)

                                      suddenly you're complaining about free will (is faulty mobile/laptop/etc)... <-- THE BUYER

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                                        Cerberus
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                                        Our "contract" is reason. We have it. It part of us. We are a mind and an "intelligent" body. An intelligent body is intelligent as far as going after pleasure and avoiding pain, it is the life of the beasts. Very predictable and foreseeable.

                                        Can you reject your reason ? Not really, you can ignore it though. You can get drunk. But it's still there. even if you reject it it may still send you signals that what you're doing is not truly meaningful, hence why you may get depressed and have a sense of being lost. But without reason, you can live the life of a beast and be in harmony with it, because that's what the beasts of the wild are supposed to do. They don't have what you have.

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          Can you reject your reason ?

                                          ie. The Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature

                                          Galileo Galilei — 'Mathematics is the language in which God has written the universe'

                                          Obey Nature
                                          It's the LordLaw.

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