Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. Community Needs
  3. Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan.
  4. 7th full moon after the spring equinox - 2017 5th October

7th full moon after the spring equinox - 2017 5th October

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan.
19 Posts 5 Posters 522 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • N Offline
    N Offline
    noble
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Salam

    This is how I am settled for Ramadhan once & for all until I die -

    The fast starts on the 7th full moon after the Spring equinox.

    This year the 7th full moon after the spring equinox is 5th October 2017.

    So I will fast 3 to 10 days starting the 6th October 2017.

    The Quran was revealed on the equinox day with full moon on 20 September 617
    at the night between 20/09/617 & 21/09/617.

    Check here - http//astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases0601.html

    Twitter Link
    https//twitter.com/meNabster/status/913430927262527489

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • R Offline
      R Offline
      reel
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Are you abstaining from food and drink?

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • N Offline
        N Offline
        noble
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Are you abstaining from food and drink?

        Quranic fast, yes.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • N Offline
          N Offline
          noble
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          2019 Ramadan Luni-Solar

          Count seven moons after the spring equinox...

          October 13th 2019 Harvest Moon 0508 PM

          So will be fasting for three days at least - 14, 15 & 16 October 2019, Allah willing )

          https//www.farmersalmanac.com/full-moon-dates-and-times

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • A Offline
            A Offline
            Abaddon
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Oh, i thought its on this moon-cycle. Thank you for the info brother!

            Peace!

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • A Offline
              A Offline
              Abaddon
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              [The next full moon will occur on September 14th, 2019 at 1233 AM ET and will be a Full Harvest Moon.

              For people in the Central, Mountain, or Pacific time zones, this particular Harvest Moon will fall on Friday the 13th.

              Its from that link you posted. Through my observation it should be exact also. Last year was a 13 moon cycle year in the Metonic-Cycle of the Luni-Solar calendar - so it should be this month while the sun is located in Leo and the moon in Capricorn. But we will see it anyway )

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • N Offline
                N Offline
                noble
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Its from that link you posted. Through my observation it should be exact also. Last year was a 13 moon cycle year in the Metonic-Cycle of the Luni-Solar calendar - so it should be this month while the sun is located in Leo and the moon in Capricorn. But we will see it anyway

                It's border line by one day because the full moon in March 2019 falls one day before the spring equinox, so cannot be counted just because of one day, so not september which is the sixth full moon, but rather October this year... I made the mistake, then corrected it

                Ref - https//www.farmersalmanac.com/full-moon-dates-and-times
                but this contradicts it with full moon stated as 21 March 2019
                so depends where you are geographically as border line...
                http//astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases2001.html

                I made my choice to fast in October though, relying on https//www.farmersalmanac.com/full-moon-dates-and-times instead of http//astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases2001.html

                OR

                I will fast both, no harm in it fasting three days rejuvenates the system & detoxes the body.

                Actually the March full moon in UK, London where I live is
                Mar 21 142 am

                Will we split hair on what after exactly means? inclusive or exclusive of the day of the spring equinox?

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • A Offline
                  A Offline
                  Abaddon
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  unnecessarily, brother! through my research and astrological observation i came to the conclusion that the moon of ramadhan is during the autumnal equinox - to be exactly when the moon is located in aquarius (not capricorn, i made a mistake) and the sun in leo. it can be seen because the moon is especially bright during the autumnal equinox. day and night become equal again as spring and autumn are representing divine balance between the 2 extremes (winter and summer). just look at the moon next 2-5 days. in the qur'an it is also stated that if you witness the moon of ramadhan u shall fast - its clearly visible.

                  i also fast during other days - but during ramdhan doing spiritual practices like prayer and meditation is especially recommenden additionally with the abstinence from consumables. fasting is also extremely healthy for our psyche. theres only benefit from it, i agree )

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • N Offline
                    N Offline
                    noble
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    I asked Allah's guidance, & I feel after autumn equinox day means exclusive i.e. discounting the day itself, so it is October for me -

                    October 13th 2019 Harvest Moon 0508 PM

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • J Offline
                      J Offline
                      Jane
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      The Harvest Moon is tonight (in Europe at least). The Harvest moon can be identified by its significantly earlier rising time after sunset compared to other moons. It's now.

                      If Ramadan means the rain after summer heat then that could be anytime. Unless there's some meteorological evidence that it always comes around the 7th full moon after the spring equinox in the region where Muhammad lived (Petra, Jordan)??

                      If Ramadan means the Harvest Moon then it's now. If Shahr means a full moon phase of 3 days then that makes Ramadan 2019 the 12th, 13th and 14th September.

                      I missed yesterday so am aiming for today, Saturday and Sunday instead, God-willing.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • J Offline
                        J Offline
                        Jane
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Blessed Ramadan everyone.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • The_SardarT Offline
                          The_SardarT Offline
                          The_Sardar
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          How should i fast? 8 hours right?

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • N Offline
                            N Offline
                            noble
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            How should i fast? 8 hours right?

                            From sunrise to sunset.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • N Offline
                              N Offline
                              noble
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              The Harvest Moon is tonight (in Europe at least). The Harvest moon can be identified by its significantly earlier rising time after sunset compared to other moons. It's now.

                              If Ramadan means the rain after summer heat then that could be anytime. Unless there's some meteorological evidence that it always comes around the 7th full moon after the spring equinox in the region where Muhammad lived (Petra, Jordan)??

                              If Ramadan means the Harvest Moon then it's now. If Shahr means a full moon phase of 3 days then that makes Ramadan 2019 the 12th, 13th and 14th September.

                              I missed yesterday so am aiming for today, Saturday and Sunday instead, God-willing.

                              I will be fasting in October full moon, I discount the full moon falling on equinox day, count next 7 full moons which falls on October 13th 2019 0508 PM - so not necessarily harvest moond - besides in the 600's AD, they did not have our technological instruments, they just counted full moons, or maybe you are right - but I made my choice.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • The_SardarT Offline
                                The_SardarT Offline
                                The_Sardar
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                From sunrise to sunset.

                                It varies in months and time, correct me if i am wrong, sunrise appears in 8.00 and sunset is somewhere in 16.00? Again correct me if i am wrong.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • A Offline
                                  A Offline
                                  Abaddon
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Blessed Ramadan everyone.

                                  Thank you, blessed ramadhan to you too and to everyone else!

                                  Annoyingly i got a flu/probably infected and cant fast right now... need to drink a lot. I didn't get sick for like 2 years and especially right now i have to become sick.... so annoying

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • J Offline
                                    J Offline
                                    Jane
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Quincy - dry fasting when you have an infection is actually the best way to beat it.

                                    Nabster - I'm going with what is the most likely equivalent to Shahr Ramadan, from all the discussions it appears to be the 3-day full moon phase CLOSEST to the autumn equinox. It's only called the Harvest Moon in Europe obviously Muhammad's people didn't call it that...and no technological wizardry is needed, the earlier rising times after sunset as well as the increased brightness compared to other moons identify it.

                                    I'm not following where you're getting the '7th full moon after the spring equinox' measurement from? Please explain...

                                    Sardar - As I understand it to fast a day it has to be from first light to last light. Sunrise to Sunset is not good enough. I am taking it to be the beginning of civil dawn til the end of civil dusk. Today this is from 609am til 2005pm where I live in Wales, UK.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • N Offline
                                      N Offline
                                      noble
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      It was a brother (noshirk) who suggested it in his analysis - I also found it more convenient as I just need to count the seventh full moon from spring equinox.

                                      You might be probably right, it sounds more logical, but what is your rationale?

                                      I will change my fasting period from next year, as for this year I will just fast 3 days to compensate the ones I missed...

                                      Thanks for snapping me out from a blind spot, I just trusted the analysis from the brother who suggested it here
                                      https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609543.0

                                      & here

                                      https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604822.0

                                      I will also need to update with your suggestion in my tweeter feeds...

                                      Quincy - dry fasting when you have an infection is actually the best way to beat it.

                                      Nabster - I'm going with what is the most likely equivalent to Shahr Ramadan, from all the discussions it appears to be the 3-day full moon phase CLOSEST to the autumn equinox. It's only called the Harvest Moon in Europe obviously Muhammad's people didn't call it that...and no technological wizardry is needed, the earlier rising times after sunset as well as the increased brightness compared to other moons identify it.

                                      I'm not following where you're getting the '7th full moon after the spring equinox' measurement from? Please explain...

                                      Sardar - As I understand it to fast a day it has to be from first light to last light. Sunrise to Sunset is not good enough. I am taking it to be the beginning of civil dawn til the end of civil dusk. Today this is from 609am til 2005pm where I live in Wales, UK.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • N Offline
                                        N Offline
                                        noble
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        Luni-Solar Ramadan 2020 is from night of 1st October 2020 -

                                        7th full moon after the Spring Equinox (Harvest Moon) -

                                        not feeling great, but will fast three days 2nd, 3rd & 4th October unless God wills otherwise...
                                        @meNabster

                                        https//twitter.com/inabster/status/1311377369790382081

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        Reply
                                        • Reply as topic
                                        Log in to reply
                                        • Oldest to Newest
                                        • Newest to Oldest
                                        • Most Votes


                                        • Login

                                        • Don't have an account? Register

                                        • Login or register to search.
                                        • First post
                                          Last post
                                        0
                                        • Categories
                                        • Recent
                                        • Users