Has anyone on here ever met another quran only believer in real life
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Peace Jafar.
Your post is just dodging the issue. Who authored Qoran?
If you are not prepared to bring evidence or accept you are not sure and you are making an assumption ,then your replies have no real meaning .I've given you straight and plain answer... it was written by Human just like any other books, stone tablets, scriptures, scrolls, ebook, software etc..
But again like I said you missed out the point..Perhaps I need to add more points to make it clear.
- I DON'T CARE what is the true color of Krishna, the true nature of Jesus, who actually wrote the Torah, who actually wrote the Veda and who actually wrote the Quran. It's not important at all. Only the cult member of respective idols that do care about such menial stuff.
- It is perfectly fine if you believe the Veda was written by Gods, Harry Potter was written by God, Babylonian law was written by Marduk, Torah was written by YHVH, Quran was written by Allah, Book Of The Dead was written by Osiris, Nazca lines was written by Alien. It is your rights to believe in anything that you want and so does everyone's rights to believe in whatever they want. I have no interest in changing the way you believe in things.
- Again I repeat Everyone have direct access to the true God, why not try asking him for whatever issues that you (or anyone else) might have. And curiosity is NOT BAD / EVIL. Every human was born with such traits and nothing wrong with that. Always be curious and always ask questions thus you will receive more answers / revelation. The holy books might shunned such attitude as it was actually written to control people and as a mean to ensure obedience towards cult members.
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Peace Jafar.
You not caring does not make your statement about Qoran true.
At least take on board that you are making an assumption without proper study/research and evidence .You are advising this"Always be curious and always ask questions"? Are you doing this properly to find out about Qoran?
Its Author saysThis is a revelation from the Lord of the universe The Honest Spirit (Gabriel) came down with it.
To reveal it into your heart, that you may be one of the warners.In a perfect Arabic tongue.
It has been prophesied in the books of previous generations.Is it not a sufficient sign for them that it was known to the scholars among the Children of Israel?
If we revealed this to people who do not know Arabic.
And had him recite it (in Arabic), they could not possibly believe in it.We thus render it (like a foreign language) in the hearts of the guilty.
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Or is it in a foreign language to you brother Jafar?
GOD bless you.
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Brother Imran.
Your version that you have studied/looked at(Any of your choice). The Arabic text version of course.
GOD bless you.
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peace GL,
you dodged the QUESTION rotfl
did u see that video and "shame shame" of EDIP ?
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This topic has wound up strangely.. feels like a mutazila and ashari argument of Quran and its createdness and uncreatedness.
Jafar. Good Logic, people can believe in God without religion but I also think religion helps people remember God or even help them make a connection with God. We follow a path we think is ?truest? but no matter what belief we hold we have our own bias and limitations. What we thought was true or right 10-20 years ago may not be the same thought today.
As for the original post yes I met people online in person who follow the Quranic approach. It was always during the day at a public place shopping centre, cafe and university. Sometimes with a friend or alone or with a group of others.
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Peace Imran.
Who authored the Qoran that the prophet received(the version you believe he received, if you do. )?Is this not a clear question?
Peace Layth and Sarah
Both your posts are blank?.GOD bless you all.
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I still cannot see both Layth s and earlier Sarah s posts?
There is just blank space..
They are the only three blank posts in the whole thread?
GOD bless .
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Salam/Peace brother Good Logic, click on Quote on the blank spaces, you will see the missing text and the cause is black diamond shaped with question marks. It happened when the forum updated the place last year.
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i can also see the posts.
Gl dodged the question second time do one more it will b a hatrick rotfl
BTW i ll help u brother i wil copy the posts of sarah and layth becoz u can see my posts and second reason both said beautiful words as always i love sharing their words for you look how helpful i am lol
LAYTH
Peace.I had a look at he video. To use the argument of 19 to prove God?s existence to Atheists seems to be quite a circular argument to make. Best to leave the rejectors alone until they find their own way (if ever).
SARAH
This topic has wound up strangely.. feels like a mutazila and ashari argument of Quran and its createdness and uncreatedness.Jafar. Good Logic, people can believe in God without religion but I also think religion helps people remember God or even help them make a connection with God. We follow a path we think is ?truest? but no matter what belief we hold we have our own bias and limitations. What we thought was true or right 10-20 years ago may not be the same thought today.
As for the original post yes I met people online in person who follow the Quranic approach. It was always during the day at a public place shopping centre, cafe and university. Sometimes with a friend or alone or with a group of others.
bravo for both of those brilliant FREE minds
GL just wonder why u blind to those posts may b hint from.God lol jk
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i can also see the posts.
Gl dodged the question second time do one more it will b a hatrick rotfl
BTW i ll help u brother i wil copy the posts of sarah and layth becoz u can see my posts and second reason both said beautiful words as always i love sharing their words for you look how helpful i am lol
LAYTH
Peace.I had a look at he video. To use the argument of 19 to prove God�s existence to Atheists seems to be quite a circular argument to make. Best to leave the rejectors alone until they find their own way (if ever).
SARAH
This topic has wound up strangely.. feels like a mutazila and ashari argument of Quran and its createdness and uncreatedness.Jafar. Good Logic, people can believe in God without religion but I also think religion helps people remember God or even help them make a connection with God. We follow a path we think is �truest� but no matter what belief we hold we have our own bias and limitations. What we thought was true or right 10-20 years ago may not be the same thought today.
As for the original post yes I met people online in person who follow the Quranic approach. It was always during the day at a public place shopping centre, cafe and university. Sometimes with a friend or alone or with a group of others.
bravo for both of those brilliant FREE minds
GL just wonder why u blind to those posts may b hint from.God lol jk
This is explicitly written in the Divine Discourse. The First thing the Author of Qur'an argues with the reader is on this subject.
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The Classification of Human beings with reference to the Concept of God as mentioned in Divine Discourse are as follows
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Atheists; those who consider and believe not in the existence of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/9.gif God;
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Monotheists; those who believe in the existence of solitary http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/9.gif i.e. http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/00002.%20Allah/Ilaha%20wahid.gif ; The Solitary God, the One Who maintains Singularity;
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Dualists (Dualism-Zoroaster); those who believe in the existence of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/11.gif two Gods;
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Trinity; those who believe in the concept of Trinity - three Gods;
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Those who say Easa (alahissalam) son of Maryam the truthful is but Allah (the God)
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Polytheists; those who believe in the existence of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/6.gif many Gods.
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Those who adopt self-indulgences—desire - vested interest - passion - hypothetical conjectures as his iela'aha god.
Likewise there are 7 apartments of Hell Prison allocated each for a separate identity.
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peace brother mazhar,
there is another group who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God = AGNOSTIC
they are different than atheist who totally reject GOD.also there are sub-groups like some branches of shia islam consider ali as God
some early groups who consider sun/moon/sirius as a GOD..
some believe force of nature is GOD...
some tribal groups have their own God like maya civilisation
movie Apocalypto is interesting to watch about the traditions what they have about their GOD/s.
even some of them believe TIME as god.. -
Likewise there are 7 apartments of Hell Prison allocated each for a separate identity.
Judge not and you shall not be judged..
By the standards that you judged others, the same standards will be judged upon you.As clearly evidenced by this thread alone, anyone can fall into sectarianism and idolatry.
It's majority influenced by their surroundings.
Surrounding tradition, people, culture, family, friends.
Only very very few will be able to break through...It's very easy for human to accuse others of 'idolatry' and it's very hard for them to see how themselves are actually also guilty by the same charge. There is a reason for it, it is caused by how human brain works.
And here's the catch ALL of it happened in accordance to God's will and plan.
Thus I see it as 'normal' and it's ridiculous that God will be angry because of it, let alone inflicted terrible torture in prison.. it's totally illogical.As similitude this is the same as saying that the director of the movie / screenplay will punish the actor who played the villain role. The actor is just executing the script that was designed by the director. The audience however might think that the actor is truly evil because of his role in the play designed by the director.
Here's again I repeat the important message
You and everyone else have direct access to God, whatever label that you label yourselves or whatever label that others put upon you. Reach out to Him, don't be afraid, the true God is not a mean God who love to torture. He knows your condition and needs much better than yourselves. His love for you and everything else is unconditional love.there is another group who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God = AGNOSTIC
they are different than atheist who totally reject GOD.also there are sub-groups like some branches of shia islam consider ali as God
some early groups who consider sun/moon/sirius as a GOD..
some believe force of nature is GOD...
some tribal groups have their own God like maya civilisation
movie Apocalypto is interesting to watch about the traditions what they have about their GOD/s.
even some of them believe TIME as god..Yes and there are also others who idolize holy books as the only mean to reach God.. but all of it happened in accordance to God's plan.
Zoom out... breakthrough from sectarian mindset.. see things from higher perspective.
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Peace Imran.
I have read all the posts . I get what they say, what you say and what Jafar says..My question to you is still standing . Who do you think authored Qoran(Any version you believe it is Qoran)?
Jafar gave us his view that human/s have written/copied/authored Qoran. I asked him to elaborate on/show his evidence.You have not given an answer.. That is fine if you clarify you do not want to say!.
GOD bless you
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peace brother mazhar,
there is another group who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God = AGNOSTIC
they are different than atheist who totally reject GOD.also there are sub-groups like some branches of shia islam consider ali as God
some early groups who consider sun/moon/sirius as a GOD..
some believe force of nature is GOD...
some tribal groups have their own God like maya civilisation
movie Apocalypto is interesting to watch about the traditions what they have about their GOD/s.
even some of them believe TIME as god..Salam,,
I obtained information only from Qur'an.
