Projectiles against the devils ??

jonny_k

This is sooo stupid.

We know that devil is no creature but our own negative side. Its a mental state. How can this mental negativity surf the universe and they also get shoot at with meteors..????? How reasonable can that be ??? O

I would be interested to know alternative ideas. Anyone would like to share?

Thanks

Khi- Salam. We dont know. It's all speculation. Devils r Jinn accroding 2 Quran which may well be paranormal beings who exist in another diomension or some kind of intelligent chameleon reptile. They r made from fire. Among them r righteous n unrighteous
" `Some of us are righteous, and some are less than righteous; we follow various paths.
This is not stupid at all. U need 2 go beyond the material world which is all tht most evolutionists n atheists see. U as a believer shld give tht a thght. Even according 2 modern science this world exists in our brain n is therfore an illusion. We can never reach the original. When i was six yrs old i n my mother we both saw two ccompletely white shining beings, with stzructure like men, but only white n semi see through sitiing on the bench n doing some sort of romance. 1st i thght it was afog or something but as i kept observing them i noticed tht this was not possible. This incidence took place in my birth city Hamelin, Germany. Many ppl in Pakistan have similar accounts like bro Fahad who told me tht his cousins saw exctly the same beings. But i must admit since u havent seen them with ur own eyes it wld be difficult 4 u. Y the hell do we have 2 see everything with our eyes 2 believe it? Y cant we think tht there must be something beyond this universe we feel n see? GOD Bless!

shamsul-arefin

You may find some interesting material here
http//www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch067-068.pdf (note 5a)
http//www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch015.pdf (note 18a)
http//www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch037.pdf (note 10a)
http//www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=507&region=EN (note 1487)
http//www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=904&region=EN (note 2473)

Peace

thanks for the links...they give quite interesting interpretation..

unknownuser

Salaams shamsul,

here is what i make of it , with the dictionary and common sense-

675
And indeed we have made some seem fair the raised/lofty (in) the earth from when they rise and we have made such to drive away /to reject the rebellious/insolent and we have prepared for them(the rebellious) the torment of the blazing fire.

God Bless.

Nural_Amin

peace,

There are devils amongst human and jinn community, the devils are basically the evil ones, imo. Maybe when people have tried to go to space for unrighteous reasons there have been such cases.

Nural

Andya_Primanda

peace,

There are devils amongst human and jinn community, the devils are basically the evil ones, imo. Maybe when people have tried to go to space for unrighteous reasons there have been such cases.

Nural

But Nural, so far there aren't any cases of manned spacecraft being struck by large space objects!

I'm inclined to treat those indications as metaphysical issues.

shamsul-arefin

peace,

There are devils amongst human and jinn community, the devils are basically the evil ones, imo. Maybe when people have tried to go to space for unrighteous reasons there have been such cases.

Nural

well I dont it can be true.......we always see so called shooting star......and I dont think that everytime its chasing some devil...LOL

Someone

Peace,

In outer space, the solar wind sends particules of very high energy that no material known to humans can stop. These particules, not seen with the eyes, go through the body of the astronauts causing damage, this is one of the reasons why humans cannot stay long out in space, even in a spacecraft.

These radiations are normally deviated by the electromagnetic field of the earth, or absorbed by the several layers of the atmosphere, allowing life to take place.

--

shamsul-arefin

Salaams shamsul,

here is what i make of it , with the dictionary and common sense-

675
And indeed we have made some seem fair the raised/lofty (in) the earth from when they rise and we have made such to drive away /to reject the rebellious/insolent and we have prepared for them(the rebellious) the torment of the blazing fire.

God Bless.

bro, can u explain how u came to such understanding....I mean the translation..??

peace

Wakas

peace someone,

I watched a documentary once in which astronaut's helmet was analysed and it contained bore-like holes due to penetrating particles.

I did a quick search on the net and found one reference on a forum

In 1996, space scientists analyzed Shuttle astronauts' helmets udner an electron microscope -- these were astronauts who orbit below the Van Allen radiation belts.

They found that laser-like paths had ploughed through the perspex visors, and through the back of the helmet.

Wakas

shamsul-arefin

peace someone,

I watched a documentary once in which astronaut's helmet was analysed and it contained bore-like holes due to penetrating particles.

I did a quick search on the net and found one reference on a forum

In 1996, space scientists analyzed Shuttle astronauts' helmets udner an electron microscope -- these were astronauts who orbit below the Van Allen radiation belts.

They found that laser-like paths had ploughed through the perspex visors, and through the back of the helmet.

Wakas

my concern is does such theory follow the natural law ? (cause and effect ) ?

Cause such theory gives me the smell of superstitious believe. I think we are facing problem to deny such theory because its in the quran.

Peace

unknownuser

Salaams all,
heres to some extent what i think shamsul requested.

Zayanun -pride or glory of a thing lanes pg 1279.
Zayana ? we made someone fair/seem fair qd pg 241.

Asma?a ? raise /uplift/exalt/elevate/incite lanes p1434.
Dunya ? earth ?qd pg 182.
Sabah-To come to /come upon.qd pg 304
Musbih-one who enters in ,or does anything in the morning.qd p 304

675
And indeed we have made some fair/proud to incite/the raised in the earth from when they rise(or when they come upon) and we have made such to drive away the shayteen/rebellious/insolent and we have prepared for them(the rebellious) the torment of the blazing fire.

or ,

675
And indeed we have made some fair to be incited in the earth when they come upon and we have made such to drive away the shayteen/rebellious and we have prepared for them(the rebellious) the torment of the blazing fire.

Wakas

peace brother shamsul,

My comment was specifically for someone's comment. It was not meant as an interpretation/understanding of the sign.

The following is posted for information purposes only

675 And indeed, We have beautified the sky of the world with shining lamps. And made them objects of futile guesses for the satans. (1517, 376-9, 728 ) And for them We have prepared the doom of blazing flames.

[Astrologers, fortune-tellers, clairvoyants, mystics, and Sufis who, for selfish gains, claim knowledge of the Unseen and the future, are either themselves deceived or deceive others. ?Rajm? also denotes speaking out of conjecture like throwing stones randomly, or shooting in the dark

Wakas

Zlatan

peace brother shamsul,

My comment was specifically for someone's comment. It was not meant as an interpretation/understanding of the sign.

The following is posted for information purposes only

675 And indeed, We have beautified the sky of the world with shining lamps. And made them objects of futile guesses for the satans. (1517, 376-9, 728 ) And for them We have prepared the doom of blazing flames.

[Astrologers, fortune-tellers, clairvoyants, mystics, and Sufis who, for selfish gains, claim knowledge of the Unseen and the future, are either themselves deceived or deceive others. ?Rajm? also denotes speaking out of conjecture like throwing stones randomly, or shooting in the dark

Wakas

peace wakas , all

i have also come across such an understanding.. if i am not mistaken it was in someone`s translation of Quran....whatever, it makes a lot of sense....

best wishes

Zlatan

shamsul-arefin

peace brother shamsul,

My comment was specifically for someone's comment. It was not meant as an interpretation/understanding of the sign.

The following is posted for information purposes only

675 And indeed, We have beautified the sky of the world with shining lamps. And made them objects of futile guesses for the satans. (1517, 376-9, 728 ) And for them We have prepared the doom of blazing flames.

[Astrologers, fortune-tellers, clairvoyants, mystics, and Sufis who, for selfish gains, claim knowledge of the Unseen and the future, are either themselves deceived or deceive others. ?Rajm? also denotes speaking out of conjecture like throwing stones randomly, or shooting in the dark

Wakas

sorry bro...d pls continue.. ops