Semitic Rhetoric and ayat 37:103 ("sacrifice" of Ismael)
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I appreciate your efforts (i will read your work) but sorry yout don't look deeply quranic proofs (for the comprehension of this passage - i Don't say for all)
You have already your vision of this passage and you look through this curtain.What proof is needed. You said something mentioned earlier relate to a part coming later. I just pointed out that a dependent sentence ALWAYS relates and links to the previous clause. Always keep this tip in mind that conjunction FA is a cohesive tie for linear coherence and it is starts a dependent clause which is the cause and effect and sequence of the previous clause.
Many fond of finding coherence and Semitic coherence are not even aware as to what are the cohesive ties used in Qur'an.
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I just pointed out that a dependent sentence ALWAYS relates and links to the previous clause.
=> Yes again but not the manner you think ! There is a logic and i give u again
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Thus, the first part can be divided into 2 events
(1) B - Discussion between Abraham and Ismael about this vision
(2) X - Acceptance of this vision
Similarly, the second part can be divided into 2 events
(1) X- Realization of this vision (action)
(2) B' - Discussion of God towards Abraham
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Have a look at the part B' wich is connected with the second sentence of the Center (X) by making reference to ONLY ABRAHAM and introduction to the second part B'. Ismael disappear in part B. -
=> Yes again but not the manner you think ! There is a logic and i give u again
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Thus, the first part can be divided into 2 events
(1) B - Discussion between Abraham and Ismael about this vision
(2) X - Acceptance of this vision
Similarly, the second part can be divided into 2 events
(1) X- Realization of this vision (action)
(2) B' - Discussion of God towards Abraham
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Have a look at the part B' wich is connected with the second sentence of the Center (X) by making reference to ONLY ABRAHAM and introduction to the second part B'. Ismael disappear in part B.What you get out of it?
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What you get out of it?
Look at my first post but when you read the Quran a sentence is above the rest (repeat so many times)
225 And give good news to those who have faith and do good works that they will have estates with rivers flowing beneath them.
There is 2 parts in 225 wich is symmetrical with what you can find in this passage of surah 37
- "Have faith" = in the heart (Static - invisible)
- First, some words come from God = Part B
- Second, You consent = First Part of X
- "So you"...do "Good deeds" = visible - dynamic
- First, you do good doers = Second part of X
- Second, you receive good new from god ("reward"= Part B'
=> All the subject and the story is deal with the "golden sentence of the quran" , in perfect symmetry.
=> For more details about the good doers go to the surah 2.
If your question is about the close relationship between X and B'
and B and X, look at the text colored (begin and end of the text)A -
"My Master, grant me from among the upright."
We gave him the glad tidings of a shrewd boy.B -
When (Arabic falamma) he was old enough to actively help his father,
He said "O my son, I am seeing in a dream that I am sacrificing you.
Take the time to think and tell me how you see this vision.
He said, "O my father, do what is ordained to you.
You will find me, God willing, one of the steadfast.X -
when (Arabic falamma) both of them had abandonned,and HE (Arabic Tallahu) heaped it to the forehead,
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We called him, "O Abraham!
You have realized the vision well.
This is how We reward the beneficent.
This was an explicit test.
We rewarded him with a sacrifice beyond measure
By perpetuated it to the after.
Peace over Abraham.
Thus We reward the beneficent.
HE (Arabic Innahu) was of Our believing servants.A-
We gave him the glad tidings of Isaac,
a prophet among the upright.=> And this group (B - X - B' begins with the condition in phycial/psychological maturity (Arabic sa'ya) to be a potential "believing (part 1) servant (part 2)"
and this group (B - X - B' ends with the diploma of being a "believing (part 1) servant (part 2)"
and inside the begin and the end of this group God explains you How to become a "believing (part 1) servant (part 2)"Hope Brother you can appreciate the logic of God and how the beauty of such a passage can only be provided by God
"God has sent down the best narrative, a Book involving analogy and repetition.. The skins of those who are concerned towards their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is the guidance of God; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whoever God misguides, then none can guide him."
=> I really (physical) understand this sentence.Peace
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Sorry not Farrin work ! Farrin doesn't use Semitic rhetoric. I gave u all ?vidences. I can't do more...
Can you write a small paragraph as to what exactly you perceive as to what is Semitic rhetoric, what is its function, how it simplifies things for human cognitive ability, what is its benefit etc? It will help many of us to understand you.
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Can you write a small paragraph as to what exactly you perceive as to what is Semitic rhetoric, what is its function, how it simplifies things for human cognitive ability, what is its benefit etc? It will help many of us to understand you.
It seems that few works exists in English. I tried to find English documents for you in an another topic. https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610589.0 You will find a document in English which answer your question (first link of this topic)
Raymond Farrin, as Michel Cuypers said, has made "a step" and it is a good effort and i bought his book. But too general...and i need more details about his methodology to know how he extracted parts from surah (That's why i said i think he didn't use principles of Semitic Rhetoric) .
For example, M. Cuypers produced 1 big book for just 1 surah. Therefore this must be continued..I have tried here by SMALL exemples and using colours (surah Baqarah is so big for just one topic!) to show its utility to have a better comprehension of the Quran and avoided "own interpretation".
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It seems that few works exists in English. I tried to find English documents for you in an another topic. https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610589.0 You will find a document in English which answer your question (first link of this topic)
Raymond Farrin, as Michel Cuypers said, has made "a step" and it is a good effort and i bought his book. But too general...and i need more details about his methodology to know how he extracted parts from surah (That's why i said i think he didn't use principles of Semitic Rhetoric) .
For example, M. Cuypers produced 1 big book for just 1 surah. Therefore this must be continued..I have tried here by SMALL exemples and using colours (surah Baqarah is so big for just one topic!) to show its utility to have a better comprehension of the Quran and avoided "own interpretation".
Had Cuypers applied little mind on the point of long held literary tradition of linear coherence in non-fiction discourses, instead of rejecting it straightaway and studied the inbuilt information as to how the text of Qur'an is composed, he may have seen par excellence coherence therein.
Those who tried earlier also did not see the inbuilt keys provided in Qur'an about its structuring and composition. Regarding interpretation, information is built in as to how it is interpreted. Little careful and critical reading is needed.