Inheritance according to Qur?an

Noon_waalqalami

^^^ 411 where is the instruction what to give 2 solitary daughters, no sons?
4176 where is the instruction what to give 3+ solitary sisters, no brothers?

simple questions he repeatedly refuses to answer continues spamming!
exactly same instructions solitary boys/girls, can only have 1 variable!

1/3 parents (fixed 1/6 each), 2/3 two sons (variable 1/3 each)
1/3 parents (fixed 1/6 each), 2/3 two daughters (variable 1/3 each)

the instruction set mixed children ratio fm is given
411 instructed you the god in offspring yours
(case 2 females!) to the male similitude apportion the two females
(case 3+ females!) so if are womenfolk over two females so for them 2/3
(case 1 female!) and if be she one so for her the half (1/2)

this is like teaching preschool children with attention deficit disorder symptoms.

Mazhar

What a stupid resolution?

And if she (your offspring) was one female; then, one-half is allocated for her.

1= 24 equal parts.

According to this sentence of Ayah half went to one female (daughter-Noon calls it walad=child)= 12 parts

Take note; One-sixth of that which he (the deceased son) has left behind is allocated separately for each of his bereaved Father and Mother. This direction is to take effect if solitary child is surviving for him (the deceased).

One sixth to father = 4 parts
one sixth to mother=4 parts.

20 parts went.

However, in case there was child (according to Noon) to grieve for you, thereby, the one-eighth is apportioned for them (bereaved wives) out of that which you have left.

She gets- 3 parts.

Total 23.

To whom will go remaining part 1 and where is its mention dear Noon?

Noon_waalqalami

^^^ clueless rant hijacking the thread with continuous spamming!
411 daughter 1/2 children mixed i.e. son/s present not solitary.
again mazhar simply allocate father daughter?
otherwise stop hijacking the thread!

Mazhar

^^^ clueless rant hijacking the thread with continuous spamming!
411 daughter 1/2 children mixed i.e. son/s present not solitary.
again mazhar simply allocate father daughter?
otherwise stop hijacking the thread!

Sentences of Ayah quoted are simple and specific. It is specifically mentioned if there was one child half will go to child.

Simply answer the post. I know you have gone clueless.

Noon_waalqalami

Sentences of Ayah quoted are simple and specific. It is specifically mentioned if there was one child half will go to child.

no read in context it is a loop gives ratios femalesmale nicely explained in video
Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk

otherwise have 100s of contradictions in distributions e.g. parents daughter?

https//i.postimg.cc/Hn9QCBmQ/inheritance-4-11-and-4-176.jpg

females multi ratio f,m distributions given 1 male

1 daughter 1.0x 11 1,1 1/2, 1/2 ... 411 and if be she one (daughter) so for her the half (1/2)
2 daughters 2.0x 12 2,1 1/4, 1/4, 1/2 ... 411 to the male similitude apportion the two females
3 daughters 1.5x 23 3,1 2/9, 2/9, 2/9, 1/3 ... 411 so if are womenfolk over two (3+) so for them third dual (2/3)
4 daughters 2.0x 12 4,1 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/3
5 daughters 2.5x 25 5,1 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 1/3
6 daughters 3.0x 13 6,1 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/3

females multi ratio f,m distributions given 1 male

1 sister 1.0x 11 1,1 1/2, 1/2 ... 4176 and to him (said person) sister so for her half (1/2)
2 sisters 1.0x 11 2,1 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 ... 4176 so if be dual two females so to them dual the third each (2/3)
3 sisters 2.0x 12 3,1 1/5, 1/5, 1/5, 2/5 ... 4176 so to the male similitude apportion the two females
4 sisters 2.0x 12 4,1 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/3
5 sisters 2.0x 12 5,1 1/7, 1/7, 1/7, 1/7, 1/7, 2/7
6 sisters 2.0x 12 6,1 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/4

above same ratios apply when adding more males
e.g. 1 daughter shares equally with any # of sons
e.g. 1 or 2 sisters share equally any # of brothers

4176 shows the god for you lest thou err ye of and the god in every thing knower

peace!

Mazhar

My dear why are you so evasive. Your plan flops when we come to specifics.

One female gets half of the inheritance. How can you deny the words of Allah and insert your own imagination. There is no mention that with one girl there is one boy also.

Noon_waalqalami

you cannot read in context, attributed daughters to god, cannot allocate anything.
open your own thread show how to allocate all combinations without contradiction.
see small sample below then do same husband, daughters, sons, sisters, brothers.

daughter,son,wife,mother,father

daughter,son,wife,mother
daughter,son,wife,father
daughter,son,mother,father
daughter,wife,mother,father
son,wife,mother,father

daughter,son,wife
daughter,son,mother
daughter,son,father
daughter,wife,mother
daughter,wife,father
daughter,mother,father
son,wife,mother
son,wife,father
son,mother,father
wife,mother,father

daughter,son
daughter,wife
daughter,mother
daughter,father
son,wife
son,mother
son,father
wife,mother
wife,father
mother,father

kalala cases
mother,father,sister,brother

mother,father,sister
mother,father,brother
mother,sister,brother
father,sister,brother

mother,sister
mother,brother
father,sister
father,brother
sister,brother

The_Sardar

Error in my mistake, accidentally posted a quote from Noon.

Mazhar

My dear why are you so evasive. Your plan flops when we come to specifics.

One female gets half of the inheritance. How can you deny the words of Allah and insert your own imagination. There is no mention that with one girl there is one boy also.

It will stupid on any one part if he thinks himself more wise in allocating share than Allah's distribution.

Allah the Exalted has made three situations where allocations are made. The remaining part is left to the discretion of testator.

Allah the Exalted has allocated inalienable shares for the bereaved relatives in the most simple method by categorizing the deceased in three mutually exclusive types

(i) Parents (Biological father and mother) leaving behind one daughter, or two daughters and son, or many daughters, daughter and son/sons, or more than one son. Parents leaving behind only one son are not in this category.

(ii) Deceased leaving behind alive parents, both mother and father; one son and spouse (wife/wives or husband). Or deceased leaving behind only parents (father and mother) and spouse, but without one son to grieve.

(iii) Deceased (man or woman) leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, and no spouse, but leaving one son to grieve him. Or deceased leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, no spouse, no son but leaving behind to grieve him one sister, or two sisters, or sister/s and brothers.

As for your stupid and idiotic distribution of all the inheritance as one unit, you have ran away answering post

1= 24 equal parts.

According to this sentence of Ayah half went to one female (daughter-Noon calls it walad=child)= 12 parts

Take note; One-sixth of that which he (the deceased son) has left behind is allocated separately for each of his bereaved Father and Mother. This direction is to take effect if solitary child is surviving for him (the deceased).

One sixth to father = 4 parts
one sixth to mother=4 parts.

20 parts went.

However, in case there was child (according to Noon) to grieve for you, thereby, the one-eighth is apportioned for them (bereaved wives) out of that which you have left.

She gets- 3 parts.

Total 23.

To whom will go remaining part 1 and where is its mention dear Noon?

Noon_waalqalami

As for your stupid and idiotic distribution of all the inheritance as one unit, you have ran away answering post

you do not know, now you are asking me to allocate parents spouse daughter?
already posted all combinations see video, 411 mixed gender children ratios.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk

(if walad/offspring/child)
1/3 parents (1/6 each), 1/8 wife, 13/24 children (1/3 + 1/8 + 13/24 = 1)
1/3 parents (1/6 each), 1/8 wife, 13/24 son/s
1/3 parents (1/6 each), 1/8 wife, 13/24 daughter/s
1/3 parents (1/6 each), 1/8 wife, 13/24 (13/48 daughter, 13/48 son) 11 ratio

now it is your turn (again!), please distribute parents, spouse, two daughters?

no read in context it is a loop gives ratios femalesmale nicely explained in video
Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk

otherwise have 100s of contradictions in distributions e.g. parents daughter?

females multi ratio f,m distributions given 1 male

1 daughter 1.0x 11 1,1 1/2, 1/2 ... 411 and if be she one (daughter) so for her the half (1/2)
2 daughters 2.0x 12 2,1 1/4, 1/4, 1/2 ... 411 to the male similitude apportion the two females
3 daughters 1.5x 23 3,1 2/9, 2/9, 2/9, 1/3 ... 411 so if are womenfolk over two (3+) so for them third dual (2/3)
4 daughters 2.0x 12 4,1 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/3
5 daughters 2.5x 25 5,1 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 1/3
6 daughters 3.0x 13 6,1 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/3

above same ratios apply when adding more males
e.g. 1 daughter shares equally with any # of sons

4176 shows the god for you lest thou err ye of and the god in every thing knower

peace!

Mazhar

//(if walad/offspring/child)
1/3 parents (1/6 each), 1/8 wife, 13/24 children (1/3 + 1/8 + 13/24 = 1)//

This is your brain child. Where is written 13/24 to children.

If one child it is written in Qur'an one half is for her. One half is not 13/24.

Noon_waalqalami

If one child it is written in Qur'an one half is for her. One half is not 13/24.

cannot teach you basic logic or to read in context; nowhere written what to give son/s variable/calculated!
already explained in video 411 ratios femalesmale THE ONLY non-contradicting reading all combinations!

Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk

if walad 1/8 wife, 7/8 children (son/s, daughter/s, if mixed gender use 411 ratios)
if walad 1/4 husband, 3/4 children (son/s, daughter/s, if mixed gender use 411 ratios)
if walad 1/3 parents (1/6 each), 2/3 children (son/s, daughter/s, if mixed gender use 411 ratios)

if no walad 1/2 husband, 1/2 mother/father (variable/calculated!)
if no walad 1/4 wife, 3/4 parents

already posted all of 1,000+ permutations no contradiction while you only rant and do not know how to allocate anything!
you can disagree with my distributions and agree with critics that the book has hundreds of contradictions on inheritance!
you can continue to translate 6100-101 walad/son erroneously ignorantly attribute daughters thus branded on the snout!

Mazhar

cannot teach you basic logic or to read in context; nowhere written what to give son/s variable/calculated!
already explained in video 411 ratios femalesmale THE ONLY non-contradicting reading all combinations!

Why you overlook - reject straight forward order

Noon_waalqalami

Why you overlook - reject straight forward order

وَإِن كَانَتْ وَٟحِدَةٙ فَلَـهَا ٱلنِّصْفُۚ

again see video 1/2 is in relation to femalesmale ratio
Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk
try to allocate 1 daughter, husband, parents (i.e. no son?)

1/2 daughter
? mother (411)
? father
? husband (412)

Mazhar

again see video 1/2 is in relation to femalesmale ratio
Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk
try to allocate 1 daughter, husband, parents (i.e. no son?)

1/2 daughter
? mother (411)
? father
? husband (412)

What you see in these words? Do you find any male in it? Forget that so called Dr. See with your own eyes.

http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11o.gif

Noon_waalqalami

What you see in these words? Do you find any male in it? Forget that so called Dr. See with your own eyes.

yes in context 411 ratios given 2, 3+, and 1 female
they cannot be solitary no instruction for exactly two!

your erroneous reading has 1,000+ contradictions!
everyone can see you are afraid to allocate anything!
try to allocate simple mother, father, two daughters?

Noon_waalqalami

Peace everyone, want to post a final summary leaving this site need to focus on other things and if anyone needs clarification, they can private message me. Hopefully this helps since inheritance is among the top critique of the book along with wife beating, marriage to underage girls, etc., and although like Thomas Jefferson “I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know” – don’t want to be the only one who understands inheritance which the wording is miraculously precise and forces one to look at each word carefully cross-reference the entire book otherwise math contradicts.

Clearly walad means born or offspring or child
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm Waw-Lam-Dal = to beget, give birth.

See context 6100-101 mentions attributing banina/sons wabanatin/and daughters ... how being to him waladun/offspring?

To translate as son ignorantly implies having daughters e.g. 5319-20 l-lata (the goddess) wal-uza and manat

Whereas everyone correctly translates
2233 not made to suffer mother biwaladiha/in (due to) offspring/child hers
and not father to him biwaladihi/in (due to) offspring/child his

3133 O you the humankind heeds ye of lord yours and fears ye of day of not availed parent about waladihi/offspring his

The reason all translations on this topic are contradictory, inconsistent, parroting mistakes by those 1,300 years ago when they hear the words without thinking wrongly apply e.g. cutting off hands of thieves, marrying underage girls, stoning people, beating wives, one dumb thing after another blindly following those ignorant from the past who could not comprehend anything and when asked simple questions avoid, and distract. The reason the missionaries are trouncing them especially on inheritance verses causing believers to doubt.

This video explains 411 logical nested loop revolves around females male ratios given 2, 3+, and 1 female
Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk

Otherwise hundreds of contradictions in distributions!
Females cannot be solitary, no instruction for exactly two?
Try to allocate mother, father, spouse, and two daughters?
They erroneous translate over two and say it also includes two?
They erroneous translate exactly two say it includes 3+ (4176)?

Note Dr. Shahrour errs in 411 saying that the two females get 2/3 (i.e. 1/3 each) and 1/3 male 11 ratio
This contradicts kalala case 4176 cannot apply as above to the male equal share the two females when 3+
This is not possible and needs to be in the case of 3 females 1/5, 1/5, 1/5, 2/5 male, see distributions below

411 applies only when mixed children while single gender i.e. solitary son/s or daughter/s always variable get the remainder after parents and/or spouses; likewise, any sole heir always gets the whole e.g. parent, spouse, offspring/child (son/s, daughter/s), sibling (brother/s, sister/s), etc. and in "all cases" the shares always equal exactly 1 and never above/under!

412 use for single gender sibling/s (brother/s OR sister/s), 1/3 max with parent/s applies also to 4176 mixed gender siblings.

411 instructed you the god in offspring yours
(case 2 females) to the male similitude apportion the two females
(case 3+ females) so if are womenfolk over two females so for them 2/3
(case 1 female) and if be she one so for her the half (1/2)

children and parents
1 daug son mother fath ratio
1/3 1/3 1/6 1/6 11 1x
5/12 5/12 1/6 ....... 11 1x
5/12 5/12 ....... 1/6 11 1x
1/2 1/2 ....... ....... 11 1x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6

2 daug son mother fath ratio
1/3 1/3 1/6 1/6 12 2x
5/12 5/12 1/6 ....... 12 2x
5/12 5/12 ....... 1/6 12 2x
1/2 1/2 ....... ....... 12 2x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6

3 daug son mother fath ratio
4/9 2/9 1/6 1/6 23 2.5x
5/9 5/18 1/6 ....... 23 2.5x
5/9 5/18 ....... 1/6 23 2.5x
2/3 1/3 ....... ....... 23 2.5x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6

4 daug son mother fath ratio
4/9 2/9 1/6 1/6 12 2x
5/9 5/18 1/6 ....... 12 2x
5/9 5/18 ....... 1/6 12 2x
2/3 1/3 ....... ....... 12 2x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6

5 daug son mother fath ratio
4/9 2/9 1/6 1/6 25 2.5x
5/9 5/18 1/6 ....... 25 2.5x
5/9 5/18 ....... 1/6 25 2.5x
2/3 1/3 ....... ....... 25 2.5x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6

6 daug son mother fath ratio
4/9 2/9 1/6 1/6 13 3x
5/9 5/18 1/6 ....... 13 3x
5/9 5/18 ....... 1/6 13 3x
2/3 1/3 ....... ....... 13 3x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6

wife
1 daug son wife mother fath ratio
13/48 13/48 1/8 1/6 1/6 11 1.0x
17/48 17/48 1/8 1/6 ....... 11 1.0x
17/48 17/48 1/8 ....... 1/6 11 1.0x
7/16 7/16 1/8 ....... ....... 11 1.0x
13/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 1/6
17/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 .......
17/24 ....... 1/8 ....... 1/6
7/8 ....... 1/8 ....... .......
....... 13/24 1/8 1/6 1/6
....... 17/24 1/8 1/6 .......
....... 17/24 1/8 ....... 1/6
....... 7/8 1/8

2 daug son wife mother fath ratio
13/48 13/48 1/8 1/6 1/6 12 2.0x
17/48 17/48 1/8 1/6 ....... 12 2.0x
17/48 17/48 1/8 ....... 1/6 12 2.0x
7/16 7/16 1/8 ....... ....... 12 2.0x
13/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 1/6
17/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 .......
17/24 ....... 1/8 ....... 1/6
7/8 ....... 1/8 ....... .......

3 daug son wife mother fath ratio
13/36 13/72 1/8 1/6 1/6 23 1.5x
17/36 17/72 1/8 1/6 ....... 23 1.5x
17/36 17/72 1/8 ....... 1/6 23 1.5x
7/12 7/24 1/8 ....... ....... 23 1.5x
13/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 1/6
17/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 .......
17/24 ....... 1/8 ....... 1/6
7/8 ....... 1/8

4 daug son wife mother fath ratio
13/36 13/72 1/8 1/6 1/6 12 2.0x
17/36 17/72 1/8 1/6 ....... 12 2.0x
17/36 17/72 1/8 ....... 1/6 12 2.0x
7/12 7/24 1/8 ....... ....... 12 2.0x
13/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 1/6
17/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 .......
17/24 ....... 1/8 ....... 1/6
7/8 ....... 1/8

5 daug son wife mother fath ratio
13/36 13/72 1/8 1/6 1/6 25 2.5x
17/36 17/72 1/8 1/6 ....... 25 2.5x
17/36 17/72 1/8 ....... 1/6 25 2.5x
7/12 7/24 1/8 ....... ....... 25 2.5x
13/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 1/6
17/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 .......
17/24 ....... 1/8 ....... 1/6
7/8 ....... 1/8

6 daug son wife mother fath ratio
13/36 13/72 1/8 1/6 1/6 13 3.0x
17/36 17/72 1/8 1/6 ....... 13 3.0x
17/36 17/72 1/8 ....... 1/6 13 3.0x
7/12 7/24 1/8 ....... ....... 13 3.0x
13/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 1/6
17/24 ....... 1/8 1/6 .......
17/24 ....... 1/8 ....... 1/6
7/8 ....... 1/8 ....... .......

....... ....... ....... wife mother fath
....... ....... ....... 1/4 1/4 1/2
....... ....... ....... 1/4 3/4 .......
....... ....... ....... 1/4 ....... 3/4

husband
1 daug son husb mother fath ratio
5/24 5/24 1/4 1/6 1/6 11 1.0x
7/24 7/24 1/4 1/6 ....... 11 1.0x
7/24 7/24 1/4 ....... 1/6 11 1.0x
3/8 3/8 1/4 ....... ....... 11 1.0x
5/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 1/6
7/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 .......
7/12 ....... 1/4 ....... 1/6
3/4 ....... 1/4 ....... .......
....... 5/12 1/4 1/6 1/6
....... 7/12 1/4 1/6 .......
....... 7/12 1/4 ....... 1/6
....... 3/4 1/4

2 daug son husb mother fath ratio
5/24 5/24 1/4 1/6 1/6 12 2.0x
7/24 7/24 1/4 1/6 ....... 12 2.0x
7/24 7/24 1/4 ....... 1/6 12 2.0x
3/8 3/8 1/4 ....... ....... 12 2.0x
5/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 1/6
7/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 .......
7/12 ....... 1/4 ....... 1/6
3/4 ....... 1/4

3 daug son husb mother fath ratio
5/18 5/36 1/4 1/6 1/6 23 1.5x
7/18 7/36 1/4 1/6 ....... 23 1.5x
7/18 7/36 1/4 ....... 1/6 23 1.5x
1/2 1/4 1/4 ....... ....... 23 1.5x
5/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 1/6
7/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 .......
7/12 ....... 1/4 ....... 1/6
3/4 ....... 1/4

4 daug son husb mother fath ratio
5/18 5/36 1/4 1/6 1/6 12 2.0x
7/18 7/36 1/4 1/6 ....... 12 2.0x
7/18 7/36 1/4 ....... 1/6 12 2.0x
1/2 1/4 1/4 ....... ....... 12 2.0x
5/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 1/6
7/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 .......
7/12 ....... 1/4 ....... 1/6
3/4 ....... 1/4

5 daug son husb mother fath ratio
5/18 5/36 1/4 1/6 1/6 25 2.5x
7/18 7/36 1/4 1/6 ....... 25 2.5x
7/18 7/36 1/4 ....... 1/6 25 2.5x
1/2 1/4 1/4 ....... ....... 25 2.5x
5/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 1/6
7/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 .......
7/12 ....... 1/4 ....... 1/6
3/4 ....... 1/4

6 daug son husb mother fath ratio
5/18 5/36 1/4 1/6 1/6 13 3.0x
7/18 7/36 1/4 1/6 ....... 13 3.0x
7/18 7/36 1/4 ....... 1/6 13 3.0x
1/2 1/4 1/4 ....... ....... 13 3.0x
5/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 1/6
7/12 ....... 1/4 1/6 .......
7/12 ....... 1/4 ....... 1/6
3/4 ....... 1/4 ....... .......

....... ....... ....... husb mother fath
....... ....... ....... 1/2 1/6 1/3
....... ....... ....... 1/2 1/2 .......
....... ....... ....... 1/2 ....... 1/2

Likewise, everyone has the kalala meaning wrong saying father does not inherit together with siblings which clearly contradicts 411 if no walad/offspring/child and parents alive, mother 1/3, if siblings (3+ at least one male) mother gets 1/6, else if no walad/offspring/child and single parent (mother/father) then either becomes variable i.e. gets the remainder. There was always confusion pertaining to kalala case, see below …

The Qur'anic Term Kalala
Studies in Arabic Language and Poetry, Hadit, Tafsir, and Fiqh Notes on the Origins of Islamic Law
Edition 1 Author Agostino Cilard

https//www.amazon.com/The-Quranic-Term-Kalala-Monograph/dp/074861916X

http//rorotoko.com/interview/20090904_powers_david_muhammad_not_father_any_your_men_making_last_prophet/?page=2

Book 011, Number 3937 , Abu Talha reported 'Umar b. al-Khattab (Allah be please..
Abu Talha reported 'Umar b. al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) delivered a sermon on Friday and made a mention of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and he also made a mention of Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) and then said I do not leave behind me any problem more difficult than that of Kalala. I did not refer to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) more repeatedly than in case of the problem of Kalala, and he (the Holy Prophet) never showed more annoyance to me than in regard to this problem, so much so that he struck my chest with his fingers and said 'Umar, does the verse revealed in summer season, at the end of Sura al-Nisa' not suffice you? Hadrat 'Umar (then) said If I live I would give such verdict about (Kalala) that everyone would be able to decide whether he reads the Qur'an or he does not.

Likewise, they did not know which amount to give the sole sister 1/6 (412) or 1/2 (4176) and making up stuff saying 412 refers to uterine siblings/half sisters and brothers from the same mother, different father whereas 4176 are full sisters which in itself is dumb and leads to numerous contradictions then later once algebra was invented they resolved the issue which brought about other confusion when total distribution is greater or less than the whole applied http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra which can be used to wrongly fix any surplus/shortfall not according to the book rather a trick fix to proportionately increase/decrease amounts by a common denominator called al-awl, see the supposed example case during the caliphate of Umar ibn al-Khattab below...

husband, mother, 3 uterine brothers, 2 full brothers
1/2 husband + 1/6 mother + 1/3 uterine brothers (412) = 0 full brothers (4176)

Umar ruled that the 2 full brothers got nothing! There was nothing remaining to share! The full brothers argued that even if their father was a donkey or a stone cast into the sea and they had no paternal relationship, they still had the same and equal relationship with the deceased as the uterine brothers through the same mother. Umar reconsidered his ruling and allowed the full brothers to inherit equally with the uterine brothers thus 1/2 husband + 1/6 mother + 1/3 brothers = 1

kalala cases no spouse and/or offspring/child
if parents alive, mother 1/3, father variable (411)
if parents alive, 3+ siblings (at least 1 male) mother 1/6, father variable (411)
if only single parent (mother/father) each is variable else the math contradicts.

mother fath 1 sis 1 bro ratio
2/9 4/9 1/6 1/6 11 1x
2/3 ....... 1/6 1/6 11 1x
....... 2/3 1/6 1/6 11 1x
....... ....... 1/2 1/2 11 1x
5/18 5/9 ....... 1/6
5/18 5/9 1/6 .......
1/3 2/3 ....... .......
5/6 ....... ....... 1/6
5/6 ....... 1/6 .......
....... 5/6 ....... 1/6
....... 5/6 1/6

mother fath 2 sis 1 bro ratio
1/9 5/9 2/9 1/9 11 1x
2/3 ....... 2/9 1/9 11 1x
....... 2/3 2/9 1/9 11 1x
....... ....... 2/3 1/3 11 1x
2/9 4/9 1/3
2/3 ....... 1/3
....... 2/3 1/3

mother fath 3 sis 1 bro ratio
1/9 5/9 1/5 2/15 12 2x
2/3 ....... 1/5 2/15 12 2x
....... 2/3 1/5 2/15 12 2x
....... ....... 3/5 2/5 12 2x
1/9 5/9 1/3
2/3 ....... 1/3
....... 2/3 1/3

mother fath 4 sis 1 bro ratio
....... 2/3 2/9 1/9 12 2x
1/9 5/9 2/9 1/9 12 2x
2/3 ....... 2/9 1/9 12 2x
....... ....... 2/3 1/3 12 2x
1/9 5/9 1/3
....... 2/3 1/3
2/3 ....... 1/3

mother fath 5 sis 1 bro ratio
....... 2/3 5/21 2/21 12 2x
1/9 5/9 5/21 2/21 12 2x
2/3 ....... 5/21 2/21 12 2x
....... ....... 5/7 2/7 12 2x
1/9 5/9 1/3
....... 2/3 1/3
2/3 ....... 1/3

mother fath 6 sis 1 bro ratio
....... 2/3 1/4 1/12 12 2x
1/9 5/9 1/4 1/12 12 2x
2/3 ....... 1/4 1/12 12 2x
....... ....... 3/4 1/4 12 2x
1/9 5/9 1/3
....... 2/3 1/3
2/3 ....... 1/3

https//i.postimg.cc/Hn9QCBmQ/inheritance-4-11-and-4-176.jpg

females ratio f,m distributions given 1 male

1 daughter 1.0x 11 1,1 1/2, 1/2 ... 411 and if be she one (daughter) so for her the half (1/2)
2 daughters 2.0x 12 2,1 1/4, 1/4, 1/2 ... 411 to the male similitude apportion the two females
3 daughters 1.5x 23 3,1 2/9, 2/9, 2/9, 1/3 ... 411 so if are womenfolk over two (3+) so for them third dual (2/3)
4 daughters 2.0x 12 4,1 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/3
5 daughters 2.5x 25 5,1 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 2/15, 1/3
6 daughters 3.0x 13 6,1 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/9, 1/3

females ratio f,m distributions given 1 male

1 sister 1.0x 11 1,1 1/2, 1/2 ... 4176 and to him (said person) sister so for her half (1/2)
2 sisters 1.0x 11 2,1 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 ... 4176 so if be dual two females so to them dual the third each (2/3)
3 sisters 2.0x 12 3,1 1/5, 1/5, 1/5, 2/5 ... 4176 so to the male similitude apportion the two females
4 sisters 2.0x 12 4,1 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/6, 1/3
5 sisters 2.0x 12 5,1 1/7, 1/7, 1/7, 1/7, 1/7, 2/7
6 sisters 2.0x 12 6,1 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8, 1/4

The above same ratios apply adding more males
e.g. 1 daughter shares equally with any # of sons
e.g. 1 or 2 sisters share equally any # of brothers

Cairo, National Library qaf 47 one of oldest manuscripts dated 606-652 CE (95.4%)
https//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/4/vers/12/handschrift/73
ch4v11-12 translation https//i.postimg.cc/CxFGJC3s/ch4v11-15.jpg

411 instructed you the god in awladikum/offspring/children yours to the male similitude apportion the two females so if are (f/p) womenfolk fawqa/over two females (i.e. 3+) so for them (f/p) third dual (1/3 x 2 = 2/3) what left and if be she one (daughter) so for her the half (1/2) and to parents two his/said person to each one of them dual the sixth (1/6) from what left if be for him/said person waladun/offspring/child so if not beeth for him/said person waladun/offspring/child and inherit him/said person parents dual his/said person (i.e. parents alive) so to mother his/said person the third (1/3) so if be for him/said person siblings (3+ at least one male) so to mother his/said person the sixth (1/6) from after instruction/behest instructed in it or dept parents yours and children yours not thou knowing which of them nearer to you benefit of an obligation from the god indeed the god be knower of wisdom of

412 and for you half (1/2) what left spouses yours if not beeth for them (f/p) waladun/offspring/child so if be for them waladun/offspring/child so for you the fourth (1/4) from what left they (f/p) from after instruction/behest instructed they (f/p) in it or dept and for them the fourth (1/4) from what left you if not beeth for you waladun/offspring/child so if be for you waladun/offspring/child so to them the eight (1/ from what left you from after instruction/behest thou making in it or dept and if be rajulun/man inherited kalalatan (single gender sibling heir no spouse and/or no child) or imra-atun/woman and to him/said person brother or sister so to each one of them dual the sixth (1/6) so if be they of more from such so they associates of in the third (1/3) from after instruction/behest instructed in it or dept other than harmful instruction from the god and the god knower tolerant

Berlin, State Library ms.or.fol. 4313 (same manuscript) dated 606-652 CE (95.4%)
https//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/4/vers/176/handschrift/73
ch4v176 translation https//i.postimg.cc/SxwtPMV1/ch4v172-ch5v2.jpg

4176 they seeking decision your say the god gives ruling you in l-kalalati (mixed gender siblings no spouse and/or no child) if individual perished not is for him/said person waladun/offspring/child and to him sister so for her half (1/2) what left and he inherited her if not beeth for her waladun/offspring/child so if be dual two females (i.e. if exactly two!) so to them dual the third dual each (1/3 + 1/3 = 2/3) from what left and if be they of ikhwatan/siblings rijalan/menfolk of wanisaan/and womenfolk (3+) so to the male similitude apportion the two females shows the god for you lest thou err ye of and the god in every thing knower

peace and all the best!

huruf

It is vary meritorious, detailed and thorough work you have done on thsi question for a long time, as far as I can remember.

May be, since there is very little that people, legally, can do about it, it is not getting as much attention as it hsould, outside the most glaring or shocking unfairness classically admitted.

However it is still necessary and useful.
I think there is just one detail in which I do not agree with you, but that is not important and no reason either not to acknowledge the great job you, have accomplished. Thank you for posting it so well ordered and clearly.

Salaam

Mazhar

What you see in these words? Do you find any male in it? Forget that so called Dr. See with your own eyes.

http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11o.gif

Qur'an says there are people who deny some part of the Book. Noon is patently one of them when he says this

yes in context 411 ratios given 2, 3+, and 1 female
they cannot be solitary no instruction for exactly two!

http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.061/239.%20Wahid%20Waw%20He%20Daal/4.gif Not to accept that it ONLY means Solitary female is to make oneself an idiot and try misleading others.

Let some one else come to his help and resolve about this Ayah. I have but to rebut whatever non-sense gets posted on the Forum for those visitors who do know Arabic.

Noon_waalqalami

It is vary meritorious, detailed and thorough work you have done on thsi question for a long time, as far as I can remember.

May be, since there is very little that people, legally, can do about it, it is not getting as much attention as it hsould, outside the most glaring or shocking unfairness classically admitted.

However it is still necessary and useful.
I think there is just one detail in which I do not agree with you, but that is not important and no reason either not to acknowledge the great job you, have accomplished. Thank you for posting it so well ordered and clearly.

Salaam

Peace huruf, thank you it means a lot! Prior posts 1, 2, 3+ females to 1 male ratios.
Here's a test anyone who answers all six correctly – I’ll send a gift card $600 prize!

mother, wife, 2 daughters (simple)
parents, wife, 2 daughters, 2 sons (not difficult)
parents, wife, 5 daughters, 2 sons (advanced)
mother, 2 sisters, 1 brother (simple)
mother, 5 sisters, 2 brothers (includes uterine, full, father uncertain)
parents, 8 sisters, 3 brothers (forward-thinking mastered the subject)