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Meaning of 54:1

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    simple, it means when the majority or not even a single person will have iman in the Sunnatullah Alone / Pure Natural Belief... and Allah will split/save His Messengers and its followers from all nations..

    While the news had come to them in which there was sufficient warning. A perfect wisdom; but the warnings are of no benefit. (544-5)

    Then when the Messengers (MOON) despaired and thought themselves denied (SPLIT), Our help came to them, and those We willed were saved.(SPLIT) Our violent force (of the sixth mass extinctions) cannot be averted from people who are evildoers/unnaturalist. (12110)

    ~ THE UNLETTERED

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      centi50
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      It only says that the Moon (doer-subject of verb) has become in such state which the verb signifies.

      Salam Mazhar,

      I noticed you translated the verb as cratered and not split. Can you explain to me why it's cratered and not split.

      Thank you

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        Iyyaka
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        simple, it means when the majority or not even a single person will have iman in the Sunnatullah Alone / Pure Natural Belief... and Allah will split/save His Messengers and its followers from all nations..

        While the news had come to them in which there was sufficient warning. A perfect wisdom; but the warnings are of no benefit. (544-5)

        Then when the Messengers (MOON) despaired and thought themselves denied (SPLIT), Our help came to them, and those We willed were saved.(SPLIT) Our violent force (of the sixth mass extinctions) cannot be averted from people who are evildoers/unnaturalist. (12110)

        ~ THE UNLETTERED

        Your modern interpretation is a laudable goal but it remains an interpretation and far from the primary sense.
        Peace

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          Mazhar
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          Salam Mazhar,

          I noticed you translated the verb as cratered and not split. Can you explain to me why it's cratered and not split.

          Thank you

          Split
          verb
          1.
          break or cause to break forcibly into parts, especially into halves or along the grain."

          You will find it as action verb. While Form-VII verb used is stative/state verb.
          Measure VII Passive Meaning - Indicates that the subject received the action of the verb without a doer, or it happened on its own.

          • The mirror broke. (Nobody broke it, it just fell apart on its own.)

          Ibn Faris said

          That it leads to the perception of self creating a rift within a thing.
          Instead of assigning meanings as "asunder", "broken into two pieces" to the Root please consider "cleft", "indentation", Urdu/Persian word and the meanings of the verse might become evident.

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Your modern interpretation is a laudable goal but it remains an interpretation and far from the primary sense.
            Peace

            The unlettered interpretation methodology... Universal Symbolism (Arabic)

            Those who have iman in him and honour him and help him,
            and follow the Light that has been sent down with him,
            they are the ones who are successful. (7157)
            https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/55498716_2312652725617972_6321935329905344512_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=234291c149be8f87162383ae5ecba581&oe=5D46B1E5
            The straight ↑↑ path

            We (Sunnatullah / Natural Order) are responsible for its interpretation. (7519)

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              Iyyaka
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              We (Sunnatullah / Natural Order) are responsible for its interpretation. (7519)

              Think about this => you interpret what is not clear. Or al-quran is clear (Quran means all the quran put together not only words by words).
              and Bayana means not interpretation but clarification in
              As God says in the quran => "...and do not be hasty with the Qur'an before its revelation is completed to you, and say "My Lord, increase my knowledge.".
              The main principle here is Quran is clarified by himself. Principles of meditation, humility, junction

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                now you think about this..

                Think about this => you interpret what is not clear.

                not the issue because

                But as for those with sickness in their hearts, it (the revelation) will add doubt to their doubt, and they die kuffar.

                On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)(9125)

                the animalistic persons are supposed to be blind and not clear about the Quran ... no promise for clarity made by Allah to the Kafirun (of the Sunnatullah) https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49007338_2257256507824261_3168650541106462720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=0579c833e3729140d9836fd3a9814d24&oe=5CE5F517.. not even a single verse.

                5679 None can grasp it (the QURAN) except those PURE (Unmixed between "Nature" and "Unnature&quot

                no?


                Or al-quran is clear (Quran means all the quran put together not only words by words).

                much more than that...


                and Bayana means not interpretation but clarification in

                you only raise the synonym issue


                As God says in the quran => "...and do not be hasty with the Qur'an before its revelation is completed to you, and say "My Lord, increase my knowledge.".
                The main principle here is Quran is clarified by himself. Principles of meditation, humility, junction…

                Then High above all is God, the King, the True. And do not be hasty with the Quran before its inspiration http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=41158 is completed to you, and Say "My Lord, increase my knowledge." (20114)

                So it is not clear with your traditional/conventional interpretation of the Quran, and please take note...

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                Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in another part of it? (285)

                it is cherry picking definition of the Quran... the #Strawman_Muslim https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51446552_2280568462159732_7714549042222465024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=d3620462ec8546f06a48912fc9e71cf1&oe=5CB8C416

                now please define the Quran in the light of the following verses...

                Have iman in the Quran means

                But as for those who have clear evidence from their Lord followed up by a witness from Him — and before it the Book of Musa came as a model and a mercy — such people have iman in it (the Quran). Any faction which rejects it is promised the Fire. Be in no doubt about it. It is the Truth from your Lord. But many people have no iman (in the Quran). (1117)

                The definition of the Quran

                • What is the metaphysics (MATH) of the Quran?

                • What is the epistemology (E) of the Quran?

                • What is the auxiology (ISM) of the Quran?

                8521 Nay! It (is) a Quran Glorious,
                8522 In a Tablet, Guarded.

                5676 This is an oath, if only you knew, that is great.
                5677 It is ( = ) an honorable Qur'an.

                • 891 By the dawn.

                • 892 And the ten nights.

                • 893 And the even and the odd.

                • 894 And the night when it passes.

                • 895 IN THIS is an oath (Quran) for the one with intelligence (Muhammad (One with Validity/Lawfulness Math+E+Ism)... ie. not being "EDUCATED", BRAINWASHED, People of the Book of ... grammar, linguistic, politics, history, culture, religism etc; ie. "In fact, it (the Quran) is a clear revelation in the chests of those who have been given knowledge/enlightened. (2949)" Messenger/Natural Person/The UNLETTERED)

                • 896 Did you not see what your Lord did to 'Aad

                • 897 Irum, with the great columns

                • 898 The one which was like no other in the land

                • 899 And Thamud who carved the rocks in the valley

                • 8910 And Pharaoh with the planks

                • 8911 They all transgressed in the land.

                • 8912 And made much corruption therein.

                • 8913 So your Lord poured upon them a measure of retribution.

                • 8914 Your Lord is ever watchful.

                • 8915 As for man, if his Lord tests him and grants him much, then he says "My Lord has blessed me!"

                • 8916 And if his Lord tests him and gives him little wealth, then he says "My Lord has humiliated me!"

                • 8917 No, you are not generous to the orphan.

                • 8918 And you do not look to feeding the poor.

                • 8919 And you consume others inheritance, all with greed.

                • 8920 And you love money, a love that is excessive.

                • 8921 No, when the Earth is pounded into rubble (climate change and the sixth mass extinctions).

                • 8922 And your Lord comes with the Angels row after row.

                • 8923 And Hell on that Day is brought. On that Day man will remember, but how will the remembrance now help him

                • 8924 He says "I wish I had worked towards my life!"

                • 8925 On that Day, no other will bear his punishment.

                • 8926 Nor will anyone be able to free his bonds.

                • 8927 "O you soul which is peaceful (with the Oath, Ecological Order, Sunnatullah)."

                • 8928 "Return to your Lord happy and content."

                • 8929 "And enter in amongst My servants."

                • 8930 "And enter My Paradise."

                5678 In a protected Book.
                5679 None can grasp it except those PURE (Unmixed between "Nature" and "Unnature", al-masjid al-haraam)
                5680 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
                5681 Are you disregarding this narrative?

                Are you going to ignore the above verses (definition of the Quran)?

                so what is the Quran? please explain...

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                  Layth
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                  Salam to All,

                  The moment drew near, and the moon was split.

                  I don't understand this verse. How was the moon split or what does this verse mean

                  God bless you all

                  Not Split. A more accurate translation is "breached/reached".

                  In Arabic, the word "shaq" is to cut a path to something - the boy "shaq" his way home.

                  I would say this verse was a foretelling of the 1969 moon landing which tells us that the hour is comming closer...

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                    centi50
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                    Not Split. A more accurate translation is "breached/reached".

                    In Arabic, the word "shaq" is to cut a path to something - the boy "shaq" his way home.

                    I would say this verse was a foretelling of the 1969 moon landing which tells us that the hour is comming closer...

                    Salam bro layth,

                    But why is it in the Past tense?

                    God bless

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                      Layth
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                      Salam,

                      Because it?s linking itself to a future event - the nearing of the Hour (if ?a? is happening, then ?b? should have happened before ?a?).

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                        Mazhar
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                        Not Split. A more accurate translation is "breached/reached".

                        In Arabic, the word "shaq" is to cut a path to something - the boy "shaq" his way home.

                        I would say this verse was a foretelling of the 1969 moon landing which tells us that the hour is comming closer...

                        This is the meaning of this sentence

                        But the verb in the Ayah is Form-VII which is always INTRANSITIVE, thereby such meanings are absolutely not the possibility.

                        http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/054.%20Al%20Qamar/54.1a.gif

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