Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
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Let just see him bring the verse and prove all messengers are prohibited from saying "I don't know" ... any? rotfl
Say "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (650)
But even the angel said
Angel Glory be to You! We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. (233)
https//i.imgflip.com/13qzus.jpg
THE UNLETTERED
Therefore, proof of Messengership.
Taught man what he did not know. (965)
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"detect" must come with "reason + evidence"
argument claim + reason + evidence <- status
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another example of "forced justice", it's time to face your F.E.A.R.
False
Evidence
Appearing
Real(mental slavery <--- "knowing too much" nonsense... opinion)
Dare to live as a human being? (vs. cattle)
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Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.ie. I DON'T KNOW (THE UNLETTERED) -> SURRENDER = I DON'T KNOW
Ibrahim was
• neither a Jew (creature of Book of Grammar/Tradition) = mental slavery
• nor a Christian (creature of emotion) = mental slavery
• but he was an upright Muslim (creature of ecoLOGIC // UNLETTERED) = FREEDOM
• He was not one of the idolaters (creature of popularity) = mental slavery
(367)
I don't want to be good anymore, I want to be right/straight path. laugh
Bob Marley – Redemption Song Lyrics
from album Uprising (1980)
Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won't you help to sing
This songs of freedom
'Cause all I ever have
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; <- THE UNLETTERED
None but ourselves can free our minds. <- THE UNLETTERED
Have no fear for atomic energy, <- creature of emotion
'Cause none of them can stop the time. <- THE UNLETTERED
How long shall they kill our prophets, <- THE UNLETTERED
While we stand aside and look? Ooh! <- mental slavery / MENTAL DEATH 12105
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfil the book. <- creature of Book of Grammar/Tradition; 6835-37Won't you help to sing <- THE UNLETTERED
This songs of freedom- <- THE UNLETTERED
'Cause all I ever have <- THE UNLETTERED
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs./Guitar break/
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.
Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfil the book.
Won't you have to sing
This songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever had
Redemption songs -
All I ever had
Redemption songs
These songs of freedom,
Songs of freedom.sorry, but you build your own prison...
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you build your own prison...
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delusional characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality.
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People of The Book
(too much illusion of knowledge)
https//cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*cbb6_xuOUTrMH362tJNPkQ.pngonly those who dare, TRULY LIVE. rotfl
https//metricpioneer.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/2-denial.jpg
We created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts they do not (DENIAL/REJECTER) understand with. They have eyes they do not (DENIAL/REJECTER) see with. They have ears they do not (DENIAL/REJECTER) hear with. Such people are like cattle. No, they are even further astray! They are the unaware. (7179)
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you build your own prison...
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I like the way Buddha looks...
Both are not passing any knowledge to anyone, but mere arrogance.... Mahdi can break record... Soon he will be burnout with 20000 post.... rotfl yayl.. Spam after spam.. Why moderators have kept such ranking.. No idea...
BTW.. Mahdi you don't know the shape of earth... It means- you don't accept science which has proved as they say world is sphere and spinning... .. So one way or other you deny them since you don't have proof to verify..
- you don't believe that earth is stationary coz you don't have knowledge... You don't have knowledge in that means you have not researched... But at least you can feel that earth is not moving... Or when you fly earth is stationary... Lol... Why not use basic physic of water keeps it's level... Or you don't care about the shape of the place you are living... OR IF YOU ACCEPT ONE OR THE OTHER YOI WILL BE EXPOSED IF PROVED OTHERWISE TO WHAT YOU CHOSE... choose one.. May be luck is with you... rotfl
Dude coz God says " don't you believe in Him, who created seven heavens one above the other and the Earth and whatever between them.. "
So to believe in Him at least you should know what he created.... If you reject both stationary and sphere spinning...then you blindly believe Him...
I know I won't get a proper reply and you will post lots spams... That will help u to become a burned out.. Anyhiw messenger has to be a burned out one... So no harm
Anyway it was a nice entertainment reading MI and IK... Both must be tired now... Is entertaining a type of guidance.. rotfl
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still with empty claims...
I believe both sides have no conclusive evidence to say it is flat or round, due to so many restrictions in life etc. Let just say, "I don't know".. that is wisdom and proof of Messengership. laugh
Scientists vote that the Earth is flat
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJwQX_MLLoThe Sun is 93 000 000 Miles Away?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJJ3YrHa-s
Earth rotation at almost 2,000 miles per hour?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO--SrdSzyU
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoGzSML_6c
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIbfM_exb4and what verse says it is round/flat?
and how good is your evidence?
relevancy of evidence?
standard of evidence?
weight of evidence?
corroborative evidence?
source of information?
consistency of interpretation?can you prove consistency from all the above? soundness?
(but when they lose an argument, and fail to support with verses from the Quran or give scientific evidence etc)
https//www.hebrew4christians.com/Clear_Thinking/Informal_Fallacies/Ad_Hominem/againsttheperson.gif
already said, but he's being proud and over confident even without proof... guess what?
You're obviously confused...
• It is not what you know (mutasyaabihat)
• It is about what you can prove (muhkamat)
Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12103)
Why say/argue/believe in something you cannot prove? lol brickwall
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ~ Albert Einstein
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i make no claim
you can't fix stupid, and stupid can't fix themselves... rotfl
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still with empty claims...
The Sun is 93 000 000 Miles Away?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJJ3YrHa-s
Earth rotation at almost 2,000 miles per hour?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO--SrdSzyU
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoGzSML_6c
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIbfM_exb4and what verse says it is round/flat?
and how good is your evidence?
relevancy of evidence?
standard of evidence?
weight of evidence?
corroborative evidence?
source of information?
consistency of interpretation?can you prove consistency from all the above? soundness?
https//image.slidesharecdn.com/201402wpathtranskidse-140225170357-phpapp02/95/methodological-questions-in-childhood-gender-identity-desistence-research-12-638.jpg?cb=1393351373
i make no claim
you can't fix stupid, and stupid can't fix themselves... rotfl
Peace MI
Good point by saying both sides have NO EVIDENCE...So to say that you must have researched the both sides unless you can't conclude that also... right?ponder of this verse.. 03191 "Men who celebrate/commemorate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, (With the thought) "Our Lord! not for naught Hast Thou created (all) this! Glory to Thee! Give us salvation from the penalty of the Fire"
May be they knew what God created to celebrate and to say God not created this in vain...
5533 O company of jinn and men, if ye have power to penetrate (all) regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye will never penetrate them save with (Our) sanction.
What you think of the verse 5533... Since you claim as a messenger, you don't need to know everything.... that's so obvious though IK failed to grasp it...but as a messenger you can't say I don't understand Quran... Right... Yes or No? So pls explain what you get by verse 5533... i won't force you... but just explain your understanding...that's enough.. i won't mock.. i promise you..
At least i wish you bring all the earth and heaven verses and explain these are the meaning of them, coz you should not be able to understand quran.. You can't say .. I don't know for this.. i guess, unless otherwise you speak...
so when you explain, let the people know, what is the shape of the earth.. fair question to ask from a messenger.. right? -
Where does it say flat / round?
Where does it infer "about the shape" being flat / round?
Which part from those verses support your theory?
Show me!
I already said Allah mention nothing that the Earth is flat.. (/round)
that is my argument.
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At least i wish you bring all the earth and heaven verses and explain these are the meaning of them, coz you should not be able to understand quran.. You can't say .. I don't know for this.. i guess, unless otherwise you speak...
so when you explain, let the people know, what is the shape of the earth.. fair question to ask from a messenger.. right?already answered...
do you undertand these ayats?
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 041704 AM
Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12103)
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 075111 AM
Say "I do not know whether what you are promised is close or whether my Lord will appoint a longer time before it." (7225)Say "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (650)
so tell them about what?
Tell lies in the name of Allah, and when Allah said nothing at all about flat earth!? brickwall
And had he attributed anything falsely to Us. We would have seized him by the right. Then, We would have severed his life-line. None of you would be able to prevent it. And this is a reminder for the righteous. And We know that some of you are deniers. (6944-49)
You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)
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Where does it say flat / round?
Where does it infer "about the shape" being flat / round?
Which part from those verses support your theory?
Show me!
This is what called straw man's argument... anyway.. i didnt say here FLAT...did i use that word to you specifically...NO..
I said Stationary...
At least find out the earth you are living is STATIONARY OR MOVING? handshake laugh -
already answered...
You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)
rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
Now you made me laugh... Knowing where i live will make my life difficult? rotfl
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This is what called straw man's argument... anyway.. i didnt say here FLAT...did i use that word to you specifically...NO..
I said Stationary...
At least find out the earth you are living is STATIONARY OR MOVING? handshake laugheverything is moving.. .how can you prove "the movement" means it is "flat/round earth"?
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rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
Now you made me laugh... Knowing where i live will make my life difficult? rotfl
Thats the joke of the century.. rotfl rotflWhat's so funny about it?
The definition of stupid people
You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)
267 And when Musa said to his people, ´Allah commands you to sacrifice a cow,´
they said, ´What! Are you making a mockery of us?´ rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
He said, ´I seek refuge with Allah from being one of the ignorant!´
268 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like.´ He said, ´He says it should be a cow, not old or virgin, but somewhere between the two. So do as you have been told.´
269 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what colour it should be.´ He said, ´He says it should be a red cow, the colour of sorrel, a pleasure to all who look.´
270 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like. Cows are all much the same to us. Then, if Allah wills, we will be guided.´
271 He said, ´He says it should be a cow not trained to plough or irrigate the fields — completely sound, without a blemish on it.´
They said, ´Now you have brought the truth.´ So they sacrificed it — but they almost did not do it.
(but when they lose an argument, and fail to support with verses from the Quran or give scientific evidence etc)
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