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Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    Where does it say flat / round?

    Where does it infer "about the shape" being flat / round?

    Which part from those verses support your theory?

    Show me!

    I already said Allah mention nothing that the Earth is flat.. (/round)

    that is my argument.

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      At least i wish you bring all the earth and heaven verses and explain these are the meaning of them, coz you should not be able to understand quran.. You can't say .. I don't know for this.. i guess, unless otherwise you speak...
      so when you explain, let the people know, what is the shape of the earth.. fair question to ask from a messenger.. right?

      already answered...

      do you undertand these ayats?
      Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 041704 AM
      Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12103)
      Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 075111 AM
      Say "I do not know whether what you are promised is close or whether my Lord will appoint a longer time before it." (7225)

      Say "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (650)

      so tell them about what?

      Tell lies in the name of Allah, and when Allah said nothing at all about flat earth!? brickwall

      And had he attributed anything falsely to Us. We would have seized him by the right. Then, We would have severed his life-line. None of you would be able to prevent it. And this is a reminder for the righteous. And We know that some of you are deniers. (6944-49)

      You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)

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        jkhan
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        Where does it say flat / round?

        Where does it infer "about the shape" being flat / round?

        Which part from those verses support your theory?

        Show me!

        This is what called straw man's argument... anyway.. i didnt say here FLAT...did i use that word to you specifically...NO..
        I said Stationary...
        At least find out the earth you are living is STATIONARY OR MOVING? handshake laugh

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          jkhan
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          already answered...

          You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)

          rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
          Now you made me laugh... Knowing where i live will make my life difficult? rotfl
          Thats the joke of the century.. rotfl rotfl

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            This is what called straw man's argument... anyway.. i didnt say here FLAT...did i use that word to you specifically...NO..
            I said Stationary...
            At least find out the earth you are living is STATIONARY OR MOVING? handshake laugh

            everything is moving.. .how can you prove "the movement" means it is "flat/round earth"?

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
              Now you made me laugh... Knowing where i live will make my life difficult? rotfl
              Thats the joke of the century.. rotfl rotfl

              What's so funny about it?

              The definition of stupid people

              You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)

              267 And when Musa said to his people, ´Allah commands you to sacrifice a cow,´

              they said, ´What! Are you making a mockery of us?´ rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

              He said, ´I seek refuge with Allah from being one of the ignorant!´

              268 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like.´ He said, ´He says it should be a cow, not old or virgin, but somewhere between the two. So do as you have been told.´

              269 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what colour it should be.´ He said, ´He says it should be a red cow, the colour of sorrel, a pleasure to all who look.´

              270 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like. Cows are all much the same to us. Then, if Allah wills, we will be guided.´

              271 He said, ´He says it should be a cow not trained to plough or irrigate the fields — completely sound, without a blemish on it.´

              They said, ´Now you have brought the truth.´ So they sacrificed it — but they almost did not do it.

              (but when they lose an argument, and fail to support with verses from the Quran or give scientific evidence etc)

              https//www.hebrew4christians.com/Clear_Thinking/Informal_Fallacies/Ad_Hominem/againsttheperson.gif

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                They have lied about that which they did not have knowledge of, nor has its explanation come to them. It is also how those before them denied, so see how was the retribution of the wicked! (1039)

                https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17353136_1898177080398874_8207623571579917947_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=e84b25513645d6980abe08fe5c514df4&oe=5D000C7E

                We hear
                We obey

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19598806_1954060404810541_7198812377639760753_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=371d5652560c7537509001ab2f8a8418&oe=5CF98C59

                  Therefore, clear proof for a Messenger. rotfl

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                    jkhan
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                    Therefore, clear proof for a Messenger. rotfl

                    Any way no point asking from you when you don't have knowledge of the heavens and earth.... your mission is to stop cutting trees ... so look after it..

                    595 "Whatever palm-trees you cut down, or left standing upon their roots/stem, that was by God's leave(will), and that He might degrade the ungodly."

                    Or change the will of God by not allowing it to be cut...
                    Take care... handshake

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      It is also how those before them denied,

                      so see how was the retribution of the wicked! ....

                      They have lied about that which they did not have knowledge of, nor has its explanation come to them. It is also how those before them denied, so see how was the retribution of the wicked! (1039)

                      We hear
                      We obey

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        your mission is to stop cutting trees ... so look after it..

                        Exactly... laugh

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          main purpose...

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                          FORMULA

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                            kaltun
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                            Slm MI,

                            are you an computer programmer ?? you write like one

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              nope.. just basic instruction in pseudocode etc for consistency and establishing the legal framework for the Quran..

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                              https//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZGCpa1D7t6s/XBgWAOZ3NyI/AAAAAAAAAJM/PPEt6socrII44Vfqb54cuThm7Pprtd8JQCPcBGAYYCw/s640/firstdraft.jpg

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                              e.g.

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                computer programmer ??

                                TATA

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  IMAN = Say! He, ENERGY, is ONE (CONSISTENT/PROVABLE). (1121)

                                  ~ THE UNLETTERED

                                  ELSE = The Arabs say, "We have iman." Say "You do not have iman." (4914) The Arabs are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know "Islam". (997)

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    If you turn away - know that the only duty of Our Messenger is clear communication/arguments. (592)

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                                    ~ THE UNLETTERED

                                    Those We have given the Book/Ordain recognise it as they recognize their own sons. Yet a group of them knowingly conceal the truth. (2146)

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                                      kaltun
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                                      Slm Mahdi,

                                      i explored the Quran , but the name Mahdi is nowhere showed / mentioned... only in hadiths ( man made stories)

                                      what does the name Mahdi means btw ??

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                                        THE CRADLE...

                                        (ANIMISM <- FOUNDATION)

                                        the Quran about "signs" and "traits".. name can be anything... similarly, an orange or apple call by many names in this world, but the (UNLETTERED) "signs/traits" of an orange or apple is the same...

                                        https//3.bp.blogspot.com/-_BbBCR4-QAI/XBJbrwHBKpI/AAAAAAAAAAw/TYxuGoMydT0mBImuoWsHTmdhfA3A3TPGQCLcBGAs/s1600/Finding%2Bthe%2BTrue%2BImam%2Bal-Mahdi%2B700.jpg

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          2157 By Allah, I will devise some scheme against your idols when your backs are turned."

                                          2158 He broke them in pieces, except for the biggest one, so that they would have it to consult!

                                          2159 They said, "Who has done this to our gods? He is definitely one of the wrongdoers!"

                                          2160 They said, "We heard a young man mentioning them. They call him Ibrahim."

                                          2161 They said, "Bring him before the people's eyes so they can be witnesses."

                                          2162 They said, "Did you do this to our gods, Ibrahim?"

                                          2163 He said, "No, this one, the biggest of them (CONSTITUTION), did it. Ask them if they are able to speak!"

                                          2164 They consulted among themselves and said, "It is you yourselves who are wrongdoers."

                                          2165 But then they relapsed back into their kufr "You know full well these idols cannot talk (CANNOT MAKE ARGUMENT)."

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